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Army is discharging immigrant recruits who were promised citizenship.
— Some immigrant U.S. Army reservists and recruits who enlisted in the military with a promised path to citizenship are being abruptly discharged, the Associated Press has learned.

The AP was unable to quantify how many men and women who enlisted through the special recruitment program have been booted from the Army, but immigration attorneys say they know of more than 40 who have been discharged or whose status has become questionable, jeopardizing their futures.

This is disgusting. Where is the outrage? This is the very face of racism and it’s sickening. America can no longer keep her word in the Age of Trump? Just because he is a lying sack of **** he has to make our military too?


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Until numbers are given and reasons, I'm gonna assume discharges for reasons other than simply immigrant status. Guys do **** up and get booted.

40 would suggest I'm likely right.
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RE: Army is discharging immigrant recruits who were promised citizenship.
Again Shere. You do your side no justice and the weak reply is telling of your inability to make a counter argument. Feel free to try and justify such a racist action. Booting out cadets who were promised citizenship based on the pigmentation of their skin. Sickening.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


Scary how well this fits today’s America. Almost line by line but substitute Migrants for Jews.
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RE: Army is discharging immigrant recruits who were promised citizenship.
40 people discharged from the army is supposed to be "scary"?

Your pathetic insanity knows no ends.

Seek Jesus, because you are beyond lost.
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I agree people do **** up but in these times of splitting up families at the border I can not give them any benefit of the doubt. They are stone walking any investigation on the number of recruits who have been booted. A whistle blower will come through. The Army itself is not racist. We just have a commander in chief that either is getting some very poor counseling (Miller) or approves of it.

No other word for this but horrible.
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40 out of 10,000. Yeah, gonna have to say woop-dee-do.
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(07-06-2018 11:41 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Again Shere. You do your side no justice and the weak reply is telling of your inability to make a counter argument. Feel free to try and justify such a racist action. Booting out cadets who were promised citizenship based on the pigmentation of their skin. Sickening.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


Scary how well this fits today’s America. Almost line by line but substitute Migrants for Jews.
Actually ive read quite a bit about it. They are discharging people with incomplete documentation. You are just screaming at the sky so I provided you with company.
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Army is discharging immigrant recruits who were promised citizenship.
Last I heard over 800 enlisted, 40 is 5% of that, so until I see reasons, I don’t buy this lame article, but, nice try Mach.


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(07-06-2018 11:41 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Again Shere. You do your side no justice and the weak reply is telling of your inability to make a counter argument. Feel free to try and justify such a racist action. Booting out cadets who were promised citizenship based on the pigmentation of their skin. Sickening.

First they came for the Conservatives, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Conservative.

Then they came for the NRA members, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not an NRA member.

Then they came for the Fundamentalists Christians, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Fundamentalist.

Then they came for the centrist Democrats, and I did not speak out-because I was not a centrist Democrat.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


Scary how well this fits today’s America. Almost line by line but substitute Migrants for Jews.

I changed it so it fits today better. The far left Democrats will come for you too. If they aren't stopped.
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(07-06-2018 11:40 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Until numbers are given and reasons, I'm gonna assume discharges for reasons other than simply immigrant status. Guys do **** up and get booted.

40 would suggest I'm likely right.

Indeed, guys and girls both **** up and get booted, every single day. And that's probably the case here, but never let the lack of details prevent Mach from jumping to conclusions or ruining a great narrative.
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RE: Army is discharging immigrant recruits who were promised citizenship.
(07-06-2018 11:41 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Again Shere. You do your side no justice and the weak reply is telling of your inability to make a counter argument. Feel free to try and justify such a racist action. Booting out cadets who were promised citizenship based on the pigmentation of their skin. Sickening.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


Scary how well this fits today’s America. Almost line by line but substitute Migrants for Jews.

That isn't true at all. People that migrate to our country legally are fine. You want to say legal and illegal are the same, when in fact they are not. Illegal migrants have broken our law. That is a problem.

I don't know the specifics of these recruits, and will reserve my judgement until I've heard more of the story.

I know liberals believe the world is collapsing, but it isn't. The current administration is just undoing many of the radical policies Obama enacted and setting the nation back on course.
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RE: Army is discharging immigrant recruits who were promised citizenship.
(07-06-2018 11:28 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  — Some immigrant U.S. Army reservists and recruits who enlisted in the military with a promised path to citizenship are being abruptly discharged, the Associated Press has learned.

The AP was unable to quantify how many men and women who enlisted through the special recruitment program have been booted from the Army, but immigration attorneys say they know of more than 40 who have been discharged or whose status has become questionable, jeopardizing their futures.

This is disgusting. Where is the outrage? This is the very face of racism and it’s sickening. America can no longer keep her word in the Age of Trump? Just because he is a lying sack of **** he has to make our military too?


https://apnews.com/tag/UnitedStatesmilitary

Who promised them this? Certainly not Trump. Enlistments under Trump would not be ending yet, seeing that he hasn't been in office a full 2 years. They were promised by Obama. Look I understand, Obama promised a lot of things. Heck he promised that I could keep my Doctor and healthcare plan. And we know where that one went.
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Again.

None of you have posted any links. I have.. They can’t get the accurate number and the immigrants under this system have had their basic trainings delayed. From my linked article btw.

Try harder conservatives.
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Like others have said, we have a story about 40 discharged out of 5000 recruited in 2016 and 10000 currently serving. This doesn't sound like some sinister plan to eliminate a path to citizenship for legal immigrants. With no other information we have to take it at face value
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(07-06-2018 11:50 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  Last I heard over 800 enlisted, 40 is 5% of that, so until I see reasons, I don’t buy this lame article, but, nice try Mach.


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Link says 5,000 in 2016 signed up and 10,000 total currently serve.
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RE: Army is discharging immigrant recruits who were promised citizenship.
Based on the article Mach posted it would seem something is off.

As much as I love this country some of the people who work in it must wear Velcro shoes because tying the laces is too hard.

I'm willing to bet some of the instances are mistakes, some maybe that the paper work is not in order, and others could be they violated a rule that could have them discharged. Could be some heard of the program signed up to join the army and never did anything to enroll into the program. That would be my guess.

We'll have to wait and see how it shakes out.
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(07-06-2018 11:41 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Again Shere. You do your side no justice and the weak reply is telling of your inability to make a counter argument. Feel free to try and justify such a racist action. Booting out cadets who were promised citizenship based on the pigmentation of their skin. Sickening.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


Scary how well this fits today’s America. Almost line by line but substitute Migrants for Jews.

Yeah, you're really doing your side justice...
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Security issues. Makes sense.
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