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RE: UTSA to Share Alamodome With New Pro Team
(06-24-2018 10:26 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(06-24-2018 10:12 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(06-23-2018 12:21 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(06-23-2018 08:50 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(06-22-2018 12:54 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  Catch it while you can because this will be yet another failed league trying to find their niche next to the NFL. Stupid idea, as I really have no idea what the organizers think will make this one different from any of the others that tried and failed. Dumb people who need to learn the hard way.

Your lack of entrepreneurial vision is astounding. A lof of people with your view said the same thing about the AFL back in the 1960's. And look what happened. 07-coffee3

I will bet you any amount of money you wish, any odds you wish, over the rest of time, that neither one of this league or the new XFL will ever catch on beyond the level of arena football, if they make it that far.

You point to the AFL in the 60s, what about:

AAFC(1946-1949)
AFL(1926)
AFL(1936-1937)
AFL(1940)
AFL-Arena Football(1987-2008)
AF2(2000-2009)
CFL(1965-1969)
FXFL(2014-2015)
IFL(1999-2000)
IPFL(1999-2001)
PSFL(1991)
UFL(2009-2012)
USFL(1983-1985)
WFL(1974-1975)
XFL(2001)

Did those leagues have an "astounding lack entrepreneurial vision" as well?

07-coffee3

I knew someone would mention all the football league failures. That's EASY to do. Thank you Captain Obvious!!

[Image: tenor.gif?itemid=5388622]

You proffered one success story as proof that someone had an "astounding lack of entrepreneurial vision", I simply referenced fifteen examples of failure. Starting in the 1920s, there's been at least one failed football league in every decade but the 1950's.

So you can call me captain obvious as an attempt to deflect from your bad argument or you can make a better argument than "this one time a league went up against the NFL and succeeded, pay no mind to these fifteen other leagues!".

You're such a dufus. 03-lmfao

Yes, none of us understand this stuff. It's so complicated. Only YOU are capable of understanding such complicated matters. Please explain it some more. We want you to. 03-lmfao
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RE: UTSA to Share Alamodome With New Pro Team
I don't think another pro football league could be 100% self-sustaining, but IMO it would be in the NFL's best interest to invest in a league like the NFL-Europe so there's a place to develop players, coaches and referees beyond college.
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RE: UTSA to Share Alamodome With New Pro Team
(06-23-2018 12:21 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(06-23-2018 08:50 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(06-22-2018 12:54 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(06-22-2018 10:54 AM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  San Antonio was just awarded the newest Alliance pro team. Apparently they will be playing in the dome. Im a little intrigued as I live close to ol San Antone. I may just have to catch a game and see if I like the goods.

http://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/austin/n...ral-season

Catch it while you can because this will be yet another failed league trying to find their niche next to the NFL. Stupid idea, as I really have no idea what the organizers think will make this one different from any of the others that tried and failed. Dumb people who need to learn the hard way.

Your lack of entrepreneurial vision is astounding. A lof of people with your view said the same thing about the AFL back in the 1960's. And look what happened. 07-coffee3

I will bet you any amount of money you wish, any odds you wish, over the rest of time, that neither one of this league or the new XFL will ever catch on beyond the level of arena football, if they make it that far.

You point to the AFL in the 60s, what about:

AAFC(1946-1949)
AFL(1926)
AFL(1936-1937)
AFL(1940)
AFL-Arena Football(1987-2008)
AF2(2000-2009)
CFL(1965-1969)
FXFL(2014-2015)
IFL(1999-2000)
IPFL(1999-2001)
PSFL(1991)
UFL(2009-2012)
USFL(1983-1985)
WFL(1974-1975)
XFL(2001)

Did those leagues have an "astounding lack entrepreneurial vision" as well?

07-coffee3

Most of those leagues had a lack of financial backing and were held together by duct tape and wire. They were nothing but a hope and a prayer. Heck, many of these leagues were on such poor financial terms, they couldn't pay their players' salaries. The WFL had players playing for free half the year. They had teams folding overnight, and moving non stop.

While I agree, the AAF has long odds, they have so many things that many of those leagues above did not have. Namely financial backing, solid television deals with CBS, and big time football experience running the show. Look at the names involved in the AAF.

While the AAF probably won't survive more than a few years, if any league is going to survive medium to long term, it's going to be the AAF. More so than the revived XFL.
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RE: UTSA to Share Alamodome With New Pro Team
(06-25-2018 09:14 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(06-23-2018 12:21 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(06-23-2018 08:50 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(06-22-2018 12:54 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(06-22-2018 10:54 AM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  San Antonio was just awarded the newest Alliance pro team. Apparently they will be playing in the dome. Im a little intrigued as I live close to ol San Antone. I may just have to catch a game and see if I like the goods.

http://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/austin/n...ral-season

Catch it while you can because this will be yet another failed league trying to find their niche next to the NFL. Stupid idea, as I really have no idea what the organizers think will make this one different from any of the others that tried and failed. Dumb people who need to learn the hard way.

Your lack of entrepreneurial vision is astounding. A lof of people with your view said the same thing about the AFL back in the 1960's. And look what happened. 07-coffee3

I will bet you any amount of money you wish, any odds you wish, over the rest of time, that neither one of this league or the new XFL will ever catch on beyond the level of arena football, if they make it that far.

You point to the AFL in the 60s, what about:

AAFC(1946-1949)
AFL(1926)
AFL(1936-1937)
AFL(1940)
AFL-Arena Football(1987-2008)
AF2(2000-2009)
CFL(1965-1969)
FXFL(2014-2015)
IFL(1999-2000)
IPFL(1999-2001)
PSFL(1991)
UFL(2009-2012)
USFL(1983-1985)
WFL(1974-1975)
XFL(2001)

Did those leagues have an "astounding lack entrepreneurial vision" as well?

07-coffee3

Most of those leagues had a lack of financial backing and were held together by duct tape and wire. They were nothing but a hope and a prayer. Heck, many of these leagues were on such poor financial terms, they couldn't pay their players' salaries. The WFL had players playing for free half the year. They had teams folding overnight, and moving non stop.

While I agree, the AAF has long odds, they have so many things that many of those leagues above did not have. Namely financial backing, solid television deals with CBS, and big time football experience running the show. Look at the names involved in the AAF.

these teams usually have a hard time making it in S.A. there are few big spending corporations located there to draw support from and only a few deep pocket citizens that are willing to spend the big bucks. Half the city is military or civil service and the other half will not provide a steady stream of folks that will pay 2-300$ to take their family to games, so after the novelty wears off so does the necessary income stream. This has happened every time. the city should just go all out for the road runners instead. as an earlier poster said, there are too many teams as it is.
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clt is all in with the xfl
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RE: UTSA to Share Alamodome With New Pro Team
(06-24-2018 10:38 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(06-24-2018 10:26 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(06-24-2018 10:12 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(06-23-2018 12:21 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(06-23-2018 08:50 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  Your lack of entrepreneurial vision is astounding. A lof of people with your view said the same thing about the AFL back in the 1960's. And look what happened. 07-coffee3

I will bet you any amount of money you wish, any odds you wish, over the rest of time, that neither one of this league or the new XFL will ever catch on beyond the level of arena football, if they make it that far.

You point to the AFL in the 60s, what about:

AAFC(1946-1949)
AFL(1926)
AFL(1936-1937)
AFL(1940)
AFL-Arena Football(1987-2008)
AF2(2000-2009)
CFL(1965-1969)
FXFL(2014-2015)
IFL(1999-2000)
IPFL(1999-2001)
PSFL(1991)
UFL(2009-2012)
USFL(1983-1985)
WFL(1974-1975)
XFL(2001)

Did those leagues have an "astounding lack entrepreneurial vision" as well?

07-coffee3

I knew someone would mention all the football league failures. That's EASY to do. Thank you Captain Obvious!!

[Image: tenor.gif?itemid=5388622]

You proffered one success story as proof that someone had an "astounding lack of entrepreneurial vision", I simply referenced fifteen examples of failure. Starting in the 1920s, there's been at least one failed football league in every decade but the 1950's.

So you can call me captain obvious as an attempt to deflect from your bad argument or you can make a better argument than "this one time a league went up against the NFL and succeeded, pay no mind to these fifteen other leagues!".

You're such a dufus. 03-lmfao

Yes, none of us understand this stuff. It's so complicated. Only YOU are capable of understanding such complicated matters. Please explain it some more. We want you to. 03-lmfao

What are you even talking about?

You seemingly asserted that this new league is going places, but your only argument was the success of one league, while so many others have failed.

Please help this dufus understand why this will work, why this league is particularly similar to the AFL, why you're so confident it will work out, I'm genuinely interested in your insight.

07-coffee3
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RE: UTSA to Share Alamodome With New Pro Team
(06-25-2018 08:25 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(06-24-2018 10:38 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(06-24-2018 10:26 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(06-24-2018 10:12 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(06-23-2018 12:21 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I will bet you any amount of money you wish, any odds you wish, over the rest of time, that neither one of this league or the new XFL will ever catch on beyond the level of arena football, if they make it that far.

You point to the AFL in the 60s, what about:

AAFC(1946-1949)
AFL(1926)
AFL(1936-1937)
AFL(1940)
AFL-Arena Football(1987-2008)
AF2(2000-2009)
CFL(1965-1969)
FXFL(2014-2015)
IFL(1999-2000)
IPFL(1999-2001)
PSFL(1991)
UFL(2009-2012)
USFL(1983-1985)
WFL(1974-1975)
XFL(2001)

Did those leagues have an "astounding lack entrepreneurial vision" as well?

07-coffee3

I knew someone would mention all the football league failures. That's EASY to do. Thank you Captain Obvious!!

[Image: tenor.gif?itemid=5388622]

You proffered one success story as proof that someone had an "astounding lack of entrepreneurial vision", I simply referenced fifteen examples of failure. Starting in the 1920s, there's been at least one failed football league in every decade but the 1950's.

So you can call me captain obvious as an attempt to deflect from your bad argument or you can make a better argument than "this one time a league went up against the NFL and succeeded, pay no mind to these fifteen other leagues!".

You're such a dufus. 03-lmfao

Yes, none of us understand this stuff. It's so complicated. Only YOU are capable of understanding such complicated matters. Please explain it some more. We want you to. 03-lmfao

What are you even talking about?

You seemingly asserted that this new league is going places, but your only argument was the success of one league, while so many others have failed.

Please help this dufus understand why this will work, why this league is particularly similar to the AFL, why you're so confident it will work out, I'm genuinely interested in your insight.

07-coffee3

No, you're genuinely a dumbarse, is what you are. 03-lmfao
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RE: UTSA to Share Alamodome With New Pro Team
(06-25-2018 09:11 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(06-25-2018 08:25 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(06-24-2018 10:38 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(06-24-2018 10:26 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(06-24-2018 10:12 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  I knew someone would mention all the football league failures. That's EASY to do. Thank you Captain Obvious!!

[Image: tenor.gif?itemid=5388622]

You proffered one success story as proof that someone had an "astounding lack of entrepreneurial vision", I simply referenced fifteen examples of failure. Starting in the 1920s, there's been at least one failed football league in every decade but the 1950's.

So you can call me captain obvious as an attempt to deflect from your bad argument or you can make a better argument than "this one time a league went up against the NFL and succeeded, pay no mind to these fifteen other leagues!".

You're such a dufus. 03-lmfao

Yes, none of us understand this stuff. It's so complicated. Only YOU are capable of understanding such complicated matters. Please explain it some more. We want you to. 03-lmfao

What are you even talking about?

You seemingly asserted that this new league is going places, but your only argument was the success of one league, while so many others have failed.

Please help this dufus understand why this will work, why this league is particularly similar to the AFL, why you're so confident it will work out, I'm genuinely interested in your insight.

07-coffee3

No, you're genuinely a dumbarse, is what you are. 03-lmfao

So... that's a no on selling this league you were so quick to defend?
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RE: UTSA to Share Alamodome With New Pro Team
(06-26-2018 12:07 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(06-25-2018 09:11 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(06-25-2018 08:25 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(06-24-2018 10:38 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(06-24-2018 10:26 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  You proffered one success story as proof that someone had an "astounding lack of entrepreneurial vision", I simply referenced fifteen examples of failure. Starting in the 1920s, there's been at least one failed football league in every decade but the 1950's.

So you can call me captain obvious as an attempt to deflect from your bad argument or you can make a better argument than "this one time a league went up against the NFL and succeeded, pay no mind to these fifteen other leagues!".


You're such a dufus. 03-lmfao

Yes, none of us understand this stuff. It's so complicated. Only YOU are capable of understanding such complicated matters. Please explain it some more. We want you to. 03-lmfao

What are you even talking about?

You seemingly asserted that this new league is going places, but your only argument was the success of one league, while so many others have failed.

Please help this dufus understand why this will work, why this league is particularly similar to the AFL, why you're so confident it will work out, I'm genuinely interested in your insight.

07-coffee3

No, you're genuinely a dumbarse, is what you are. 03-lmfao

So... that's a no on selling this league you were so quick to defend?

MTPiKapp....You're that kid in school that when people saw you coming down the hall, the rest of us ducked into a side door just to avoid talking to you. 03-lmfao You rarely catch sarcasm, and you love to lecture folks. You've obviously decided that this sports board is your podium, and that everyone is entitled to be lectured by you, whether they can stand you or not. 07-coffee3

I've said it before and I'll say it again, certain people --like you-- need some quality time away from the board for a while. It would do you some good. And it would do the rest of us a ton of good.03-thumbsup
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Apparently I'm the only one on here that's excited. My only concern is that they're playing games on Saturdays for some reason, and, knowing my luck, every game will overlap perfectly with UAB & Auburn's Saturday games.
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(06-26-2018 11:03 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(06-26-2018 12:07 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(06-25-2018 09:11 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(06-25-2018 08:25 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(06-24-2018 10:38 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  You're such a dufus. 03-lmfao

Yes, none of us understand this stuff. It's so complicated. Only YOU are capable of understanding such complicated matters. Please explain it some more. We want you to. 03-lmfao

What are you even talking about?

You seemingly asserted that this new league is going places, but your only argument was the success of one league, while so many others have failed.

Please help this dufus understand why this will work, why this league is particularly similar to the AFL, why you're so confident it will work out, I'm genuinely interested in your insight.

07-coffee3

No, you're genuinely a dumbarse, is what you are. 03-lmfao

So... that's a no on selling this league you were so quick to defend?

MTPiKapp....You're that kid in school that when people saw you coming down the hall, the rest of us ducked into a side door just to avoid talking to you. 03-lmfao You rarely catch sarcasm, and you love to lecture folks. You've obviously decided that this sports board is your podium, and that everyone is entitled to be lectured by you, whether they can stand you or not. 07-coffee3

I've said it before and I'll say it again, certain people --like you-- need some quality time away from the board for a while. It would do you some good. And it would do the rest of us a ton of good.03-thumbsup

I had a blast and tons of friends all through school, still have a half dozen friends from high school and more than that from college that I keep up with regularly.

I know you're my biggest fan, but at least once ot would be nice for you to support your bad post, rather than resort to ad hominem attacks.

So just to be clear, it was sarcasm all along? Right....

03-lmfao
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(06-26-2018 11:11 AM)Auburn_Blazer Wrote:  Apparently I'm the only one on here that's excited. My only concern is that they're playing games on Saturdays for some reason, and, knowing my luck, every game will overlap perfectly with UAB & Auburn's Saturday games.

I'm somewhat excited about it, mainly because I just want more football and there happens to be a team local to me (San Antonio).

The games are in Feb - Apr. What games of UAB/Auburn would they conflict with other than basketball.
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(06-26-2018 01:29 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(06-26-2018 11:11 AM)Auburn_Blazer Wrote:  Apparently I'm the only one on here that's excited. My only concern is that they're playing games on Saturdays for some reason, and, knowing my luck, every game will overlap perfectly with UAB & Auburn's Saturday games.

I'm somewhat excited about it, mainly because I just want more football and there happens to be a team local to me (San Antonio).

The games are in Feb - Apr. What games of UAB/Auburn would they conflict with other than basketball.

That's what I meant, UAB & Auburn bball games.
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(06-25-2018 09:26 AM)runamuck Wrote:  
(06-25-2018 09:14 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(06-23-2018 12:21 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(06-23-2018 08:50 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(06-22-2018 12:54 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  Catch it while you can because this will be yet another failed league trying to find their niche next to the NFL. Stupid idea, as I really have no idea what the organizers think will make this one different from any of the others that tried and failed. Dumb people who need to learn the hard way.

Your lack of entrepreneurial vision is astounding. A lof of people with your view said the same thing about the AFL back in the 1960's. And look what happened. 07-coffee3

I will bet you any amount of money you wish, any odds you wish, over the rest of time, that neither one of this league or the new XFL will ever catch on beyond the level of arena football, if they make it that far.

You point to the AFL in the 60s, what about:

AAFC(1946-1949)
AFL(1926)
AFL(1936-1937)
AFL(1940)
AFL-Arena Football(1987-2008)
AF2(2000-2009)
CFL(1965-1969)
FXFL(2014-2015)
IFL(1999-2000)
IPFL(1999-2001)
PSFL(1991)
UFL(2009-2012)
USFL(1983-1985)
WFL(1974-1975)
XFL(2001)

Did those leagues have an "astounding lack entrepreneurial vision" as well?

07-coffee3

Most of those leagues had a lack of financial backing and were held together by duct tape and wire. They were nothing but a hope and a prayer. Heck, many of these leagues were on such poor financial terms, they couldn't pay their players' salaries. The WFL had players playing for free half the year. They had teams folding overnight, and moving non stop.

While I agree, the AAF has long odds, they have so many things that many of those leagues above did not have. Namely financial backing, solid television deals with CBS, and big time football experience running the show. Look at the names involved in the AAF.

these teams usually have a hard time making it in S.A. there are few big spending corporations located there to draw support from and only a few deep pocket citizens that are willing to spend the big bucks. Half the city is military or civil service and the other half will not provide a steady stream of folks that will pay 2-300$ to take their family to games, so after the novelty wears off so does the necessary income stream. This has happened every time. the city should just go all out for the road runners instead. as an earlier poster said, there are too many teams as it is.

AAF SA has announced that the most expensive tix will come in at $35.00 per. Now there's a lot that can happen between now and when they finally start selling tickets to the public. But if they stick to that, that's very affordable for most.

At Bobcat stadium, I sit on the 45 yd. line, row 17, lower level seats. Good seats that I'm satisfied with. I've already calculated that at their $35.00 rate, a season of AAF would be cheaper for me than a season at Bobcat stadium. It's not a straight apples to apples comparison, as TXST plays 6 home games to the AAF's announced 5. But still, cost shouldn't be an obstacle to most.

You also neglect to calculate that SA, and the I 35 corridor between SA and Austin have grown significantly since that last SA experiment with Spring football, in other words, more potential butts to buy seats.

While many have "joked" over the years about "Cisneros' folly," I.E. The "Build it and they will Come" Dome. I will say that it's a great venue for football. The noise that a crowd can generate inside that place provides a hellofa homefield advantage. I've enjoyed every game that I've attended there.

With the TV contract, the expertise they've got coming in, coupled with an entertaining product that's affordable to most, the AAF has a shot. And if in the end it goes the way of the Wings, Gunslingers, and Riders . . . well, it's what most expected anyway. In the meantime, I'm gonna enjoy the ride.
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(06-27-2018 10:47 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(06-25-2018 09:26 AM)runamuck Wrote:  
(06-25-2018 09:14 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(06-23-2018 12:21 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(06-23-2018 08:50 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  Your lack of entrepreneurial vision is astounding. A lof of people with your view said the same thing about the AFL back in the 1960's. And look what happened. 07-coffee3

I will bet you any amount of money you wish, any odds you wish, over the rest of time, that neither one of this league or the new XFL will ever catch on beyond the level of arena football, if they make it that far.

You point to the AFL in the 60s, what about:

AAFC(1946-1949)
AFL(1926)
AFL(1936-1937)
AFL(1940)
AFL-Arena Football(1987-2008)
AF2(2000-2009)
CFL(1965-1969)
FXFL(2014-2015)
IFL(1999-2000)
IPFL(1999-2001)
PSFL(1991)
UFL(2009-2012)
USFL(1983-1985)
WFL(1974-1975)
XFL(2001)

Did those leagues have an "astounding lack entrepreneurial vision" as well?

07-coffee3

Most of those leagues had a lack of financial backing and were held together by duct tape and wire. They were nothing but a hope and a prayer. Heck, many of these leagues were on such poor financial terms, they couldn't pay their players' salaries. The WFL had players playing for free half the year. They had teams folding overnight, and moving non stop.

While I agree, the AAF has long odds, they have so many things that many of those leagues above did not have. Namely financial backing, solid television deals with CBS, and big time football experience running the show. Look at the names involved in the AAF.

these teams usually have a hard time making it in S.A. there are few big spending corporations located there to draw support from and only a few deep pocket citizens that are willing to spend the big bucks. Half the city is military or civil service and the other half will not provide a steady stream of folks that will pay 2-300$ to take their family to games, so after the novelty wears off so does the necessary income stream. This has happened every time. the city should just go all out for the road runners instead. as an earlier poster said, there are too many teams as it is.

AAF SA has announced that the most expensive tix will come in at $35.00 per. Now there's a lot that can happen between now and when they finally start selling tickets to the public. But if they stick to that, that's very affordable for most.

At Bobcat stadium, I sit on the 45 yd. line, row 17, lower level seats. Good seats that I'm satisfied with. I've already calculated that at their $35.00 rate, a season of AAF would be cheaper for me than a season at Bobcat stadium. It's not a straight apples to apples comparison, as TXST plays 6 home games to the AAF's announced 5. But still, cost shouldn't be an obstacle to most.

You also neglect to calculate that SA, and the I 35 corridor between SA and Austin have grown significantly since that last SA experiment with Spring football, in other words, more potential butts to buy seats.

While many have "joked" over the years about "Cisneros' folly," I.E. The "Build it and they will Come" Dome. I will say that it's a great venue for football. The noise that a crowd can generate inside that place provides a hellofa homefield advantage. I've enjoyed every game that I've attended there.

With the TV contract, the expertise they've got coming in, coupled with an entertaining product that's affordable to most, the AAF has a shot. And if in the end it goes the way of the Wings, Gunslingers, and Riders . . . well, it's what most expected anyway. In the meantime, I'm gonna enjoy the ride.

Well, not really. What they announced was you can get a quality seat, between the 20's, that could be purchased for 35 bucks. They didn't say that this would be the most expensive seat. If it is, how will they make any money at all.

My guess is they will have a decent amount of sideline lower bowl 35 dollar seats, however seats on the 50s or near it will cost 100 bucks or so. Just a guess.

I do agree that the Alamodome is a GREAT venue for catching a game. This league is much better thought out, planned, and financed than 90% of the failed leagues that came before it. You could get some big names to play in it, that for whatever reason, aren't quite on an NFL roster.

Side note, still can't believe the world league put a team at Bobcat Stadium in San Marcos at one point in time.
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RE: UTSA to Share Alamodome With New Pro Team
(06-27-2018 11:58 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(06-27-2018 10:47 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(06-25-2018 09:26 AM)runamuck Wrote:  
(06-25-2018 09:14 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(06-23-2018 12:21 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I will bet you any amount of money you wish, any odds you wish, over the rest of time, that neither one of this league or the new XFL will ever catch on beyond the level of arena football, if they make it that far.

You point to the AFL in the 60s, what about:

AAFC(1946-1949)
AFL(1926)
AFL(1936-1937)
AFL(1940)
AFL-Arena Football(1987-2008)
AF2(2000-2009)
CFL(1965-1969)
FXFL(2014-2015)
IFL(1999-2000)
IPFL(1999-2001)
PSFL(1991)
UFL(2009-2012)
USFL(1983-1985)
WFL(1974-1975)
XFL(2001)

Did those leagues have an "astounding lack entrepreneurial vision" as well?

07-coffee3

Most of those leagues had a lack of financial backing and were held together by duct tape and wire. They were nothing but a hope and a prayer. Heck, many of these leagues were on such poor financial terms, they couldn't pay their players' salaries. The WFL had players playing for free half the year. They had teams folding overnight, and moving non stop.

While I agree, the AAF has long odds, they have so many things that many of those leagues above did not have. Namely financial backing, solid television deals with CBS, and big time football experience running the show. Look at the names involved in the AAF.

these teams usually have a hard time making it in S.A. there are few big spending corporations located there to draw support from and only a few deep pocket citizens that are willing to spend the big bucks. Half the city is military or civil service and the other half will not provide a steady stream of folks that will pay 2-300$ to take their family to games, so after the novelty wears off so does the necessary income stream. This has happened every time. the city should just go all out for the road runners instead. as an earlier poster said, there are too many teams as it is.

AAF SA has announced that the most expensive tix will come in at $35.00 per. Now there's a lot that can happen between now and when they finally start selling tickets to the public. But if they stick to that, that's very affordable for most.

At Bobcat stadium, I sit on the 45 yd. line, row 17, lower level seats. Good seats that I'm satisfied with. I've already calculated that at their $35.00 rate, a season of AAF would be cheaper for me than a season at Bobcat stadium. It's not a straight apples to apples comparison, as TXST plays 6 home games to the AAF's announced 5. But still, cost shouldn't be an obstacle to most.

You also neglect to calculate that SA, and the I 35 corridor between SA and Austin have grown significantly since that last SA experiment with Spring football, in other words, more potential butts to buy seats.

While many have "joked" over the years about "Cisneros' folly," I.E. The "Build it and they will Come" Dome. I will say that it's a great venue for football. The noise that a crowd can generate inside that place provides a hellofa homefield advantage. I've enjoyed every game that I've attended there.

With the TV contract, the expertise they've got coming in, coupled with an entertaining product that's affordable to most, the AAF has a shot. And if in the end it goes the way of the Wings, Gunslingers, and Riders . . . well, it's what most expected anyway. In the meantime, I'm gonna enjoy the ride.

Well, not really. What they announced was you can get a quality seat, between the 20's, that could be purchased for 35 bucks. They didn't say that this would be the most expensive seat. If it is, how will they make any money at all.

My guess is they will have a decent amount of sideline lower bowl 35 dollar seats, however seats on the 50s or near it will cost 100 bucks or so. Just a guess.

I do agree that the Alamodome is a GREAT venue for catching a game. This league is much better thought out, planned, and financed than 90% of the failed leagues that came before it. You could get some big names to play in it, that for whatever reason, aren't quite on an NFL roster.

Side note, still can't believe the world league put a team at Bobcat Stadium in San Marcos at one point in time.


I stand corrected . . Thanks. 04-bow They are offering "good" side line seats for 35.00. These won't be the least, nor will they be the most expensive. They go on to say that there will be tickets priced for every budget.

Still, sideline seats for 35ish ain't half bad.

The Riders playing at Bobcat stadium occurred (I want to say) in their second year of operation. I actually saw them play up there. The first year they were playing in a high school stadium (SAISD) affectionately known as the rock pile. The old San Antonio Wings also played at Alamo Stadium (Rock Pile).

If memory serves, part of that deal (to play at Bobcat stadium) included some "upgrades" paid for by the World League.
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