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RE: CAA MBB Tournament moving to DC in 2020.
This is awful.
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RE: CAA MBB Tournament moving to DC in 2020.
For those that live near DC, fill us in on the area around the arena.

Based on the comments I did some quick research for crime stats. It looks like Ward 8 is worse than The federal government ward 2 as expected, but it is better than other wards in DC.

I’ve never been to that part of DC. Is it the armpit?
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It is not better than other wards. I volunteer down there often. Going there past dark is a no go
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(06-18-2018 01:25 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  For those that live near DC, fill us in on the area around the arena.

Based on the comments I did some quick research for crime stats. It looks like Ward 8 is worse than The federal government ward 2 as expected, but it is better than other wards in DC.

I’ve never been to that part of DC. Is it the armpit?

There's a reason you haven't been there - nobody holds events there.
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(06-18-2018 02:56 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  
(06-18-2018 01:25 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  For those that live near DC, fill us in on the area around the arena.

Based on the comments I did some quick research for crime stats. It looks like Ward 8 is worse than The federal government ward 2 as expected, but it is better than other wards in DC.

I’ve never been to that part of DC. Is it the armpit?

There's a reason you haven't been there - nobody holds events there.

And there is a reason nobody holds events there.
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RE: CAA MBB Tournament moving to DC in 2020.
(06-18-2018 02:56 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  
(06-18-2018 01:25 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  For those that live near DC, fill us in on the area around the arena.

Based on the comments I did some quick research for crime stats. It looks like Ward 8 is worse than The federal government ward 2 as expected, but it is better than other wards in DC.

I’ve never been to that part of DC. Is it the armpit?

There's a reason you haven't been there - nobody holds events there.

And there is a reason nobody holds events there.
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(06-18-2018 10:06 AM)tke75hawk Wrote:  This uncw fan will not be going .the only time I would travel north of Richmond would be for ncaa tournament

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(06-18-2018 05:25 AM)Potomac Wrote:  
(06-17-2018 10:05 PM)olddawg Wrote:  No getting around it. At least Richmond Coliseum, Baltimore Arena and the North Charleston Arena felt big time, even if the CAA doesn't fill them anymore. This is worse than some low majors conference finals.

I feel like at this point, host it at the venue of the #1 seed each year on campus, or the previous season’s #1 regular season seed if they need more time for the logistics of planning.
This is what the America East and I think patriot league does. We’re kidding ourselves if we think we’re higher up the rung than those basketball conferences.

Yep, what's sad is this makes the CUSA tourney setup look good in comparison.

Joey's nugget of the day "One of the biggest misnomers is that attendance determines the success of the tournament."

WTF? He thinks a smaller turnout in a ghetto area = SUCCESS!
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RE: CAA MBB Tournament moving to DC in 2020.
Sadly, I don’t really care. It will be 40 minutes away and I still might not go.

Maybe the new stadium will increase my interest in the near future.

Been considering getting season tickets for the new arena, but I just don’t feel it. Over a 10+ year span I saw a ton of bad basketball, and have not seen any improvement the last 5 years since I stepped away imho.

Basketball was my co interest for the longest time, but...

Of course the departing rivals has not helped either.

Bye GMU, ODU, & VCU
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(06-18-2018 04:01 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  
(06-18-2018 05:25 AM)Potomac Wrote:  
(06-17-2018 10:05 PM)olddawg Wrote:  No getting around it. At least Richmond Coliseum, Baltimore Arena and the North Charleston Arena felt big time, even if the CAA doesn't fill them anymore. This is worse than some low majors conference finals.

I feel like at this point, host it at the venue of the #1 seed each year on campus, or the previous season’s #1 regular season seed if they need more time for the logistics of planning.
This is what the America East and I think patriot league does. We’re kidding ourselves if we think we’re higher up the rung than those basketball conferences.

Yep, what's sad is this makes the CUSA tourney setup look good in comparison.

Joey's nugget of the day "One of the biggest misnomers is that attendance determines the success of the tournament."

WTF? He thinks a smaller turnout in a ghetto area = SUCCESS!

Joey probably defines success as one team winning the Tournament and getting invited to the NCAA tourney.
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The CAA wrote a pretty lengthy article on the new tourney site. One thing that stands out to me is the quote, “In addition, there are numerous hotel options within a short distance of the facility.”

I don’t see any nearby options. The closest is 4 miles away at the Nats Park. I also don’t see any watering holes. 03-hissyfit

The next question - how much did the CAA pay for the arena rental?

http://caasports.com/news/2018/6/18/caa-...-2020.aspx
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(06-18-2018 12:03 PM)JMUETC Wrote:  
(06-18-2018 09:54 AM)jjthebutcher Wrote:  Agree 100% nation
(06-18-2018 07:50 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  
(06-18-2018 05:38 AM)jjthebutcher Wrote:  This will look like a joke on TV and will be a joke to DC area non CAA fans. Joey Ds comments are awful. At the very least he is in over his head.

I have spoken with Joey D. IMO he thinks his comments and thinking are just those of a guy being realistic. One could argue he is right. For my taste, I would prefer a commissioner who sets the bar above where the league is and then sells it to the point where he has everyone who matters believing what he says.

We joke about the AAC not being P6 but I like that the commissioner puts it out there and is selling it. At some point, the conference either meets the goal or it goes away. At the very least, you get all the member schools striving to be something more than being realistic.

Yep. Also agree. I feel like it’s a continuation of the Yeager attitude.

The CAA had two final four teams and record attendance during his tenure. There was a legitimate TV contract. Noteable NCAA tournament success even beyond the final four participation with the first 15 seed to beat a #2. There was Navy in the elite 8 and a couple of sweet 16 appearances from other schools too. Our best teams and coaches were picked off by larger schools in higher profile conferences.

How can anyone complain about CAA basketball under Yeager? He built the league up against some very tough odds and got out while the getting was good.
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I think you guys need to keep a few things in mind here

1) The first game in DC will be in March of 2020. That is 21 months away. I know folks have said that the area where this new arena will be isn't great with nothing there. They said the same for the area where the Nats play when it first went up. Is it crazy to think that by March of 2020 that the area will be improved with more development and certainly by 2021 and 2022.

2) I've heard fans complain now about the last 4 CAAT venues- Richmond- old arena, unfair for VCU, Baltimore- old arena not the best section of Baltimore, Charleston- too far South/inconvenient not the best part of Charleston. I like that it is coming back to DC but for those who clamor for the good old days I think you will continue to see the CAA move the tourney around and moving to a more central location and a bigger media market is IMO as good thing.

3) Is the CAAT as big a deal as during the VCU GMU ODU days of years past- no but let's not go overboard and relegate the CAA to a low major mindset of hosting the final on campus like the Patriot league does. Last time I checked the CAA despite the lack of cache is clearly among the top of the mid major leagues in terms of RPI, etc. The same fans who would complain about the risk of empty seats on TV are those now complaining about a smaller capacity arena. Either way the league final always shows well on TV relative to other mid major championship games.

The press coverage of the announcement has by in large been favorable. Very few are focused on where in DC but moreso that it's in DC. Give it a chance before you start threatening not to attend.
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(06-18-2018 09:09 AM)jmufbs Wrote:  
(06-18-2018 07:54 AM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  Tdenverfan, literally anywhere but the most violent neighborhood in DC.

4200 sounds about right, with about 6,000 travelling to SE DC at night, i expect we will have about a 30 % attrition rate due to muggings between the parking lots and the gym.

Seriously? I've worked there at night. It's not great, but 30% is, oh come on. You make it sound like it's a war zone, and if you're so afraid of being around black people, just stay home and watch it on your iPad.
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(06-18-2018 01:25 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  For those that live near DC, fill us in on the area around the arena.

Based on the comments I did some quick research for crime stats. It looks like Ward 8 is worse than The federal government ward 2 as expected, but it is better than other wards in DC.

I’ve never been to that part of DC. Is it the armpit?

Its not all doom and gloom as some people who live in the suburbs would make you think. EOR (East Of [the Anacostia] River) is the next big development area for DC once NOMA and the Wharf get built out with gentrification already taking hold in Anacostia and other neighborhoods.

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"The residential development follows the construction of the $65M Washington Wizards and Mystics practice facility on the site, which sits near the Congress Heights Metro station. The city has also spent about $58M in infrastructure upgrades, expected to be completed in September along with the athletic facility.

The long-term plan for the campus calls for 1.8M SF of office, 1,300 residential units, 206K SF of retail and at least two hotels."

Read more at: https://www.bisnow.com/washington-dc/new...um=Browser


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Theyve been talking about that development for ten years. That neighborhood is still terrible. And it will be in two years.

Also, way to play the race card. Super cool, guy.
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Nats Park was once not the best area and now it’s becoming a very nice part of DC. This won’t be as big because there isn’t a major pro sports team attracting people there but I’m all in favor of the city investing in improving some of its neighborhoods.
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The Nats play 81 home games a year plus potential playoff games. This brings millions of people to the area. Harder for crime to occur when there is 20-40,000 people flowing through the area at night. This arena will not bring that type of crowd volume. I have driven through the area during the day. It is rough. I would not walk through it at night.

8000 seat arena is the perfect size. 4200 just sounds crazy. If JMU is a top six school, we will bring a crowd. DC is close to all of our large alumni population areas. We would fill Cap One arena for finals.
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(06-18-2018 12:49 PM)jmuduke10 Wrote:  This is awful.

Respectfully disagree. If folks are walking miles to the venue and see a crack house and decide "hey, let's go over there and hang out to see what those guys are up to", then maybe - and I just say "maybe" mind you - it could lead to an "awful" situation. Otherwise, all the hand-wringing over this seems premature and void of common sense.

(visions of Otter, Boone and the pledges heading into the roadside bar where they see Otis Day & The Knights)

Get a cab and drop off right at the arena. What's the big deal?

Some good things I see in this...

1. Lots of JMU faithful within easy driving distance to fill the place up and make it a sea of purple. Just hoping Rowe has the program firing on all cylinders by 2020, which will be Lewis and Company's junior year (I'm optimistic).

2. Easy bus ride up and back for JMU students - like they did at Richmond when we last won the CAAT in '13.

Of course, if I were commish, the CAAT would be in Vegas. I luuuuuuuv that town.

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