(07-02-2018 11:01 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:46 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:43 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(06-29-2018 04:07 PM)SouthernBlue Wrote:  We should never play Sun Belt teams home and home. We should never play 2 Sun Belt teams in the same year. WE should never play FCS teams home and home. We should never play 2 FCS teams in the same year!

A reasonable schedule that is very doable would be:

1 Power 5 team home and home
1 MWC or MAC team home and home
1 CUSA team home and home
and
1 Sun Belt or FCS school in the Liberty Bowl.

In addition to the fact we don't play FCS home/home. And we don't play 2 FCS in the same year...Your proposal only gets 7 home games every other year. We want and need 7 home games at least 3 out of 4 years.

Why? Why do we need a 7th game if getting 7 homes games gets 20,000 to see us play Georgia State. Wouldn't we rather have quality over quantity? I'm fine with 6 home games if it brings a better home OOC schedule.

You and I have been through this and we disagree. But I'll play again. Assuming we can regularly get home/home with multiple P5 teams in the same year - which I don't think we can...

The strategy is to build the program and the base, and to get a shot at our ultimate achievement - the Access bowl slot. A 7th home game goes a long way with all of those goals.

Even if you choose to just focus on the tickets sold - short sighted IMO - we are showing that by building the program, we can get more than 20k for Ga State. Say our base is now 30k. 30k for two home games > 50k for one big home game. Both in tix sold and in other revenue streams.

Disagree that adding a crappy team for a 7th home game helps us achieve anything.

And when many of our competitors in the AAC have 2 P5s on their OOC schedule year after year, why would you think Memphis could not do the same?

Scheduling Mercer, Georgia State, and South Alabama as our home OOC is a choice, not a necessity. And that choice means we get a crappy September schedule every other year, with a half-filled Liberty Bowl. It's a bad decision.

(07-02-2018 11:06 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:01 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:46 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:43 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(06-29-2018 04:07 PM)SouthernBlue Wrote:  We should never play Sun Belt teams home and home. We should never play 2 Sun Belt teams in the same year. WE should never play FCS teams home and home. We should never play 2 FCS teams in the same year!

A reasonable schedule that is very doable would be:

1 Power 5 team home and home
1 MWC or MAC team home and home
1 CUSA team home and home
and
1 Sun Belt or FCS school in the Liberty Bowl.

In addition to the fact we don't play FCS home/home. And we don't play 2 FCS in the same year...Your proposal only gets 7 home games every other year. We want and need 7 home games at least 3 out of 4 years.

Why? Why do we need a 7th game if getting 7 homes games gets 20,000 to see us play Georgia State. Wouldn't we rather have quality over quantity? I'm fine with 6 home games if it brings a better home OOC schedule.

You and I have been through this and we disagree. But I'll play again. Assuming we can regularly get home/home with multiple P5 teams in the same year - which I don't think we can...

The strategy is to build the program and the base, and to get a shot at our ultimate achievement - the Access bowl slot. A 7th home game goes a long way with all of those goals.

Even if you choose to just focus on the tickets sold - short sighted IMO - we are showing that by building the program, we can get more than 20k for Ga State. Say our base is now 30k. 30k for two home games > 50k for one big home game. Both in tix sold and in other revenue streams.

Disagree that adding a crappy team for a 7th home game helps us achieve anything.

And when many of our competitors in the AAC have 2 P5s on their OOC schedule year after year, why would you think Memphis could not do the same?

Scheduling Mercer, Georgia State, and South Alabama as our home OOC is a choice, not a necessity. And that choice means we get a crappy September schedule every other year, with a half-filled Liberty Bowl. It's a bad decision.

I mostly agree with you, but if we beat Mercer in week 1 and beat Navy on the road in week 2, the crowds will be really good for Georgia State and South Alabama.

The schedule (this year) sets up nicely for a 6-0 start and a blockbuster/sellout type game on October 13th against UCF at home!

But, I do agree that in the future, we should look to strengthen the non-conference a bit.

Finishing in the 4 team playoff will never, never, never, never happen as long as Memphis remains outside of the P5. No G5 team will ever be granted one of those four playoff spots under the current setup. If there's an eventual expansion to eight playoff teams, then we're talking. But under the current setup, it will not happen.

Grabbing that G5 access bowl spot is the goal, and the schedule we play now works just fine in that regard. Like someone else said, Southern Miss used to get the hell beaten out of them by P5/BCS teams, getting an occasional win, and it didn't get them much of anywhere.

And like I've mentioned before, I'm willing to bet the lack of P5 home and homes isn't for lack of trying. They ain't exactly lining up to play Memphis in our current state. UCLA signed that home and home when things were really down for Tiger football. Not a chance they'd sign that today.

Winning cures everything. If I'm not mistaken, I believe Memphis has already broken the record for season ticket sales, and that's with no P5 teams coming to the Liberty Bowl in 2018.

The schedule is fine...but that's just my opinion. If a P5 came calling tomorrow, of course we'd have to jump on it.

That's good, oru. And I'm a season ticket holder. But we should be scheduling better. Problem is the OOC schedule is set through 2024. Expect a lot more of this in the future.

(07-02-2018 11:06 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:01 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:46 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:43 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(06-29-2018 04:07 PM)SouthernBlue Wrote:  We should never play Sun Belt teams home and home. We should never play 2 Sun Belt teams in the same year. WE should never play FCS teams home and home. We should never play 2 FCS teams in the same year!

A reasonable schedule that is very doable would be:

1 Power 5 team home and home
1 MWC or MAC team home and home
1 CUSA team home and home
and
1 Sun Belt or FCS school in the Liberty Bowl.

In addition to the fact we don't play FCS home/home. And we don't play 2 FCS in the same year...Your proposal only gets 7 home games every other year. We want and need 7 home games at least 3 out of 4 years.

Why? Why do we need a 7th game if getting 7 homes games gets 20,000 to see us play Georgia State. Wouldn't we rather have quality over quantity? I'm fine with 6 home games if it brings a better home OOC schedule.

You and I have been through this and we disagree. But I'll play again. Assuming we can regularly get home/home with multiple P5 teams in the same year - which I don't think we can...

The strategy is to build the program and the base, and to get a shot at our ultimate achievement - the Access bowl slot. A 7th home game goes a long way with all of those goals.

Even if you choose to just focus on the tickets sold - short sighted IMO - we are showing that by building the program, we can get more than 20k for Ga State. Say our base is now 30k. 30k for two home games > 50k for one big home game. Both in tix sold and in other revenue streams.

Disagree that adding a crappy team for a 7th home game helps us achieve anything.

And when many of our competitors in the AAC have 2 P5s on their OOC schedule year after year, why would you think Memphis could not do the same?

Scheduling Mercer, Georgia State, and South Alabama as our home OOC is a choice, not a necessity. And that choice means we get a crappy September schedule every other year, with a half-filled Liberty Bowl. It's a bad decision.

I agree with Tigx. That 7th crappy game is not going to draw more than 20-25K in the stands for the foreseeable future. And it adds nothing to our resume for an Access Bowl spot. Memphis FB fans want a name game. I’m not sure why the best of the G5 don’t get together and schedule each other. Like a basketball conference challenge but only the top 10-12 G5 schools are scheduled to play each other. Top 5-6 AAC teams vs the best of the rest. Opening weekend.

(07-02-2018 11:36 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:06 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:01 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:46 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:43 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  In addition to the fact we don't play FCS home/home. And we don't play 2 FCS in the same year...Your proposal only gets 7 home games every other year. We want and need 7 home games at least 3 out of 4 years.

Why? Why do we need a 7th game if getting 7 homes games gets 20,000 to see us play Georgia State. Wouldn't we rather have quality over quantity? I'm fine with 6 home games if it brings a better home OOC schedule.

You and I have been through this and we disagree. But I'll play again. Assuming we can regularly get home/home with multiple P5 teams in the same year - which I don't think we can...

The strategy is to build the program and the base, and to get a shot at our ultimate achievement - the Access bowl slot. A 7th home game goes a long way with all of those goals.

Even if you choose to just focus on the tickets sold - short sighted IMO - we are showing that by building the program, we can get more than 20k for Ga State. Say our base is now 30k. 30k for two home games > 50k for one big home game. Both in tix sold and in other revenue streams.

Disagree that adding a crappy team for a 7th home game helps us achieve anything.

And when many of our competitors in the AAC have 2 P5s on their OOC schedule year after year, why would you think Memphis could not do the same?

Scheduling Mercer, Georgia State, and South Alabama as our home OOC is a choice, not a necessity. And that choice means we get a crappy September schedule every other year, with a half-filled Liberty Bowl. It's a bad decision.

I agree with Tigx. That 7th crappy game is not going to draw more than 20-25K in the stands for the foreseeable future. And it adds nothing to our resume for an Access Bowl spot. Memphis FB fans want a name game. I’m not sure why the best of the G5 don’t get together and schedule each other. Like a basketball conference challenge but only the top 10-12 G5 schools are scheduled to play each other. Top 5-6 AAC teams vs the best of the rest. Opening weekend.

A top 6 from the Mountain West vs. the top 6 of the AAC is an interesting idea. Problem is football schedules are set years in advance.

(07-02-2018 11:36 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:06 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:01 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:46 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:43 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  In addition to the fact we don't play FCS home/home. And we don't play 2 FCS in the same year...Your proposal only gets 7 home games every other year. We want and need 7 home games at least 3 out of 4 years.

Why? Why do we need a 7th game if getting 7 homes games gets 20,000 to see us play Georgia State. Wouldn't we rather have quality over quantity? I'm fine with 6 home games if it brings a better home OOC schedule.

You and I have been through this and we disagree. But I'll play again. Assuming we can regularly get home/home with multiple P5 teams in the same year - which I don't think we can...

The strategy is to build the program and the base, and to get a shot at our ultimate achievement - the Access bowl slot. A 7th home game goes a long way with all of those goals.

Even if you choose to just focus on the tickets sold - short sighted IMO - we are showing that by building the program, we can get more than 20k for Ga State. Say our base is now 30k. 30k for two home games > 50k for one big home game. Both in tix sold and in other revenue streams.

Disagree that adding a crappy team for a 7th home game helps us achieve anything.

And when many of our competitors in the AAC have 2 P5s on their OOC schedule year after year, why would you think Memphis could not do the same?

Scheduling Mercer, Georgia State, and South Alabama as our home OOC is a choice, not a necessity. And that choice means we get a crappy September schedule every other year, with a half-filled Liberty Bowl. It's a bad decision.

I agree with Tigx. That 7th crappy game is not going to draw more than 20-25K in the stands for the foreseeable future. And it adds nothing to our resume for an Access Bowl spot. Memphis FB fans want a name game. I’m not sure why the best of the G5 don’t get together and schedule each other. Like a basketball conference challenge but only the top 10-12 G5 schools are scheduled to play each other. Top 5-6 AAC teams vs the best of the rest. Opening weekend.

I agree with Tigx, too (mostly).

There's a fine line, though. But, loading up the schedule and getting our brains beat out early in the season is no fun. I'd like to see us try to schedule the Vandy's, Indiana's, etc., of the college football world. The Kansas football series worked out well.

(07-02-2018 11:49 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:36 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:06 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:01 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:46 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Why? Why do we need a 7th game if getting 7 homes games gets 20,000 to see us play Georgia State. Wouldn't we rather have quality over quantity? I'm fine with 6 home games if it brings a better home OOC schedule.

You and I have been through this and we disagree. But I'll play again. Assuming we can regularly get home/home with multiple P5 teams in the same year - which I don't think we can...

The strategy is to build the program and the base, and to get a shot at our ultimate achievement - the Access bowl slot. A 7th home game goes a long way with all of those goals.

Even if you choose to just focus on the tickets sold - short sighted IMO - we are showing that by building the program, we can get more than 20k for Ga State. Say our base is now 30k. 30k for two home games > 50k for one big home game. Both in tix sold and in other revenue streams.

Disagree that adding a crappy team for a 7th home game helps us achieve anything.

And when many of our competitors in the AAC have 2 P5s on their OOC schedule year after year, why would you think Memphis could not do the same?

Scheduling Mercer, Georgia State, and South Alabama as our home OOC is a choice, not a necessity. And that choice means we get a crappy September schedule every other year, with a half-filled Liberty Bowl. It's a bad decision.

I agree with Tigx. That 7th crappy game is not going to draw more than 20-25K in the stands for the foreseeable future. And it adds nothing to our resume for an Access Bowl spot. Memphis FB fans want a name game. I’m not sure why the best of the G5 don’t get together and schedule each other. Like a basketball conference challenge but only the top 10-12 G5 schools are scheduled to play each other. Top 5-6 AAC teams vs the best of the rest. Opening weekend.

I agree with Tigx, too (mostly).

There's a fine line, though. But, loading up the schedule and getting our brains beat out early in the season is no fun. I'd like to see us try to schedule the Vandy's, Indiana's, etc., of the college football world. The Kansas football series worked out well.

The problem is Bowen did that with Purdue and couldn't get us a home game out of it. PURDUE.

(07-02-2018 11:53 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:49 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:36 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:06 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:01 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  You and I have been through this and we disagree. But I'll play again. Assuming we can regularly get home/home with multiple P5 teams in the same year - which I don't think we can...

The strategy is to build the program and the base, and to get a shot at our ultimate achievement - the Access bowl slot. A 7th home game goes a long way with all of those goals.

Even if you choose to just focus on the tickets sold - short sighted IMO - we are showing that by building the program, we can get more than 20k for Ga State. Say our base is now 30k. 30k for two home games > 50k for one big home game. Both in tix sold and in other revenue streams.

Disagree that adding a crappy team for a 7th home game helps us achieve anything.

And when many of our competitors in the AAC have 2 P5s on their OOC schedule year after year, why would you think Memphis could not do the same?

Scheduling Mercer, Georgia State, and South Alabama as our home OOC is a choice, not a necessity. And that choice means we get a crappy September schedule every other year, with a half-filled Liberty Bowl. It's a bad decision.

I agree with Tigx. That 7th crappy game is not going to draw more than 20-25K in the stands for the foreseeable future. And it adds nothing to our resume for an Access Bowl spot. Memphis FB fans want a name game. I’m not sure why the best of the G5 don’t get together and schedule each other. Like a basketball conference challenge but only the top 10-12 G5 schools are scheduled to play each other. Top 5-6 AAC teams vs the best of the rest. Opening weekend.

I agree with Tigx, too (mostly).

There's a fine line, though. But, loading up the schedule and getting our brains beat out early in the season is no fun. I'd like to see us try to schedule the Vandy's, Indiana's, etc., of the college football world. The Kansas football series worked out well.

The problem is Bowen did that with Purdue and couldn't get us a home game out of it. PURDUE.

doesn't shock me Fish.....he's just awful

One P5 to me every year is fine, and is probably all Memphis can expect in current times. I think part of the problem is that the SEC doesn't tend to take on a strong OOC unless it's a made for TV event. And we're in the heart of SEC country. The ACC seems most willing to play AAC teams - but we're not really in their footprint.

There are 20 P5 OOC games scheduled with the AAC this year (7 H, 13 A). 8 of them are ACC games. 4 are B10 and 3 are Pac. 1 is the standard Navy-ND game. The SEC and B12 are least likely to schedule AAC teams - at least this year.

One every year gives you the chance for 7 home games - if you get the P5 to come to your place (this year's ratio is about 2 for 1). You just have to plan out your home/homes with the G5 to hit during the right years. One FCS is not a problem - it's what everyone does.

We are one of 4 AAC teams with only 1 P5 game. We are one of 3 AAC teams with 7 home games.

I will say that I'd like to see better G5 home/homes. If you need to buy Ga State here the year Mizzou is on the road, that's fine. But if you're going on the road to a G5, it should be a better opportunity than Ga State.

(07-02-2018 11:56 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:53 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:49 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:36 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:06 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Disagree that adding a crappy team for a 7th home game helps us achieve anything.

And when many of our competitors in the AAC have 2 P5s on their OOC schedule year after year, why would you think Memphis could not do the same?

Scheduling Mercer, Georgia State, and South Alabama as our home OOC is a choice, not a necessity. And that choice means we get a crappy September schedule every other year, with a half-filled Liberty Bowl. It's a bad decision.

I agree with Tigx. That 7th crappy game is not going to draw more than 20-25K in the stands for the foreseeable future. And it adds nothing to our resume for an Access Bowl spot. Memphis FB fans want a name game. I’m not sure why the best of the G5 don’t get together and schedule each other. Like a basketball conference challenge but only the top 10-12 G5 schools are scheduled to play each other. Top 5-6 AAC teams vs the best of the rest. Opening weekend.

I agree with Tigx, too (mostly).

There's a fine line, though. But, loading up the schedule and getting our brains beat out early in the season is no fun. I'd like to see us try to schedule the Vandy's, Indiana's, etc., of the college football world. The Kansas football series worked out well.

The problem is Bowen did that with Purdue and couldn't get us a home game out of it. PURDUE.

doesn't shock me Fish.....he's just awful

Yep. And Bowen was shocked when he caught flak for doing it. Sure wish he interviewed better.

(07-02-2018 12:02 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:56 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:53 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:49 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:36 AM)Shooters Wrote:  I agree with Tigx. That 7th crappy game is not going to draw more than 20-25K in the stands for the foreseeable future. And it adds nothing to our resume for an Access Bowl spot. Memphis FB fans want a name game. I’m not sure why the best of the G5 don’t get together and schedule each other. Like a basketball conference challenge but only the top 10-12 G5 schools are scheduled to play each other. Top 5-6 AAC teams vs the best of the rest. Opening weekend.

I agree with Tigx, too (mostly).

There's a fine line, though. But, loading up the schedule and getting our brains beat out early in the season is no fun. I'd like to see us try to schedule the Vandy's, Indiana's, etc., of the college football world. The Kansas football series worked out well.

The problem is Bowen did that with Purdue and couldn't get us a home game out of it. PURDUE.

doesn't shock me Fish.....he's just awful

Yep. And Bowen was shocked when he caught flak for doing it. Sure wish he interviewed better.

He's an idiot. His reasoning was that we'd have to take the return game too far down the road or something. And you've got Alabama and Texas scheduling games 5 years out. I've seen games scheduled out to 2027.

Is it possible that Bowen took the softer schedule philosophy, due to the fact that he thought we were going to the Big 12?

(07-02-2018 12:32 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Is it possible that Bowen took the softer schedule philosophy, due to the fact that he thought we were going to the Big 12?

Not according to BOWEN. he detailed scheduling philosophy after B12 rejection.

(07-02-2018 11:46 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:36 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:06 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:01 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:46 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Why? Why do we need a 7th game if getting 7 homes games gets 20,000 to see us play Georgia State. Wouldn't we rather have quality over quantity? I'm fine with 6 home games if it brings a better home OOC schedule.

You and I have been through this and we disagree. But I'll play again. Assuming we can regularly get home/home with multiple P5 teams in the same year - which I don't think we can...

The strategy is to build the program and the base, and to get a shot at our ultimate achievement - the Access bowl slot. A 7th home game goes a long way with all of those goals.

Even if you choose to just focus on the tickets sold - short sighted IMO - we are showing that by building the program, we can get more than 20k for Ga State. Say our base is now 30k. 30k for two home games > 50k for one big home game. Both in tix sold and in other revenue streams.

Disagree that adding a crappy team for a 7th home game helps us achieve anything.

And when many of our competitors in the AAC have 2 P5s on their OOC schedule year after year, why would you think Memphis could not do the same?

Scheduling Mercer, Georgia State, and South Alabama as our home OOC is a choice, not a necessity. And that choice means we get a crappy September schedule every other year, with a half-filled Liberty Bowl. It's a bad decision.

I agree with Tigx. That 7th crappy game is not going to draw more than 20-25K in the stands for the foreseeable future. And it adds nothing to our resume for an Access Bowl spot. Memphis FB fans want a name game. I’m not sure why the best of the G5 don’t get together and schedule each other. Like a basketball conference challenge but only the top 10-12 G5 schools are scheduled to play each other. Top 5-6 AAC teams vs the best of the rest. Opening weekend.

A top 6 from the Mountain West vs. the top 6 of the AAC is an interesting idea. Problem is football schedules are set years in advance.

That, and it's easy in basketball to come back from an early season loss. Not so much in Football. You put all the best "G-5s" together in the first week, and you will eliminate half the field from competition as far as getting into the top25.

(07-02-2018 11:36 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:06 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:01 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:46 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:43 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  In addition to the fact we don't play FCS home/home. And we don't play 2 FCS in the same year...Your proposal only gets 7 home games every other year. We want and need 7 home games at least 3 out of 4 years.

Why? Why do we need a 7th game if getting 7 homes games gets 20,000 to see us play Georgia State. Wouldn't we rather have quality over quantity? I'm fine with 6 home games if it brings a better home OOC schedule.

You and I have been through this and we disagree. But I'll play again. Assuming we can regularly get home/home with multiple P5 teams in the same year - which I don't think we can...

The strategy is to build the program and the base, and to get a shot at our ultimate achievement - the Access bowl slot. A 7th home game goes a long way with all of those goals.

Even if you choose to just focus on the tickets sold - short sighted IMO - we are showing that by building the program, we can get more than 20k for Ga State. Say our base is now 30k. 30k for two home games > 50k for one big home game. Both in tix sold and in other revenue streams.

Disagree that adding a crappy team for a 7th home game helps us achieve anything.

And when many of our competitors in the AAC have 2 P5s on their OOC schedule year after year, why would you think Memphis could not do the same?

Scheduling Mercer, Georgia State, and South Alabama as our home OOC is a choice, not a necessity. And that choice means we get a crappy September schedule every other year, with a half-filled Liberty Bowl. It's a bad decision.

I agree with Tigx. That 7th crappy game is not going to draw more than 20-25K in the stands for the foreseeable future. And it adds nothing to our resume for an Access Bowl spot. Memphis FB fans want a name game. I’m not sure why the best of the G5 don’t get together and schedule each other. Like a basketball conference challenge but only the top 10-12 G5 schools are scheduled to play each other. Top 5-6 AAC teams vs the best of the rest. Opening weekend.

I'll wager you that we draw more than 25K for the Mercer game. Interested?

Some of y'all are going to be really disappointed when the SEC schools quit playing us altogether. On the other hand that will make some of our loser fans really happy.

(07-02-2018 02:18 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:36 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:06 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:01 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:46 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Why? Why do we need a 7th game if getting 7 homes games gets 20,000 to see us play Georgia State. Wouldn't we rather have quality over quantity? I'm fine with 6 home games if it brings a better home OOC schedule.

You and I have been through this and we disagree. But I'll play again. Assuming we can regularly get home/home with multiple P5 teams in the same year - which I don't think we can...

The strategy is to build the program and the base, and to get a shot at our ultimate achievement - the Access bowl slot. A 7th home game goes a long way with all of those goals.

Even if you choose to just focus on the tickets sold - short sighted IMO - we are showing that by building the program, we can get more than 20k for Ga State. Say our base is now 30k. 30k for two home games > 50k for one big home game. Both in tix sold and in other revenue streams.

Disagree that adding a crappy team for a 7th home game helps us achieve anything.

And when many of our competitors in the AAC have 2 P5s on their OOC schedule year after year, why would you think Memphis could not do the same?

Scheduling Mercer, Georgia State, and South Alabama as our home OOC is a choice, not a necessity. And that choice means we get a crappy September schedule every other year, with a half-filled Liberty Bowl. It's a bad decision.

I agree with Tigx. That 7th crappy game is not going to draw more than 20-25K in the stands for the foreseeable future. And it adds nothing to our resume for an Access Bowl spot. Memphis FB fans want a name game. I’m not sure why the best of the G5 don’t get together and schedule each other. Like a basketball conference challenge but only the top 10-12 G5 schools are scheduled to play each other. Top 5-6 AAC teams vs the best of the rest. Opening weekend.

I'll wager you that we draw more than 25K for the Mercer game. Interested?

Not Mercer, cause it's the home opener.

But I'll bet you a donation, on our honor, to St. Jude on the Georgia State game.

(07-02-2018 02:24 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 02:18 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:36 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:06 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:01 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  You and I have been through this and we disagree. But I'll play again. Assuming we can regularly get home/home with multiple P5 teams in the same year - which I don't think we can...

The strategy is to build the program and the base, and to get a shot at our ultimate achievement - the Access bowl slot. A 7th home game goes a long way with all of those goals.

Even if you choose to just focus on the tickets sold - short sighted IMO - we are showing that by building the program, we can get more than 20k for Ga State. Say our base is now 30k. 30k for two home games > 50k for one big home game. Both in tix sold and in other revenue streams.

Disagree that adding a crappy team for a 7th home game helps us achieve anything.

And when many of our competitors in the AAC have 2 P5s on their OOC schedule year after year, why would you think Memphis could not do the same?

Scheduling Mercer, Georgia State, and South Alabama as our home OOC is a choice, not a necessity. And that choice means we get a crappy September schedule every other year, with a half-filled Liberty Bowl. It's a bad decision.

I agree with Tigx. That 7th crappy game is not going to draw more than 20-25K in the stands for the foreseeable future. And it adds nothing to our resume for an Access Bowl spot. Memphis FB fans want a name game. I’m not sure why the best of the G5 don’t get together and schedule each other. Like a basketball conference challenge but only the top 10-12 G5 schools are scheduled to play each other. Top 5-6 AAC teams vs the best of the rest. Opening weekend.

I'll wager you that we draw more than 25K for the Mercer game. Interested?

Not Mercer, cause it's the home opener.

But I'll bet you a donation, on our honor, to St. Jude on the Georgia State game.

Not sure how much a Friday night game will affect attendance, but I don't think it matters if we beat Navy.

If we beat Navy I'm thinking (barring a monsoon) we have at least 30K for the GSU game.

(07-02-2018 02:36 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 02:24 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 02:18 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:36 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:06 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Disagree that adding a crappy team for a 7th home game helps us achieve anything.

And when many of our competitors in the AAC have 2 P5s on their OOC schedule year after year, why would you think Memphis could not do the same?

Scheduling Mercer, Georgia State, and South Alabama as our home OOC is a choice, not a necessity. And that choice means we get a crappy September schedule every other year, with a half-filled Liberty Bowl. It's a bad decision.

I agree with Tigx. That 7th crappy game is not going to draw more than 20-25K in the stands for the foreseeable future. And it adds nothing to our resume for an Access Bowl spot. Memphis FB fans want a name game. I’m not sure why the best of the G5 don’t get together and schedule each other. Like a basketball conference challenge but only the top 10-12 G5 schools are scheduled to play each other. Top 5-6 AAC teams vs the best of the rest. Opening weekend.

I'll wager you that we draw more than 25K for the Mercer game. Interested?

Not Mercer, cause it's the home opener.

But I'll bet you a donation, on our honor, to St. Jude on the Georgia State game.

Not sure how much a Friday night game will affect attendance, but I don't think it matters if we beat Navy.

If we beat Navy I'm thinking (barring a monsoon) we have at least 30K for the GSU game.

Loser sends $100 bucks to St. Jude. Deal?