(07-09-2018 08:35 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(07-09-2018 08:33 AM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  I don't expect Memphis to win the conference this year but 8th???

Honestly, a Gregg Marshall coached team finishing 7th is a bigger head scratcher to me. I know they lost a lot but that guy will find a way to get 10 conference wins minimum.

I don't think you are going to see the standings structured the way they have been the past couple years with a couple of teams with gaudy conference records. I expect a lot of teams in the 9-12 win range. It's genuinely possible that the team in 6th or 7th has 9 or so conference wins. A lot of bunched up teams with a couple doormats that will pad win totals is my guess.

(07-09-2018 09:45 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Last year’s prediction from Rothstein:

1. WSU
2. Cincinnati
3. UCF
4. SMU
5. UConn
6. Temple
7. Houston
8. Tulsa
9. Memphis
10. Tulane
11. ECU
12. USF

Actual per AAC website:
1. Cincy
2. WSU
3.Houston
4. Tulsa
5. Memphis
6. UCF
7. Temple
8. UConn
9. SMU
10. Tulane
11. ECU
12. USF
10. Tulane
11. ECU
12. USF

To be fair to him, UCF and SMU's seasons were pretty significantly affected by injuries. Those teams were complete shells most of the year.

Remind me who finished 2nd in conference last season, I can’t remember?

And where does Rothstein have WSU’s second team finishing? Must have been an oversight because he didn’t include them.

(07-09-2018 01:28 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  Remind me who finished 2nd in conference last season, I can’t remember?

And where does Rothstein have WSU’s second team finishing? Must have been an oversight because he didn’t include them.

You always seem to forget things. That’s always the substance of your posts.

You should get that checked out.

(07-09-2018 01:05 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(07-09-2018 09:45 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Last year’s prediction from Rothstein:

1. WSU
2. Cincinnati
3. UCF
4. SMU
5. UConn
6. Temple
7. Houston
8. Tulsa
9. Memphis
10. Tulane
11. ECU
12. USF

Actual per AAC website:
1. Cincy
2. WSU
3.Houston
4. Tulsa
5. Memphis
6. UCF
7. Temple
8. UConn
9. SMU
10. Tulane
11. ECU
12. USF

To be fair to him, UCF and SMU's seasons were pretty significantly affected by injuries. Those teams were complete shells most of the year.

I agree. It was a major reason Memphis moved up. However, he was materially wrong about UConn.

to be fair, at the time of his ranking, alterique gilbert was healthy (mcdonalds all-american, 2x time (potentially 3) preseason freshmen of the year ) and most thought sid wilson would get a waiver since he was only at st johns a few weeks

Jon is asleep at the wheel on Laquincy Rideau. among the best on-ball defenders in the country in '16-'17, if not the best. not sure what tarin smith has done to ever be labeled an impact transfer. The rest I mostly agree with, well done.

(07-09-2018 02:10 PM)Doglando Wrote:  Jon is asleep at the wheel on Laquincy Rideau. among the best on-ball defenders in the country in '16-'17, if not the best. not sure what tarin smith has done to ever be labeled an impact transfer. The rest I mostly agree with, well done.

(07-09-2018 02:58 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-09-2018 02:10 PM)Doglando Wrote:  Jon is asleep at the wheel on Laquincy Rideau. among the best on-ball defenders in the country in '16-'17, if not the best. not sure what tarin smith has done to ever be labeled an impact transfer. The rest I mostly agree with, well done.

So he wasnt a starter on a team that finished 200+ in the country. you got me

(07-09-2018 03:39 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(07-09-2018 02:58 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-09-2018 02:10 PM)Doglando Wrote:  Jon is asleep at the wheel on Laquincy Rideau. among the best on-ball defenders in the country in '16-'17, if not the best. not sure what tarin smith has done to ever be labeled an impact transfer. The rest I mostly agree with, well done.

So he wasnt a starter on a team that finished 200+ in the country. you got me

Lasan Kromah.

(07-09-2018 04:19 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-09-2018 03:39 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(07-09-2018 02:58 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-09-2018 02:10 PM)Doglando Wrote:  Jon is asleep at the wheel on Laquincy Rideau. among the best on-ball defenders in the country in '16-'17, if not the best. not sure what tarin smith has done to ever be labeled an impact transfer. The rest I mostly agree with, well done.

So he wasnt a starter on a team that finished 200+ in the country. you got me

Lasan Kromah.

And? kromah filled a need as 6'6" defensive stopper at wing. Was a strong defender on good GW teams. Remained a good defender at uconn. Tarin smith is not that, in fact he's been a below average defender on a very bad defensive team. And what need is he filling for uconn that makes him an impact transfer? adams, vital and gilbert is all the scoring guards you need. bad comparison

(07-09-2018 04:32 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(07-09-2018 04:19 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-09-2018 03:39 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(07-09-2018 02:58 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-09-2018 02:10 PM)Doglando Wrote:  Jon is asleep at the wheel on Laquincy Rideau. among the best on-ball defenders in the country in '16-'17, if not the best. not sure what tarin smith has done to ever be labeled an impact transfer. The rest I mostly agree with, well done.

So he wasnt a starter on a team that finished 200+ in the country. you got me

Lasan Kromah.

And? kromah filled a need as 6'6" defensive stopper at wing. Was a strong defender on good GW teams. Remained a good defender at uconn. Tarin smith is not that, in fact he's been a below average defender on a very bad defensive team. And what need is he filling for uconn that makes him an impact transfer? adams, vital and gilbert is all the scoring guards you need. bad comparison

The only one with bad stats is you. Kromah's "good" GW teams went 16-15, 17-14, 13-17, and 10-21.

(07-09-2018 05:03 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-09-2018 04:32 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(07-09-2018 04:19 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(07-09-2018 03:39 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(07-09-2018 02:58 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

So he wasnt a starter on a team that finished 200+ in the country. you got me

Lasan Kromah.

And? kromah filled a need as 6'6" defensive stopper at wing. Was a strong defender on good GW teams. Remained a good defender at uconn. Tarin smith is not that, in fact he's been a below average defender on a very bad defensive team. And what need is he filling for uconn that makes him an impact transfer? adams, vital and gilbert is all the scoring guards you need. bad comparison

The only one with bad stats is you. Kromah's "good" GW teams went 16-15, 17-14, 13-17, and 10-21.

typo. I meant good defensive team. 2013 they were #49

clever way of dodging the real question. What role does tarin smith fill on uconn that makes him an impact transfer?

(07-09-2018 08:34 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-09-2018 08:27 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(07-09-2018 08:20 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  That's definitely a new one, and never heard of any of these players. Cindy and UConn make a huge jump. USF and Memphis completely poo the bed. Did he accidentally post the womens lacrosse rankings?

Basketball...I don't think they play that sport in your part of the Carolinas.

Also, Cane Broome will never be able to break out with Cronin as his coach.

Can you guys please put a disclaimer up on threads that don't involve sports.

LOL

I mean it's July!

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i personally feel that sissanatuh is overrated and we'll be biting our fingernails come tourney time unless having an inside presence is what truly is overrated. we essentially have jarron cumberland returning and some other dudes. i think we'll finish no lower than fifth and maybe make the tourney

Penny going to shock the world

(07-09-2018 05:28 PM)Lush Wrote:  i personally feel that sissanatuh is overrated and we'll be biting our fingernails come tourney time unless having an inside presence is what truly is overrated. we essentially have jarron cumberland returning and some other dudes. i think we'll finish no lower than fifth and maybe make the tourney

its some "other dudes" because no one cares about defense...if i wasnt annoying with my love of galen robinson's defense, most in here would have said he sucked (without deep investigating)
when clark or evans went to the bench it wasnt some big drop off where everyone would just start scoring on cincy...

i was of the mindset that i though uc would be overrated too when the season was ending but then i was looking at some evans draft stuff and the amount of body transformation he had in 2 years was amazing (b4 junior season)

culture and conditioning are what win games...not many new players are expected to play for cincy...almost everyone is multi years in the system.. all knee deep in cincy culture, system, body development and expectations to win...

cincy easily makes the tournment imo..they only way is if we have 6-7 tourney calibur teams and someone just cant make it....

now i have a different theory for the type of teams that get far in the tourney, once in...and thats a different topic in which cincy might be lacking

(07-09-2018 06:36 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-09-2018 05:28 PM)Lush Wrote:  i personally feel that sissanatuh is overrated and we'll be biting our fingernails come tourney time unless having an inside presence is what truly is overrated. we essentially have jarron cumberland returning and some other dudes. i think we'll finish no lower than fifth and maybe make the tourney

its some "other dudes" because no one cares about defense...if i wasnt annoying with my love of galen robinson's defense, most in here would have said he sucked (without deep investigating)
when clark or evans went to the bench it wasnt some big drop off where everyone would just start scoring on cincy...

i was of the mindset that i though uc would be overrated too when the season was ending but then i was looking at some evans draft stuff and the amount of body transformation he had in 2 years was amazing (b4 junior season)

culture and conditioning are what win games...not many new players are expected to play for cincy...almost everyone is multi years in the system.. all knee deep in cincy culture, system, body development and expectations to win...

cincy easily makes the tournment imo..they only way is if we have 6-7 tourney calibur teams and someone just cant make it....

now i have a different theory for the type of teams that get far in the tourney, once in...and thats a different topic in which cincy might be lacking

Cincy doesn't make the tourney if their offense doesn't come close to catching up with their defense next season. They're not going to be beating teams like Memphis and Temple by 40 points anymore. There will be a lot more close low-scoring games (similar to @Wichita State and the AAC Championship vs. Houston) and if Cincy comes out on the losing side of too many of those, that could be their downfall next season.

(07-09-2018 09:59 AM)BrooklynRocket Wrote:  Couple thoughts...

-I'd personally rank Tulsa and Memphis above Wichita State. I don't buy the hype that Marshall alone will keep Wichita State relevant this season. Tulsa returns a lot including some pretty underrated players (Taplin, Jeffries, Igbanu). Tulsa could easily finish in the top half of the AAC.

-UConn as a sleeper? Idk. I don't think they'll be significantly better than last season. I'd say Temple is an "under-the-radar" team more likely to make noise in the conference.

-Seth LeDay should be included as an impact transfer.

-No love for David Collins as a breakout player? He averaged 16 ppg over the final 10 games of last season. Don't sleep on Ray Ona Embo as well.

I am going to go out on a limb and say that Rothstein probably doesn't know jack squat about any of the players on ECU's roster. He didn't mention LeDay as a potential impact transfer and he didn't list Tyler Foster or Jayden Gardener as potential impact freshmen. Those are three guys that might pan out pretty good in the AAC.

In fact Rothstein didn't even list Shawn Williams or Isaac Fleming as potential breakout players in the league, even though Williams is the AAC freshman of the year and Fleming is one of the better returning point guards in the league. I don't think that Rothstein knows much about the teams in the middle and bottom of the league.

http://nsjonline.com/article/2018/03/ecu...-the-year/
https://static.theamerican.org/custompag...m#conf.wki

(07-09-2018 06:36 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-09-2018 05:28 PM)Lush Wrote:  i personally feel that sissanatuh is overrated and we'll be biting our fingernails come tourney time unless having an inside presence is what truly is overrated. we essentially have jarron cumberland returning and some other dudes. i think we'll finish no lower than fifth and maybe make the tourney

its some "other dudes" because no one cares about defense...if i wasnt annoying with my love of galen robinson's defense, most in here would have said he sucked (without deep investigating)
when clark or evans went to the bench it wasnt some big drop off where everyone would just start scoring on cincy...

i was of the mindset that i though uc would be overrated too when the season was ending but then i was looking at some evans draft stuff and the amount of body transformation he had in 2 years was amazing (b4 junior season)

culture and conditioning are what win games...not many new players are expected to play for cincy...almost everyone is multi years in the system.. all knee deep in cincy culture, system, body development and expectations to win...

cincy easily makes the tournment imo..they only way is if we have 6-7 tourney calibur teams and someone just cant make it....

now i have a different theory for the type of teams that get far in the tourney, once in...and thats a different topic in which cincy might be lacking

how good is your team overall if you're consistently losing games in the low 60's? it'ss time for cane broome to become a household name. looking for major improvement from tre scott. those things have to happen for this to become a tournament team. i still think we'll beat ucf twice and houston's probably the team to beat now that chicken knowles has been granted a tenth year

i think cronin will eventually breakthrough and be in the sweet sixteen more often than not with occasional flirtation with life beyond. i think he's proven at this point that he can find the best off the rust heap and fabricate a pretty reliable machine