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RE: The "right way" to build a program
There is no doubt that KSU achieved more wins and enjoyed a better success rate, but I’m not completely sold. Yes they went to the playoffs and won! Congrats! And I mean that! I like KSU. But every conference winner gets the automatic bid. KSU competes in the smallest and, let’s face it, a very weak conference. Big South powerhouse Liberty University really fell off over the past couple years. Hell, they came in 4th last year just before departing for the BCS this year – Good luck flames. That’s right LU finished 2-3 in that conference of 5 teams. KSU went undefeated in the conference 5-0. Monmouth came in second at 4-1, but that’s not really the Missouri Valley, Mid-Eastern Athletic or Southland conference is it? In theory, you could go to the playoffs in the big South if you posed a 5-6 losing record providing all of your wins came in your conference. Charleston Southern is nowhere near the team they used to be, Gardner Webb went 1-10 with their only win over DII Shorter University, need I continue. Is KSU better – Yes, but let’s look at the Bucs. IMO the old school coaching staff did not relate to the modern players like the young staff at KSU. Bringing in a new HC who can relate to the players is huge. Perhaps he will light fire under them whereas the old regime tended to suppress excitement. The new OC departed after one week, so let’s hope the new, new OC (Raider) doesn’t follow the same mistakes of the old regime. The Bucs went 4-7 last year, and with each year a slight improvement. Looking at their conference over the past couple years, they are .500 against Mercer, Sanford, VMI and WCU. They were extremely close at beating Wofford and the Citadel. James Madison, Samford, and Western Carolina were blowouts last year, but they also beat Samford and WCU the previous season and you can bet those universities circled those dates. No one will surprise anyone this year. The only concern I have other than the UT game is the Chattanooga team. A new coaching staff always brings about change. Let’s hope the Bucs turn it around this year. Making predictions is simply a tool used to get people chatting. I honestly think they can get six wins this year with the possibility of seven. Call me crazy, but if they can muster up 6 conference wins – that would be Huge.
06-26-2018 04:02 PM
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RE: The "right way" to build a program
(06-26-2018 04:02 PM)Spector Wrote:  I honestly think they can get six wins this year with the possibility of seven. Call me crazy, but if they can muster up 6 conference wins – that would be Huge.


I can envision six wins this year; but in my wildest dreams, can't envision six conference wins. Of course I hope I'm wrong.

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06-27-2018 10:25 AM
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RE: The "right way" to build a program
MARS HILL, VMI & GARDNER WEBB - Wins

UTC & W. CAROLINA - UPSETS AT HOME

FURMAN, WOFFORD, CITADEL & SAMFORD - BEST TEAMS IN SOCON - WOULD BE HUGE UPSET TO WIN ANY OF THESE GAMES.

5W-6L

AFTER ONE MORE RECRUITING CLASS - 7W - 4L

AFTER TWO MORE RECRUITING CLASSES, WILL BE ABLE TO CHALLENGE FOR CHAMPIONSHIP.

THE BUCS ARE TWO YEARS BEHIND IN RECRUITING DUE TO THE LACK OF FOOTBALL FACILITIES, TO MANY LOCAL RECRUITS AND A POOR OFFENSIVE SCHEME.
06-27-2018 04:12 PM
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RE: The "right way" to build a program
(06-27-2018 04:12 PM)Buc76 Wrote:  MARS HILL, VMI & GARDNER WEBB - Wins

UTC & W. CAROLINA - UPSETS AT HOME

FURMAN, WOFFORD, CITADEL & SAMFORD - BEST TEAMS IN SOCON - WOULD BE HUGE UPSET TO WIN ANY OF THESE GAMES.

5W-6L

AFTER ONE MORE RECRUITING CLASS - 7W - 4L

AFTER TWO MORE RECRUITING CLASSES, WILL BE ABLE TO CHALLENGE FOR CHAMPIONSHIP.

THE BUCS ARE TWO YEARS BEHIND IN RECRUITING DUE TO THE LACK OF FOOTBALL FACILITIES, TO MANY LOCAL RECRUITS AND A POOR OFFENSIVE SCHEME.

I know next to nothing about recruiting. At this level, what are recruits and their families looking for? Facilities first, a free degree next, or the other way around? What turns heads of potential recruits at the FCS level?
It seems that a debt free degree in a field leading to an actual job would be a priority— or is that just pie-in-the-sky thinking in this age?
06-27-2018 06:45 PM
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# 1 - TOTAL PROGRAM IMAGE
# 2 - EDUCATION
# 3 - LOCATION
06-27-2018 07:31 PM
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(06-26-2018 04:02 PM)Spector Wrote:  There is no doubt that KSU achieved more wins and enjoyed a better success rate, but I’m not completely sold. Yes they went to the playoffs and won! Congrats! And I mean that! I like KSU. But every conference winner gets the automatic bid. KSU competes in the smallest and, let’s face it, a very weak conference. Big South powerhouse Liberty University really fell off over the past couple years. Hell, they came in 4th last year just before departing for the BCS this year – Good luck flames. That’s right LU finished 2-3 in that conference of 5 teams. KSU went undefeated in the conference 5-0. Monmouth came in second at 4-1, but that’s not really the Missouri Valley, Mid-Eastern Athletic or Southland conference is it? In theory, you could go to the playoffs in the big South if you posed a 5-6 losing record providing all of your wins came in your conference. Charleston Southern is nowhere near the team they used to be, Gardner Webb went 1-10 with their only win over DII Shorter University, need I continue. Is KSU better – Yes, but let’s look at the Bucs. IMO the old school coaching staff did not relate to the modern players like the young staff at KSU. Bringing in a new HC who can relate to the players is huge. Perhaps he will light fire under them whereas the old regime tended to suppress excitement. The new OC departed after one week, so let’s hope the new, new OC (Raider) doesn’t follow the same mistakes of the old regime. The Bucs went 4-7 last year, and with each year a slight improvement. Looking at their conference over the past couple years, they are .500 against Mercer, Sanford, VMI and WCU. They were extremely close at beating Wofford and the Citadel. James Madison, Samford, and Western Carolina were blowouts last year, but they also beat Samford and WCU the previous season and you can bet those universities circled those dates. No one will surprise anyone this year. The only concern I have other than the UT game is the Chattanooga team. A new coaching staff always brings about change. Let’s hope the Bucs turn it around this year. Making predictions is simply a tool used to get people chatting. I honestly think they can get six wins this year with the possibility of seven. Call me crazy, but if they can muster up 6 conference wins – that would be Huge.

No one knows how good KSU will be this year. Last years success doesn't at all state that we will compete that level this year. Pre-season rankings are tough to do, and with the amount of returning players we will get top 10 votes in every poll by default. How good are we truly? Time will tell.

Points on the Big South are all valid. That's an easy way to explain why we made the playoffs. Not a great argument for why we won the first two games and made it to the quarters. Not only did we made it to the quarters, we were stopped on a 4th down, inside the 30, trying to tie the game up. If we only made the playoffs due to a weak conference we should have been exposed by Samford..if not we should have been exposed by ranked #3 JSU...if not we should of had our doors blown off by SHSU.

The SoCon is tough because of how many above average teams there are. Samford should be good. Furman will be good. I expect Mercer to potentially take another step forward this year. Can ETSU make up ground on the rest? If so you start putting yourself right in the middle. Best of luck this season.
07-08-2018 11:17 AM
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(06-26-2018 04:02 PM)Spector Wrote:  Big South powerhouse Liberty University really fell off over the past couple years. Hell, they came in 4th last year just before departing for the BCS this year – Good luck flames.

Thanks! Last year was a transition year at LU, many things at play. Building toward 2019.
07-09-2018 08:59 AM
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