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Trump to sign order to keep illegal immigrant fams together
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In before dems claim larger cages.
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(06-20-2018 11:12 AM)shere khan Wrote:  https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/20/trump-sa...ether.html

In before dems claim larger cages.

Lets see the EO. I suspect they'll be something in it for his 4chan racist homies. But we shall see. Under no circumstances should Trump receive much credit for stopping an inhumane policy HE arbitrarily created.
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(06-20-2018 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:12 AM)shere khan Wrote:  https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/20/trump-sa...ether.html

In before dems claim larger cages.

Lets see the EO. I suspect they'll be something in it for his 4chan racist homies. But we shall see. Under no circumstances should Trump receive much credit for stopping an inhumane policy HE arbitrarily created.

lol, no matter what it is the left will criticize something.
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(06-20-2018 11:19 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:12 AM)shere khan Wrote:  https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/20/trump-sa...ether.html

In before dems claim larger cages.

Lets see the EO. I suspect they'll be something in it for his 4chan racist homies. But we shall see. Under no circumstances should Trump receive much credit for stopping an inhumane policy HE arbitrarily created.

lol, no matter what it is the left will criticize something.

Yes, we are absolutely correct to criticize Trump's original policies that created this mess in the first place. You don't commit crimes against humanity and then get to say 'oopsie'. Its not how this works.
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Trump with the money shot all over liberalism's face.
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(06-20-2018 11:21 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:19 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:12 AM)shere khan Wrote:  https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/20/trump-sa...ether.html

In before dems claim larger cages.

Lets see the EO. I suspect they'll be something in it for his 4chan racist homies. But we shall see. Under no circumstances should Trump receive much credit for stopping an inhumane policy HE arbitrarily created.

lol, no matter what it is the left will criticize something.

Yes, we are absolutely correct to criticize Trump's original policies that created this mess in the first place. You don't commit crimes against humanity and then get to say 'oopsie'. Its not how this works.
Yea but you forget they broke the law.
A plan was offered months ago and the Dems walked away just like last night.

This actually looks worse on the left because you're stomping and running away from the table isn't working.
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(06-20-2018 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:12 AM)shere khan Wrote:  https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/20/trump-sa...ether.html

In before dems claim larger cages.

Lets see the EO. I suspect they'll be something in it for his 4chan racist homies. But we shall see. Under no circumstances should Trump receive much credit for stopping an inhumane policy HE arbitrarily created.

And thats why he should never let the media move his postion. It doesnt matter what he did or that Obama did the same thing. The lefty media and its extreme minions are just hate filled people who still cant cope with the 2016 election result. Trump will never gain their favor---so why even treat their demands seriously? Rule like Obama. Tell the opposition to get to sit down, shut up, and enjoy the ride.

Now---watch some lefty court block the action for violating an existing federally mandated court ruling.
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(06-20-2018 11:19 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:12 AM)shere khan Wrote:  https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/20/trump-sa...ether.html

In before dems claim larger cages.

Lets see the EO. I suspect they'll be something in it for his 4chan racist homies. But we shall see. Under no circumstances should Trump receive much credit for stopping an inhumane policy HE arbitrarily created.

lol, no matter what it is the left will criticize something.

True.

They'll criticize anything and everything until someone caves and just allows wretch to just walk in, no questions asked.
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(06-20-2018 11:21 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:19 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:12 AM)shere khan Wrote:  https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/20/trump-sa...ether.html

In before dems claim larger cages.

Lets see the EO. I suspect they'll be something in it for his 4chan racist homies. But we shall see. Under no circumstances should Trump receive much credit for stopping an inhumane policy HE arbitrarily created.

lol, no matter what it is the left will criticize something.

Yes, we are absolutely correct to criticize Trump's original policies that created this mess in the first place. You don't commit crimes against humanity and then get to say 'oopsie'. Its not how this works.

Really?

With all the killings that go on in every large city every weekend just in this country and you choose keeping CRIMINALS from their kids as a crime against humanity?

ESPECIALLY when it's their own damn fault?

Either you set the bar painfully low or your lips are red from drinking all that kool-aid.....
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(06-20-2018 11:21 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:19 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:12 AM)shere khan Wrote:  https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/20/trump-sa...ether.html

In before dems claim larger cages.

Lets see the EO. I suspect they'll be something in it for his 4chan racist homies. But we shall see. Under no circumstances should Trump receive much credit for stopping an inhumane policy HE arbitrarily created.

lol, no matter what it is the left will criticize something.

Yes, we are absolutely correct to criticize Trump's original policies that created this mess in the first place. You don't commit crimes against humanity and then get to say 'oopsie'. Its not how this works.

No, ThIS is a crime against humanity.

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(06-20-2018 11:27 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:21 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:19 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:12 AM)shere khan Wrote:  https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/20/trump-sa...ether.html

In before dems claim larger cages.

Lets see the EO. I suspect they'll be something in it for his 4chan racist homies. But we shall see. Under no circumstances should Trump receive much credit for stopping an inhumane policy HE arbitrarily created.

lol, no matter what it is the left will criticize something.

Yes, we are absolutely correct to criticize Trump's original policies that created this mess in the first place. You don't commit crimes against humanity and then get to say 'oopsie'. Its not how this works.

Really?

With all the killings that go on in every large city every weekend just in this country and you choose keeping CRIMINALS from their kids as a crime against humanity?

ESPECIALLY when it's their own damn fault?

Either you set the bar painfully low or your lips are red from drinking all that kool-aid.....

Left hasn't given a damn about personal responsibility in decades.
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(06-20-2018 11:21 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:19 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:12 AM)shere khan Wrote:  https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/20/trump-sa...ether.html

In before dems claim larger cages.

Lets see the EO. I suspect they'll be something in it for his 4chan racist homies. But we shall see. Under no circumstances should Trump receive much credit for stopping an inhumane policy HE arbitrarily created.

lol, no matter what it is the left will criticize something.

Yes, we are absolutely correct to criticize Trump's original policies that created this mess in the first place. You don't commit crimes against humanity and then get to say 'oopsie'. Its not how this works.

Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama created this mess.

And to some extent Ronald Reagan by giving citizenship in his immigration reform in the 80s (which I thought was an excellent idea at the time).
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(06-20-2018 11:23 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:21 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:19 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:12 AM)shere khan Wrote:  https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/20/trump-sa...ether.html

In before dems claim larger cages.

Lets see the EO. I suspect they'll be something in it for his 4chan racist homies. But we shall see. Under no circumstances should Trump receive much credit for stopping an inhumane policy HE arbitrarily created.

lol, no matter what it is the left will criticize something.

Yes, we are absolutely correct to criticize Trump's original policies that created this mess in the first place. You don't commit crimes against humanity and then get to say 'oopsie'. Its not how this works.
Yea but you forget they broke the law.
A plan was offered months ago and the Dems walked away just like last night.

This actually looks worse on the left because you're stomping and running away from the table isn't working.


They were induced to break the law by DJT's policy of shutting down legal entry points for asylum seekers.

A plan that encouraged hostage taking was offered. No, we aren't voting for a removal of asylum laws for women, LGBTs, and persons of color. No we aren't voting for a stupid wall. No matter how much you abuse kids in order to try to force it. DACA recipients should have a path to citizenship in the only country they've ever known.

Creating a crisis shouldn't be rewarded. Trump created this crisis. He's just trying to limit the damage. But I'm sure there will be something in it for the racist trolls he implemented this unconscionable policy in the first place.

Charlottesville
Mexicans are rapists
Muslim bans
Attacks on Transpersons
Slavish support for human rights abusers
Central Park 5
Birtherism
Attacks on the physically disabled
Support for discrimination against LGBT persons
Appointing bigots to the Federal Bench
Kizhr Khan
Support for Tony Perkins
Endorsing Roy Moore
Bragging about sexually assaulting women
Emoluments
The most corrupt Administration in US history, and its not even close.

Look, there's no 3d chess going on here. He is a crass, self serving bigot. And all of his remaining supporters can't claim that 'he really isn't like that'. You stay with him, you're endorsing everything he does now.

And there's another facet of Trumpism. He's such a selfish tool that just about everyone that helps him ends up in a worse position.

So, if he decides he can't get away with putting 3 year olds in dog kennels for the time being, that's just going to kick this down the road until the next outrage. And with his Administration largely composed of bigots, racists, grifters, and incompetents of the rankist order, its only a matter of time before another Trump created crisis develops.
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This "crisis" has been created by the media. It happened under Barack Obama. Even Democrat Henry Cuellar said it was swept under the rug when Obama did it.
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(06-20-2018 11:49 AM)bullet Wrote:  This "crisis" has been created by the media. It happened under Barack Obama. Even Democrat Henry Cuellar said it was swept under the rug when Obama did it.

Obama didn't create the 2014 situation. Trump CREATED the 2018 situation with his new policy of separating toddlers from parents for misdemenors, then induced lawbreaking by shutting down access to legal points of entry for asylum seekers. Obama didn't direct DHS or CBP or ICE to rip toddlers away from parents. Nor did he attempt, like Trump did, to use the suffering of kids due to his policies in order to remove protections for kids.

Again, the CBP blocking/limiting access to legal entry points is a critical point and one you've not dealt with.
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(06-20-2018 12:01 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:49 AM)bullet Wrote:  This "crisis" has been created by the media. It happened under Barack Obama. Even Democrat Henry Cuellar said it was swept under the rug when Obama did it.

Obama didn't create the 2014 situation. Trump CREATED the 2018 situation with his new policy of separating toddlers from parents for misdemenors, then induced lawbreaking by shutting down access to legal points of entry for asylum seekers. Obama didn't direct DHS or CBP or ICE to rip toddlers away from parents. Nor did he attempt, like Trump did, to use the suffering of kids due to his policies in order to remove protections for kids.

Again, the CBP blocking/limiting access to legal entry points is a critical point and one you've not dealt with.
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(06-20-2018 11:47 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:23 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:21 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:19 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Lets see the EO. I suspect they'll be something in it for his 4chan racist homies. But we shall see. Under no circumstances should Trump receive much credit for stopping an inhumane policy HE arbitrarily created.

lol, no matter what it is the left will criticize something.

Yes, we are absolutely correct to criticize Trump's original policies that created this mess in the first place. You don't commit crimes against humanity and then get to say 'oopsie'. Its not how this works.
Yea but you forget they broke the law.
A plan was offered months ago and the Dems walked away just like last night.

This actually looks worse on the left because you're stomping and running away from the table isn't working.


They were induced to break the law by DJT's policy of shutting down legal entry points for asylum seekers.

A plan that encouraged hostage taking was offered. No, we aren't voting for a removal of asylum laws for women, LGBTs, and persons of color. No we aren't voting for a stupid wall. No matter how much you abuse kids in order to try to force it. DACA recipients should have a path to citizenship in the only country they've ever known.

Creating a crisis shouldn't be rewarded. Trump created this crisis. He's just trying to limit the damage. But I'm sure there will be something in it for the racist trolls he implemented this unconscionable policy in the first place.

Charlottesville
Mexicans are rapists
Muslim bans
Attacks on Transpersons
Slavish support for human rights abusers
Central Park 5
Birtherism
Attacks on the physically disabled
Support for discrimination against LGBT persons
Appointing bigots to the Federal Bench
Kizhr Khan
Support for Tony Perkins
Endorsing Roy Moore
Bragging about sexually assaulting women
Emoluments
The most corrupt Administration in US history, and its not even close.

Look, there's no 3d chess going on here. He is a crass, self serving bigot. And all of his remaining supporters can't claim that 'he really isn't like that'. You stay with him, you're endorsing everything he does now.

And there's another facet of Trumpism. He's such a selfish tool that just about everyone that helps him ends up in a worse position.

So, if he decides he can't get away with putting 3 year olds in dog kennels for the time being, that's just going to kick this down the road until the next outrage. And with his Administration largely composed of bigots, racists, grifters, and incompetents of the rankist order, its only a matter of time before another Trump created crisis develops.

Jesus dude. On some issues you offer cogent and reasonable debate. On some---you are simply too wild eyed and hate filled to even engage. 04-cheers
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(06-20-2018 11:47 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:23 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:21 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:19 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Lets see the EO. I suspect they'll be something in it for his 4chan racist homies. But we shall see. Under no circumstances should Trump receive much credit for stopping an inhumane policy HE arbitrarily created.

lol, no matter what it is the left will criticize something.

Yes, we are absolutely correct to criticize Trump's original policies that created this mess in the first place. You don't commit crimes against humanity and then get to say 'oopsie'. Its not how this works.
Yea but you forget they broke the law.
A plan was offered months ago and the Dems walked away just like last night.

This actually looks worse on the left because you're stomping and running away from the table isn't working.


They were induced to break the law by DJT's policy of shutting down legal entry points for asylum seekers.

A plan that encouraged hostage taking was offered. No, we aren't voting for a removal of asylum laws for women, LGBTs, and persons of color. No we aren't voting for a stupid wall. No matter how much you abuse kids in order to try to force it. DACA recipients should have a path to citizenship in the only country they've ever known.

Creating a crisis shouldn't be rewarded. Trump created this crisis. He's just trying to limit the damage. But I'm sure there will be something in it for the racist trolls he implemented this unconscionable policy in the first place.

Charlottesville
Mexicans are rapists
Muslim bans
Attacks on Transpersons
Slavish support for human rights abusers
Central Park 5
Birtherism
Attacks on the physically disabled
Support for discrimination against LGBT persons
Appointing bigots to the Federal Bench
Kizhr Khan
Support for Tony Perkins
Endorsing Roy Moore
Bragging about sexually assaulting women
Emoluments
The most corrupt Administration in US history, and its not even close.

Look, there's no 3d chess going on here. He is a crass, self serving bigot. And all of his remaining supporters can't claim that 'he really isn't like that'. You stay with him, you're endorsing everything he does now.

And there's another facet of Trumpism. He's such a selfish tool that just about everyone that helps him ends up in a worse position.

So, if he decides he can't get away with putting 3 year olds in dog kennels for the time being, that's just going to kick this down the road until the next outrage. And with his Administration largely composed of bigots, racists, grifters, and incompetents of the rankist order, its only a matter of time before another Trump created crisis develops.

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(06-20-2018 12:05 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:47 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:23 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:21 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:19 AM)VA49er Wrote:  lol, no matter what it is the left will criticize something.

Yes, we are absolutely correct to criticize Trump's original policies that created this mess in the first place. You don't commit crimes against humanity and then get to say 'oopsie'. Its not how this works.
Yea but you forget they broke the law.
A plan was offered months ago and the Dems walked away just like last night.

This actually looks worse on the left because you're stomping and running away from the table isn't working.


They were induced to break the law by DJT's policy of shutting down legal entry points for asylum seekers.

A plan that encouraged hostage taking was offered. No, we aren't voting for a removal of asylum laws for women, LGBTs, and persons of color. No we aren't voting for a stupid wall. No matter how much you abuse kids in order to try to force it. DACA recipients should have a path to citizenship in the only country they've ever known.

Creating a crisis shouldn't be rewarded. Trump created this crisis. He's just trying to limit the damage. But I'm sure there will be something in it for the racist trolls he implemented this unconscionable policy in the first place.

Charlottesville
Mexicans are rapists
Muslim bans
Attacks on Transpersons
Slavish support for human rights abusers
Central Park 5
Birtherism
Attacks on the physically disabled
Support for discrimination against LGBT persons
Appointing bigots to the Federal Bench
Kizhr Khan
Support for Tony Perkins
Endorsing Roy Moore
Bragging about sexually assaulting women
Emoluments
The most corrupt Administration in US history, and its not even close.

Look, there's no 3d chess going on here. He is a crass, self serving bigot. And all of his remaining supporters can't claim that 'he really isn't like that'. You stay with him, you're endorsing everything he does now.

And there's another facet of Trumpism. He's such a selfish tool that just about everyone that helps him ends up in a worse position.

So, if he decides he can't get away with putting 3 year olds in dog kennels for the time being, that's just going to kick this down the road until the next outrage. And with his Administration largely composed of bigots, racists, grifters, and incompetents of the rankist order, its only a matter of time before another Trump created crisis develops.

Jesus dude. On some issues you offer cogent and reasonable debate. On some---you are simply too wild eyed and hate filled to even engage. 04-cheers

I'm not the one putting kids in dog kennels because their mother committed and induced misdemenor

I'm not celebrating GOP officials saying Womp, Womp, in response to a 10 year old developmentally disabled kid being ripped from his parent

I'm not ignoring the humanity of those fleeing harm in Central America and Mexico

I'm not doing any of that. You can find all of that, just this morning.

But I will, at times, respond to it. Again, you can't support Trump and pretend he isn't what he is. You might not like getting called out on it, but there it is.
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