Practice 10:

https://twitter.com/ETSUFootball/status/...2750930946

Brock 20 - What commitment hasn't ETSU made to reach the next level? What level are you referring to?

Is there a depth chart out yet? At least a preliminary one?

No. That's generally decided after last scrimmage.

(08-14-2018 10:31 PM)Buc76 Wrote:  Brock 20 - What commitment hasn't ETSU made to reach the next level? What level are you referring to?

I am referring to the commitment ETSU has made to athletics versus the commitment GA Southern, App State and Marshall made to athletics when they were in the SoCon.

Again, please elaborate on what commitment or commitments you feel ETSU is failing to do.

Since the arrival of Dr. Noland and Dr. Sanders, I've seen nothing but total commitment to a first class, top rated University, in both Academics and Athlectics.

As for winning championships or regular seasons, ETSU is far and away better than either App State or Georgia Southern. Granted in football ETSU is behind, but that is the fault of the previous administrations and that is being corrected.

(08-16-2018 08:42 AM)Buc76 Wrote:  Again, please elaborate on what commitment or commitments you feel ETSU is failing to do.

Since the arrival of Dr. Noland and Dr. Sanders, I've seen nothing but total commitment to a first class, top rated University, in both Academics and Athlectics.

As for winning championships or regular seasons, ETSU is far and away better than either App State or Georgia Southern. Granted in football ETSU is behind, but that is the fault of the previous administrations and that is being corrected.

When it comes to college athletics only 2 things matter: football and basketball. Thats it. Nothing else even comes close to moving the needle. So a university needs to be fully committed to making those 2 things as good as they can, even at the cost of the other sports. That is something the previous admin didnt get but this admin seems to understand for the most part.

While I think ETSU has a better vision and understanding of athletics than we had 5 years ago, they still aren't up to where teams like App, Ga Southern and Marshall are (maybe that is not the goal). Those schools (fans, admin, community) have committed to make athletics a priority. ETSU is playing football in a 7k stadium and playing basketball on a middle school campus (and still does not have an outdoor track). I understand things take time but right now, ETSU doesn't have a plan for anything past those things. Until the football stadium gets to over 10k, an on campus arena and outdoor track are built, ETSU still has a ways to go.

Noland has done a fantastic job. We are lucky to have him. Just because I am saying we dont have that "total commitment" like those other schools doesnt mean that things are going well or people arent doing a good job. It just means we aren't there yet. And this goes for the fans and community as well. We just havent committed what it takes to get to where those programs are.

Your are totally in the dark. There is a comprehensive plan for everything you have mentioned.

There is no way, due to lack of funding, that ETSU can address every need for academics or athletics instantly, but by following a prudent and workable plan ( something the previous administrations didn't have ) those needs will be addressed sooner rather than 25 years later.

Your constant belittling of Freedom Hall, the football stadium and your complete disdain for any other sports except football and basketball certainly show your true colors, an uninformed, selfish, self centered individual.

(08-16-2018 11:21 AM)Buc76 Wrote:  Your are totally in the dark. There is a comprehensive plan for everything you have mentioned.

There is no way, due to lack of funding, that ETSU can address every need for academics or athletics instantly, but by following a prudent and workable plan ( something the previous administrations didn't have ) those needs will be addressed sooner rather than 25 years later.

Your constant belittling of Freedom Hall, the football stadium and your complete disdain for any other sports except football and basketball certainly show your true colors, an uninformed, selfish, self centered individual.

I don't know if "disdain" is the right word for how I feel about the other sports. More apathy. I still want them to win, I just don't want them to take resources away from bball or football.

If wanting ETSU to get to the level that App, Marshall and GA Southern are at is "uninformed, selfish, self centered individual" then I'm fine with that. The reality is our athletic facilities for the main 2 sports are lacking. We can go over the reasons all day but until the football stadium has at least 10k "seats" and there is a new arena built we won't be able to get to that next level.

(08-16-2018 11:59 AM)brock20 Wrote:  

(08-16-2018 11:21 AM)Buc76 Wrote:  Your are totally in the dark. There is a comprehensive plan for everything you have mentioned.

There is no way, due to lack of funding, that ETSU can address every need for academics or athletics instantly, but by following a prudent and workable plan ( something the previous administrations didn't have ) those needs will be addressed sooner rather than 25 years later.

Your constant belittling of Freedom Hall, the football stadium and your complete disdain for any other sports except football and basketball certainly show your true colors, an uninformed, selfish, self centered individual.

I don't know if "disdain" is the right word for how I feel about the other sports. More apathy. I still want them to win, I just don't want them to take resources away from bball or football.

If wanting ETSU to get to the level that App, Marshall and GA Southern are at is "uninformed, selfish, self centered individual" then I'm fine with that. The reality is our athletic facilities for the main 2 sports are lacking. We can go over the reasons all day but until the football stadium has at least 10k "seats" and there is a new arena built we won't be able to get to that next level.

Not too long ago I envied App State, Ga Southern and the like. But, even when they’re winning on the football field at the “level” they have reached, it does not appear, at this juncture, to make much difference. Attendance at App State home games has not really grown from their SoCon days. Ga Southern’s home attendance, of recent seasons, seems to be down or stalled. This Sun Belt Conference looks more like a no man’s land for aspiring football programs, similar to the A-Sun for aspiring DI basketball programs. Does their increased athletic budgets justify the return in this era of college athletics? Unless the overall cost of higher education is brought under control, with student debt fixed, then all of college athletics could undergo a radical overhaul.

(08-16-2018 12:39 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  Not too long ago I envied App State, Ga Southern and the like. But, even when they’re winning on the football field at the “level” they have reached, it does not appear, at this juncture, to make much difference. Attendance at App State home games has not really grown from their SoCon days. Ga Southern’s home attendance, of recent seasons, seems to be down or stalled. This Sun Belt Conference looks more like a no man’s land for aspiring football programs, similar to the A-Sun for aspiring DI basketball programs. Does their increased athletic budgets justify the return in this era of college athletics?

That is a good question. I for sure dont have an answer. Thing is we are not even at the level those guys were when they were winning SoCon titles, much less trying to get to FBS. Our facilities are middle of the road in the SoCon.

As you said, it is looking more and more like the Sun Belt is the no man's land of FBS. At some point these schools are going to take a step back and try to realign more geographically by merging and splitting off with other conferences. If the group of 5 would get real with themselves, they would stop trying to compete with the power 5 and combine with FCS. I just hope when all this shuffling comes about that ETSU is in a good spot to land with some of our former peers in a new conference. I think we have the administration and people in place that want to do it.

(08-16-2018 12:48 PM)brock20 Wrote:  

(08-16-2018 12:39 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  Not too long ago I envied App State, Ga Southern and the like. But, even when they’re winning on the football field at the “level” they have reached, it does not appear, at this juncture, to make much difference. Attendance at App State home games has not really grown from their SoCon days. Ga Southern’s home attendance, of recent seasons, seems to be down or stalled. This Sun Belt Conference looks more like a no man’s land for aspiring football programs, similar to the A-Sun for aspiring DI basketball programs. Does their increased athletic budgets justify the return in this era of college athletics?

That is a good question. I for sure dont have an answer. Thing is we are not even at the level those guys were when they were winning SoCon titles, much less trying to get to FBS. Our facilities are middle of the road in the SoCon.

As you said, it is looking more and more like the Sun Belt is the no man's land of FBS. At some point these schools are going to take a step back and try to realign more geographically by merging and splitting off with other conferences. If the group of 5 would get real with themselves, they would stop trying to compete with the power 5 and combine with FCS. I just hope when all this shuffling comes about that ETSU is in a good spot to land with some of our former peers in a new conference. I think we have the administration and people in place that want to do it.

brock20, you lost some credibility with me on this thread. I'm not sure what justifies top facilities in the Socon, but I'm going to tell you we have top facilities in the socon. If you're using mere seating capacity alone to decide that, fine. I think there's much more to it than that. Let's look at them:

Football: Tell me who, other than Mercer and maybe Chattanooga (but they're off campus), has better facilities than us?

Basketball: Wofford has a new arena but much smaller, G and Chatt play in outdated and way over-built arenas, so tell me who has the right size with modern updates like video boards? We certainly aren't at the bottom and not the middle 3 either, so I would say we would be near the top.

(08-17-2018 10:47 AM)Efan Wrote:  brock20, you lost some credibility with me on this thread. I'm not sure what justifies top facilities in the Socon, but I'm going to tell you we have top facilities in the socon. If you're using mere seating capacity alone to decide that, fine. I think there's much more to it than that. Let's look at them:

Football: Tell me who, other than Mercer and maybe Chattanooga (but they're off campus), has better facilities than us?

Basketball: Wofford has a new arena but much smaller, G and Chatt play in outdated and way over-built arenas, so tell me who has the right size with modern updates like video boards? We certainly aren't at the bottom and not the middle 3 either, so I would say we would be near the top.

You make some good points. Saying we are middle of the pack in socon is probably off. I think our facilities are 3rd behind Mercer and Chattanooga. I think our football stadium has the potential to be the best by far once it gets more seating (hopefully upper deck on east side) and the restrooms and concessions built on the south ends.

My main point is getting lost in this thread; someone asked why ETSU and the other publics weren’t dominating like app, southern and Marshall did when they were in the SoCon. The reason is that those schools, right or wrong, had full commitment from the university and did what it took to win even if it meant spending more than they should have. JMU is doing that now.

Bring it on:

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=...m=&src=FCS

(08-18-2018 05:38 AM)Bucc18 Wrote:  Bring it on:

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=...m=&src=FCS

This is why the experts and predictions are wrong about us finishing 8th. For example, they show Drake Powell as a key loss for us, then go on to talk about how our offense will be good because Herink and Powell will be back. Good grief.

Poor reporting, and I’m sure we’re not the only ones.

(08-17-2018 10:34 PM)brock20 Wrote:  

(08-17-2018 10:47 AM)Efan Wrote:  brock20, you lost some credibility with me on this thread. I'm not sure what justifies top facilities in the Socon, but I'm going to tell you we have top facilities in the socon. If you're using mere seating capacity alone to decide that, fine. I think there's much more to it than that. Let's look at them:

Football: Tell me who, other than Mercer and maybe Chattanooga (but they're off campus), has better facilities than us?

Basketball: Wofford has a new arena but much smaller, G and Chatt play in outdated and way over-built arenas, so tell me who has the right size with modern updates like video boards? We certainly aren't at the bottom and not the middle 3 either, so I would say we would be near the top.

You make some good points. Saying we are middle of the pack in socon is probably off. I think our facilities are 3rd behind Mercer and Chattanooga. I think our football stadium has the potential to be the best by far once it gets more seating (hopefully upper deck on east side) and the restrooms and concessions built on the south ends.

My main point is getting lost in this thread; someone asked why ETSU and the other publics weren’t dominating like app, southern and Marshall did when they were in the SoCon. The reason is that those schools, right or wrong, had full commitment from the university and did what it took to win even if it meant spending more than they should have. JMU is doing that now.

I’m not saying we’re in the middle of the pack, I think we have some of the best facilities in the SoCon.

I agree about winning. Basketball is doing that, and football needs to start. We should’ve taken more jucos than we did initially. Kennesaw State has proven that. If we don’t start winning more this year and next, folks will start getting very restless. You just have to be careful not to put winning in front of the rules or doing what’s right.

Another SoCon preview:

http://www.soconsports.com/ViewArticle.d...=211768419

http://www.soconsports.com/ViewArticle.d...=211768569

2nd scrimmage:

https://www.wjhl.com/sports/etsu-s-offen...1381150741

http://www.etsubucs.com/football/news/20...um=twitter

(08-18-2018 11:33 PM)Bucc18 Wrote:  2nd scrimmage:

https://www.wjhl.com/sports/etsu-s-offen...1381150741

http://www.etsubucs.com/football/news/20...um=twitter

6 carries, 118 yards, and 2 TD's? And he's been on offense exactly a week?

This kid is not a newbie to offense.

4yr starter...4100yds rushing..74 TD's..18 INT's

Sr yr...126 carries..1800yds..36 TD's

3-Time All-State