(06-05-2018 10:46 AM)usm99 Wrote:  I feel like it will help out from the aspect it will allow a WKU/MTSU/Marshall with a top 50 RPI to play a SB/Horizon top 100 team late in the season instead of having WKU/MTSU/Marshall play a 2nd game against a 200+ CUSA team like USM/Rice/FIU

+1. This is a good move.

(06-05-2018 09:18 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  

(06-05-2018 12:33 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Beginning in 2019-2020. Deal will give each team in all three leagues one guaranteed home game and one guaranteed road game. Matchups will be made to ensure the Top RPI teams in each league are guaranteed to face each other, and lower RPI's will face each other.

Contract is not signed, but this is what is being discussed right now.

SBC announced it's own version of Pod Scheduling today as well, apparently SBC/CUSA are working with the same consultant and will provide feedback to each other to refine the process as it goes.

Where did you find the details or announcement of this deal?

Our AD has a big Mouth.

No official announcement.No details.WAIT and see folks.This could be helpful if done correctly and with no long term contract to tie teams down.A lot of potential in theory--the old "devil in the details" quote applies.

We already played Horizon's best last season and beat them by 20....Why would we also want to play teams in sun belt who only care about college baseball?

(06-05-2018 07:45 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  So, who exactly is this designed to help, because it's damn sure not going to help C-USA.

Correction: It doesn't help Middle Tennessee.

Perhaps you guys can easily schedule whoever you want in OOC Play, but most of the Non Power Conference world of college basketball struggles regularly to find opponents willing to come play them at their place. It's forced a lot of us to either regularly schedule Non D1's or buy out SWAC schools. Neither of which are good solutions.

(06-05-2018 01:57 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  No official announcement.No details.WAIT and see folks.This could be helpful if done correctly and with no long term contract to tie teams down.A lot of potential in theory--the old "devil in the details" quote applies.

Deal will be for 5 years, but the concept is that a lot more leagues are going to eventually join in. I believe this applies to the Pod System in Conference scheduling as well.

Sun Belt has already stated its not concerned with getting multiple teams in the dance, believing its now impossible for a non power 5 league to do that, but rather get the highest seed possible for our champion.

(06-05-2018 02:27 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-05-2018 07:45 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  So, who exactly is this designed to help, because it's damn sure not going to help C-USA.

Correction: It doesn't help Middle Tennessee.

Perhaps you guys can easily schedule whoever you want in OOC Play, but most of the Non Power Conference world of college basketball struggles regularly to find opponents willing to come play them at their place. It's forced a lot of us to either regularly schedule Non D1's or buy out SWAC schools. Neither of which are good solutions.

Not exactly. It was pure hell for Kermit to schedule and that’s in spite of his nearly 30 years in coaching. He was able to cobble together three straight top 20 schedules but it wasn’t easy. I think the new guys is going to find it even more difficult.

If this was being pitched as that I have no problem with it. But if it’s pitched as a way to help us all with better postseason chances it’s not going to help much if at all.

(06-05-2018 02:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-05-2018 01:57 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  No official announcement.No details.WAIT and see folks.This could be helpful if done correctly and with no long term contract to tie teams down.A lot of potential in theory--the old "devil in the details" quote applies.

Deal will be for 5 years, but the concept is that a lot more leagues are going to eventually join in. I believe this applies to the Pod System in Conference scheduling as well.

Sun Belt has already stated its not concerned with getting multiple teams in the dance, believing its now impossible for a non power 5 league to do that, but rather get the highest seed possible for our champion.

I like the concept but agree with others that the SB and Horizon aren't really moving the needle for me right now. Hopefully a couple more mid major conferences will join the alliance, the more inventory the better the chances of having advantageous match ups.

Sounds about like the bracket buster games espn use to run. Only worse. Western refused to play in that other than the first year so I don't know what we would agree to something like this. Hell at least the old setup you had a chance to get the game shown on espn or one of their channels.


In the end the only thing that setup did was to bust the hopes of 50% of the teams playing in it.....the loss out weighted the win by a country mile. If this is going off last years RPI then its even worse because that means nothing for the following year. A team could be Sr based then drop off into the deep pool of 200+ RPI the next season.

If you want to do a scheduling of games between conferences just schedule the damn games and not act like its such a big deal. But play them during OOC play. Not in the middle of your conference schedule

(06-05-2018 02:56 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-05-2018 02:27 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-05-2018 07:45 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  So, who exactly is this designed to help, because it's damn sure not going to help C-USA.

Correction: It doesn't help Middle Tennessee.

Perhaps you guys can easily schedule whoever you want in OOC Play, but most of the Non Power Conference world of college basketball struggles regularly to find opponents willing to come play them at their place. It's forced a lot of us to either regularly schedule Non D1's or buy out SWAC schools. Neither of which are good solutions.

Not exactly. It was pure hell for Kermit to schedule and that’s in spite of his nearly 30 years in coaching. He was able to cobble together three straight top 20 schedules but it wasn’t easy. I think the new guys is going to find it even more difficult.

If this was being pitched as that I have no problem with it. But if it’s pitched as a way to help us all with better postseason chances it’s not going to help much if at all.

In the interview, he says the number one goal is to improve the champ seed in the tourney. A secondary goal is to potentially get another team in when a team like MTSU catches "lightening in a bottle" (his words), but loses in the conference tourney.

(06-05-2018 03:15 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Sounds about like the bracket buster games espn use to run. Only worse. Western refused to play in that other than the first year so I don't know what we would agree to something like this. Hell at least the old setup you had a chance to get the game shown on espn or one of their channels.


In the end the only thing that setup did was to bust the hopes of 50% of the teams playing in it.....the loss out weighted the win by a country mile. If this is going off last years RPI then its even worse because that means nothing for the following year. A team could be Sr based then drop off into the deep pool of 200+ RPI the next season.

If you want to do a scheduling of games between conferences just schedule the damn games and not act like its such a big deal. But play them during OOC play. Not in the middle of your conference schedule

It sounded like Mark Adams was going to pick the match ups based on a number of factors including recruiting and graduating personel along with various prior year metrics.

(06-05-2018 03:21 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(06-05-2018 02:56 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-05-2018 02:27 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-05-2018 07:45 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  So, who exactly is this designed to help, because it's damn sure not going to help C-USA.

Correction: It doesn't help Middle Tennessee.

Perhaps you guys can easily schedule whoever you want in OOC Play, but most of the Non Power Conference world of college basketball struggles regularly to find opponents willing to come play them at their place. It's forced a lot of us to either regularly schedule Non D1's or buy out SWAC schools. Neither of which are good solutions.

Not exactly. It was pure hell for Kermit to schedule and that’s in spite of his nearly 30 years in coaching. He was able to cobble together three straight top 20 schedules but it wasn’t easy. I think the new guys is going to find it even more difficult.

If this was being pitched as that I have no problem with it. But if it’s pitched as a way to help us all with better postseason chances it’s not going to help much if at all.

In the interview, he says the number one goal is to improve the champ seed in the tourney. A secondary goal is to potentially get another team in when a team like MTSU catches "lightening in a bottle" (his words), but loses in the conference tourney.

He also says that it isn't just factored off of last year's RPI, but also takes recruiting classes and transfers into account. Everyone on this board really should take the time to listen to the interview.

(06-05-2018 02:56 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-05-2018 02:27 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-05-2018 07:45 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  So, who exactly is this designed to help, because it's damn sure not going to help C-USA.

Correction: It doesn't help Middle Tennessee.

Perhaps you guys can easily schedule whoever you want in OOC Play, but most of the Non Power Conference world of college basketball struggles regularly to find opponents willing to come play them at their place. It's forced a lot of us to either regularly schedule Non D1's or buy out SWAC schools. Neither of which are good solutions.

Not exactly. It was pure hell for Kermit to schedule and that’s in spite of his nearly 30 years in coaching. He was able to cobble together three straight top 20 schedules but it wasn’t easy. I think the new guys is going to find it even more difficult.

If this was being pitched as that I have no problem with it. But if it’s pitched as a way to help us all with better postseason chances it’s not going to help much if at all.

If You'd listen to Adams interview, the goal is to increase the seed of the Conference Champ. And provide a strong enough competition that if someone had an amazing year, they'd have enough merit to get in on their own.

I just don't see anyway a mid major gets an at large bid again. The Committee and TV Networks favor power 5 schools, so that's what we're getting.

(06-05-2018 03:15 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Sounds about like the bracket buster games espn use to run. Only worse. Western refused to play in that other than the first year so I don't know what we would agree to something like this. Hell at least the old setup you had a chance to get the game shown on espn or one of their channels.


In the end the only thing that setup did was to bust the hopes of 50% of the teams playing in it.....the loss out weighted the win by a country mile. If this is going off last years RPI then its even worse because that means nothing for the following year. A team could be Sr based then drop off into the deep pool of 200+ RPI the next season.

If you want to do a scheduling of games between conferences just schedule the damn games and not act like its such a big deal. But play them during OOC play. Not in the middle of your conference schedule

These matchups should be picked far better than the bracket buster disaster. ESPN had to get those agreed to well in advance, so there was always a strong chance a team would have a bad year and nothing could be done about it.

In this case, the teams hold those spots open well in advance, and are simply matched up based off of computer rankings, RPI, SOS, Recruiting classes, graduation and a bunch of other metrics. It's not going to be completely random, which I'm convinced half of the bracket buster was.

clt says remember kids, it is lightning. Lightening is a medical term.

Well, I did lighten my roots this past weekend.

Five years? Sounds like too long to commit to something that could fail.


Fourteen teams in C-USA probably means four teams would be left out each year.This could be the saving grace for our league.If their are no teams very close to your RPI in a given year you might be off the deal that season.Additionally,your team might be given the choice to opt out one or two of the five years.

It appears our commish can be talked into pretty much anything, geez... I bet the mechanics see dollars signs when she takes her car in for work...

All fourteen presidents and AD's signed up for this deal according to the sound cloud interview.

(06-05-2018 06:24 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  All fourteen presidents and AD's signed up for this deal according to the sound cloud interview.

His next project sounds interesting as well. It appears his plan is to work with even more conferences to put together attractive early season tournament matchups that will further bolster RPI's.