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(06-10-2018 10:03 PM)flair6 Wrote:  38th and ahead of LSU and Oregon!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc...586148002/
We are overrated.
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(06-11-2018 02:51 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
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(06-11-2018 10:06 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  The number and quality of home games determines fan support. We have a total of 5 home games, including 1 OOC (Utah). How many home games does Toledo have?

Toledo usually has 6 home games. This year 7, because the U Miami game was moved to 2018 so the Canes could play @FAU in 2015. Rockets usually schedule an FCS opponent for a home opener. As a fan, I would just as soon see a big name money road game in its place if it helps maintain/grow the program.
I think NIU has a pretty strong home schedule with no really bad teams coming to DeKalb- Utah(PAC 12), CMU, Ohio U, Toledo, Miami U.

Isn’t Toledo breaking in a new QB this year?

As a matter of fact, they are. We'll be waiting. 05-mafia

https://athlonsports.com/college-footbal...prediction

Quote:Junior Mitchell Guadagni is battling sophomore Eli Peters for the quarterback job, but experience is sorely lacking (a combined one career completion).

They failed to mention Mitch ran the FB 8 times for 9.5 yds per carry average.03-shhhh

An unproven QB at Toledo is a good thing for us.....
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(06-11-2018 06:48 AM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  Good to see the respect, but I think it's a bit too optimistic.

Why is that? Almost every major publication has NIU finishing #1 or #2 in the MAC this upcoming season. NIU is returning the majority of a team that was a few plays away from having a 10-2 season. If anything, they should be significantly improved overall for this season. The only downfall is the tough schedule but if they can somehow escape winning 1 or 2 of those, they should easily win 8-9 games this year.

We're always a few plays away from having a better record, so are many other teams. We got destroyed in the bowl game by a 6-6 Duke team. It wasn't even a competitive game. We are more likely to go 0-4 in non-conference than go 2-2. We won't get through the MAC schedule undefeated so we are likely looking at 9 wins as the ceiling and 5 wins as the bottom. Our offense needs to be dramatically better at putting points on the board. Replicating the success we had on defense last year is not going to be easy either.
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(06-11-2018 06:32 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  
(06-11-2018 02:51 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
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(06-11-2018 12:44 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  
(06-11-2018 10:44 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Toledo usually has 6 home games. This year 7, because the U Miami game was moved to 2018 so the Canes could play @FAU in 2015. Rockets usually schedule an FCS opponent for a home opener. As a fan, I would just as soon see a big name money road game in its place if it helps maintain/grow the program.
I think NIU has a pretty strong home schedule with no really bad teams coming to DeKalb- Utah(PAC 12), CMU, Ohio U, Toledo, Miami U.

Isn’t Toledo breaking in a new QB this year?

As a matter of fact, they are. We'll be waiting. 05-mafia

https://athlonsports.com/college-footbal...prediction

Quote:Junior Mitchell Guadagni is battling sophomore Eli Peters for the quarterback job, but experience is sorely lacking (a combined one career completion).

They failed to mention Mitch ran the FB 8 times for 9.5 yds per carry average.03-shhhh

An unproven QB at Toledo is a good thing for us.....


Except that we all know that Toledo recruits top notch world class studs.
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RE: USA Today rankings
(06-11-2018 07:04 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(06-11-2018 06:32 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  
(06-11-2018 02:51 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(06-11-2018 01:00 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  
(06-11-2018 12:44 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  Isn’t Toledo breaking in a new QB this year?

As a matter of fact, they are. We'll be waiting. 05-mafia

https://athlonsports.com/college-footbal...prediction

Quote:Junior Mitchell Guadagni is battling sophomore Eli Peters for the quarterback job, but experience is sorely lacking (a combined one career completion).

They failed to mention Mitch ran the FB 8 times for 9.5 yds per carry average.03-shhhh

An unproven QB at Toledo is a good thing for us.....


Except that we all know that Toledo recruits top notch world class studs.

Trying to get there. Cincinnati with the Top 2018 G5 signing class was barely in the Top 50 @#47. G5 is still G5. MAC West teams had 3 of the 4 best 2018 recruiting classes in the Conference.
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(06-11-2018 06:32 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  
(06-11-2018 02:51 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
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(06-11-2018 12:44 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  [quote='Boca Rocket' pid='15339059' dateline='1528731869']

Toledo usually has 6 home games. This year 7, because the U Miami game was moved to 2018 so the Canes could play @FAU in 2015. Rockets usually schedule an FCS opponent for a home opener. As a fan, I would just as soon see a big name money road game in its place if it helps maintain/grow the program.
I think NIU has a pretty strong home schedule with no really bad teams coming to DeKalb- Utah(PAC 12), CMU, Ohio U, Toledo, Miami U.

Isn’t Toledo breaking in a new QB this year?

As a matter of fact, they are. We'll be waiting. 05-mafia

https://athlonsports.com/college-footbal...prediction

Quote:Junior Mitchell Guadagni is battling sophomore Eli Peters for the quarterback job, but experience is sorely lacking (a combined one career completion).

They failed to mention Mitch ran the FB 8 times for 9.5 yds per carry average.03-shhhh

An unproven QB at Toledo is a good thing for us.....
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Except he'll probably have 9 starts by the time the Rockets travel to DeKalb.
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(06-12-2018 09:09 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(06-11-2018 06:32 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  
(06-11-2018 02:51 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(06-11-2018 01:00 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  
(06-11-2018 12:44 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  [quote='Boca Rocket' pid='15339059' dateline='1528731869']

Toledo usually has 6 home games. This year 7, because the U Miami game was moved to 2018 so the Canes could play @FAU in 2015. Rockets usually schedule an FCS opponent for a home opener. As a fan, I would just as soon see a big name money road game in its place if it helps maintain/grow the program.
I think NIU has a pretty strong home schedule with no really bad teams coming to DeKalb- Utah(PAC 12), CMU, Ohio U, Toledo, Miami U.

Isn’t Toledo breaking in a new QB this year?

As a matter of fact, they are. We'll be waiting. 05-mafia

https://athlonsports.com/college-footbal...prediction

Quote:Junior Mitchell Guadagni is battling sophomore Eli Peters for the quarterback job, but experience is sorely lacking (a combined one career completion).

They failed to mention Mitch ran the FB 8 times for 9.5 yds per carry average.03-shhhh

An unproven QB at Toledo is a good thing for us.....
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Except he'll probably have 9 starts by the time the Rockets travel to DeKalb.

For the Rockets sake there won’t be a qb battle dragging on into the season. Though Childers had 8 or so starts, he didn’t have all that preseason practice time with the ones. So while game action is the most crucial thing for an development, I’d put practice reps with the first team right behind it. This year is much better for NIU having that clear #1.

I’m not sure what Toledo’s situation is, but I do know you don’t want one guy starting one week, then the other guy the next. That’s unavoidable sometimes but tough to go through.
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(06-11-2018 03:24 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  
(06-10-2018 10:03 PM)flair6 Wrote:  38th and ahead of LSU and Oregon!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc...586148002/
We are overrated.

The Michigan's and Alabama's are constantly overrated in the early polls, lets enjoy our turn from this media outlet, its called respect.
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(06-12-2018 10:40 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(06-12-2018 09:09 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(06-11-2018 06:32 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  
(06-11-2018 02:51 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(06-11-2018 01:00 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  Isn’t Toledo breaking in a new QB this year?

As a matter of fact, they are. We'll be waiting. 05-mafia

https://athlonsports.com/college-footbal...prediction

Quote:Junior Mitchell Guadagni is battling sophomore Eli Peters for the quarterback job, but experience is sorely lacking (a combined one career completion).

They failed to mention Mitch ran the FB 8 times for 9.5 yds per carry average.03-shhhh

An unproven QB at Toledo is a good thing for us.....
[/quote

Except he'll probably have 9 starts by the time the Rockets travel to DeKalb.

For the Rockets sake there won’t be a qb battle dragging on into the season. Though Childers had 8 or so starts, he didn’t have all that preseason practice time with the ones. So while game action is the most crucial thing for an development, I’d put practice reps with the first team right behind it. This year is much better for NIU having that clear #1.

I’m not sure what Toledo’s situation is, but I do know you don’t want one guy starting one week, then the other guy the next. That’s unavoidable sometimes but tough to go through.

I thought Childers did a very good job for coming in as the #3 QB. Should be very very solid this season.
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(06-12-2018 10:45 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(06-12-2018 10:40 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(06-12-2018 09:09 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(06-11-2018 06:32 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  
(06-11-2018 02:51 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  As a matter of fact, they are. We'll be waiting. 05-mafia

https://athlonsports.com/college-footbal...prediction

They failed to mention Mitch ran the FB 8 times for 9.5 yds per carry average.03-shhhh

An unproven QB at Toledo is a good thing for us.....
[/quote

Except he'll probably have 9 starts by the time the Rockets travel to DeKalb.

For the Rockets sake there won’t be a qb battle dragging on into the season. Though Childers had 8 or so starts, he didn’t have all that preseason practice time with the ones. So while game action is the most crucial thing for an development, I’d put practice reps with the first team right behind it. This year is much better for NIU having that clear #1.

I’m not sure what Toledo’s situation is, but I do know you don’t want one guy starting one week, then the other guy the next. That’s unavoidable sometimes but tough to go through.

I thought Childers did a very good job for coming in as the #3 QB. Should be very very solid this season.

He did about as well as one could expect from a true freshman who is not necessarily a great athlete or has a big arm. But he does have poise. Sort of a Zach Terrell type who will have to play smart and be accurate(which was an issue last season).
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(06-12-2018 10:52 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(06-12-2018 10:45 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(06-12-2018 10:40 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(06-12-2018 09:09 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(06-11-2018 06:32 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  They failed to mention Mitch ran the FB 8 times for 9.5 yds per carry average.03-shhhh

An unproven QB at Toledo is a good thing for us.....
[/quote

Except he'll probably have 9 starts by the time the Rockets travel to DeKalb.

For the Rockets sake there won’t be a qb battle dragging on into the season. Though Childers had 8 or so starts, he didn’t have all that preseason practice time with the ones. So while game action is the most crucial thing for an development, I’d put practice reps with the first team right behind it. This year is much better for NIU having that clear #1.

I’m not sure what Toledo’s situation is, but I do know you don’t want one guy starting one week, then the other guy the next. That’s unavoidable sometimes but tough to go through.

I thought Childers did a very good job for coming in as the #3 QB. Should be very very solid this season.

He did about as well as one could expect from a true freshman who is not necessarily a great athlete or has a big arm. But he does have poise. Sort of a Zach Terrell type who will have to play smart and be accurate(which was an issue last season).

Scharping has to be a big help.
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It is great that USA Today rates the Huskies so high. That means they will get to start the Iowa game being spotted a 7 point lead and kick off from the 50. Actually it means nothing more than an opinion.

After the Iowa game, win or lose, no one will remember or care where the Huskies ranked in any preseason poll.
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(06-12-2018 08:31 PM)Huskie_Jon Wrote:  It is great that USA Today rates the Huskies so high. That means they will get to start the Iowa game being spotted a 7 point lead and kick off from the 50. Actually it means nothing more than an opinion.

After the Iowa game, win or lose, no one will remember or care where the Huskies ranked in any preseason poll.

Unless Iowa loses and their fans tell everybody that NIU was ranked high by Myerberg.
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(06-12-2018 10:45 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  I thought Childers did a very good job for coming in as the #3 QB. Should be very very solid this season.

He did about as well as one could expect from a true freshman who is not necessarily a great athlete or has a big arm. But he does have poise. Sort of a Zach Terrell type who will have to play smart and be accurate(which was an issue last season).

Childers was a redshirt freshman, not true freshman. The true freshman QB at WMU outplayed Childers and he had less starts than Childers when we played them. Generally, you would think a QB would get better over the course of the season but Childers got worse. Last 3 games were terrible.
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(06-12-2018 10:52 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(06-12-2018 10:45 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  I thought Childers did a very good job for coming in as the #3 QB. Should be very very solid this season.

He did about as well as one could expect from a true freshman who is not necessarily a great athlete or has a big arm. But he does have poise. Sort of a Zach Terrell type who will have to play smart and be accurate(which was an issue last season).

Childers was a redshirt freshman, not true freshman. The true freshman QB at WMU outplayed Childers and he had less starts than Childers when we played them. Generally, you would think a QB would get better over the course of the season but Childers got worse. Last 3 games were terrible.

He was probably petrified of throwing an interception.
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(06-12-2018 10:52 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(06-12-2018 10:45 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  I thought Childers did a very good job for coming in as the #3 QB. Should be very very solid this season.

He did about as well as one could expect from a true freshman who is not necessarily a great athlete or has a big arm. But he does have poise. Sort of a Zach Terrell type who will have to play smart and be accurate(which was an issue last season).

Childers was a redshirt freshman, not true freshman. The true freshman QB at WMU outplayed Childers and he had less starts than Childers when we played them. Generally, you would think a QB would get better over the course of the season but Childers got worse. Last 3 games were terrible.

He was probably petrified of throwing an interception.

Easy to not throw INTs when 90% of your long passes are overthrown and the rest of your passes are simple laterals.
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(06-13-2018 09:50 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  
(06-12-2018 10:52 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(06-12-2018 10:45 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  I thought Childers did a very good job for coming in as the #3 QB. Should be very very solid this season.

He did about as well as one could expect from a true freshman who is not necessarily a great athlete or has a big arm. But he does have poise. Sort of a Zach Terrell type who will have to play smart and be accurate(which was an issue last season).

Childers was a redshirt freshman, not true freshman. The true freshman QB at WMU outplayed Childers and he had less starts than Childers when we played them. Generally, you would think a QB would get better over the course of the season but Childers got worse. Last 3 games were terrible.

2017 season:
Childers QB Rating 124.5 Adj QBR 41.1
Goddard QB Rating 97.3 Adj QBR 18.8
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(06-13-2018 10:04 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(06-13-2018 09:50 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  
(06-12-2018 10:52 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(06-12-2018 10:45 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  I thought Childers did a very good job for coming in as the #3 QB. Should be very very solid this season.

He did about as well as one could expect from a true freshman who is not necessarily a great athlete or has a big arm. But he does have poise. Sort of a Zach Terrell type who will have to play smart and be accurate(which was an issue last season).

Childers was a redshirt freshman, not true freshman. The true freshman QB at WMU outplayed Childers and he had less starts than Childers when we played them. Generally, you would think a QB would get better over the course of the season but Childers got worse. Last 3 games were terrible.

2017 season:
Childers QB Rating 124.5 Adj QBR 41.1
Goddard QB Rating 97.3 Adj QBR 18.8

So overall they both were bad, although one was an actual true freshman. I watched all the NIU games and Childers led a pretty inefficient offense and did not seem to get better with more experience. I hope a switch flips for him this year, he will be playing much tougher competition this season.
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Childers was #78 in Passing Efficiency, Roback #77 and Josh Allen #72.
Also, ahead of Roback in "Points Responsible For". Rouke led the MAC.
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https://www.foxsports.com/college-footba...ayer-stats

https://www.foxsports.com/college-footba...ayer-stats

Harnish made the big leap between his Jr year. His freshman stats are comparable to Childers. Harnish had better yards/att, Childers had better(by far) TD/INT.

Many posters on this board are schizophrenic...I remember after the 2012 Iowa game many wanted Lynch benched and more than a few suggested DD coached to lose the game. 01-wingedeagle
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