(06-06-2018 08:06 AM)Golota76 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 07:41 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 05:50 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  

(06-02-2018 05:48 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  If we don t at least go 6-6 the pitchforks will be out again regardless if it is only Lunsford s 1st year

I think as long as the team is competitive and continues to progress especially during the 2nd half of the year then the fans will give him more time. CCL has built an excellent coaching staff and brought that True Blue culture back. I'm willing to accept a few bumps in the road and HC blunders as long as that swagger is shown on and off the field.

That's true. In the FBS, I haven't seen the Eagles progress during the season yet. In 2014, we started out strong but could barely beat ULM by the end of the season. In 2015, we started strong again and stayed somewhat consistent but lost to Georgia State to end the season and pulled it together for the bowl game. In 2016 and 2017, we didn't play football so those years don't count.

Do make you feel better about that 2014 ULM team. It was a decent squad had some good players HC n OC sucked azz. We should have beat Texas AM but HC went conservative and let them come back to beat us at the end. I was at the Ga Southern game. You guys have a great atmosphere I enjoyed the game day experience.

ULM has given us fits every time we've played y'all no matter what year. I'm terrified of y'all this year because y'all are over due for a win.

Wins: TSU, NMSU

Win 3 from this group: GS, GSU, ULM, UL, USA, Rutgers, UTSA

Losses: Troy, stAte, App

(06-06-2018 08:24 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 08:06 AM)Golota76 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 07:41 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 05:50 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  

(06-02-2018 05:48 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  If we don t at least go 6-6 the pitchforks will be out again regardless if it is only Lunsford s 1st year

I think as long as the team is competitive and continues to progress especially during the 2nd half of the year then the fans will give him more time. CCL has built an excellent coaching staff and brought that True Blue culture back. I'm willing to accept a few bumps in the road and HC blunders as long as that swagger is shown on and off the field.

That's true. In the FBS, I haven't seen the Eagles progress during the season yet. In 2014, we started out strong but could barely beat ULM by the end of the season. In 2015, we started strong again and stayed somewhat consistent but lost to Georgia State to end the season and pulled it together for the bowl game. In 2016 and 2017, we didn't play football so those years don't count.

Do make you feel better about that 2014 ULM team. It was a decent squad had some good players HC n OC sucked azz. We should have beat Texas AM but HC went conservative and let them come back to beat us at the end. I was at the Ga Southern game. You guys have a great atmosphere I enjoyed the game day experience.

ULM has given us fits every time we've played y'all no matter what year. I'm terrified of y'all this year because y'all are over due for a win.

I was liqoured up when that FG was blocked couple season ago. I was cursing at the top of my lungs In my gameroom upstairs. Wife came up asked what happened and I explained . She just turned around and walked downstairs she knew it wasn’t a good idea to say anything. Lol

It would be nice to get the W for sure.

(06-06-2018 08:47 AM)Golota76 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 08:24 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 08:06 AM)Golota76 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 07:41 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 05:50 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  I think as long as the team is competitive and continues to progress especially during the 2nd half of the year then the fans will give him more time. CCL has built an excellent coaching staff and brought that True Blue culture back. I'm willing to accept a few bumps in the road and HC blunders as long as that swagger is shown on and off the field.

That's true. In the FBS, I haven't seen the Eagles progress during the season yet. In 2014, we started out strong but could barely beat ULM by the end of the season. In 2015, we started strong again and stayed somewhat consistent but lost to Georgia State to end the season and pulled it together for the bowl game. In 2016 and 2017, we didn't play football so those years don't count.

Do make you feel better about that 2014 ULM team. It was a decent squad had some good players HC n OC sucked azz. We should have beat Texas AM but HC went conservative and let them come back to beat us at the end. I was at the Ga Southern game. You guys have a great atmosphere I enjoyed the game day experience.

ULM has given us fits every time we've played y'all no matter what year. I'm terrified of y'all this year because y'all are over due for a win.

I was liqoured up when that FG was blocked couple season ago. I was cursing at the top of my lungs In my gameroom upstairs. Wife came up asked what happened and I explained . She just turned around and walked downstairs she knew it wasn’t a good idea to say anything. Lol

It would be nice to get the W for sure.

I was front row, 50 yard line when that happened and let me tell you, I thought I was going to fall into the field the way the stands suddenly erupted into a frenzy. It was electric!

(06-06-2018 07:35 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(06-02-2018 06:48 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-02-2018 05:48 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  If we don t at least go 6-6 the pitchforks will be out again regardless if it is only Lunsford s 1st year

Georgia Southern goes through coaches faster than a fat girl trying new diets for new years resolution

How many of your HCs have been hired away?

I'll wait.

Dont be cheapskates and pay your coaches. Fritz couldve stayed. Monken couldve stayed. What is a lousy $1mil for a supposed "football school."
Then there are all those coaches who were chased out of town after a year or two.

(06-06-2018 09:17 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 07:35 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(06-02-2018 06:48 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-02-2018 05:48 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  If we don t at least go 6-6 the pitchforks will be out again regardless if it is only Lunsford s 1st year

Georgia Southern goes through coaches faster than a fat girl trying new diets for new years resolution

How many of your HCs have been hired away?

I'll wait.

Dont be cheapskates and pay your coaches. Fritz couldve stayed. Monken couldve stayed. What is a lousy $1mil for a supposed "football school."
Then there are all those coaches who were chased out of town after a year or two.

At least we chase the terrible ones out of town instead of giving them 5 years while we twiddle our thumbs.

(06-06-2018 09:20 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 09:17 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 07:35 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(06-02-2018 06:48 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-02-2018 05:48 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  If we don t at least go 6-6 the pitchforks will be out again regardless if it is only Lunsford s 1st year

Georgia Southern goes through coaches faster than a fat girl trying new diets for new years resolution

How many of your HCs have been hired away?

I'll wait.

Dont be cheapskates and pay your coaches. Fritz couldve stayed. Monken couldve stayed. What is a lousy $1mil for a supposed "football school."
Then there are all those coaches who were chased out of town after a year or two.

At least we chase the terrible ones out of town instead of giving them 5 years while we twiddle our thumbs.

Give credit where its due. Miles was Coach of the Year in 2015. Charlie Cobb did the right thing by giving Miles another year to prove himself.

(06-06-2018 09:35 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 09:20 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 09:17 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 07:35 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(06-02-2018 06:48 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Georgia Southern goes through coaches faster than a fat girl trying new diets for new years resolution

How many of your HCs have been hired away?

I'll wait.

Dont be cheapskates and pay your coaches. Fritz couldve stayed. Monken couldve stayed. What is a lousy $1mil for a supposed "football school."
Then there are all those coaches who were chased out of town after a year or two.

At least we chase the terrible ones out of town instead of giving them 5 years while we twiddle our thumbs.

Give credit where its due. Miles was Coach of the Year in 2015. Charlie Cobb did the right thing by giving Miles another year to prove himself.

I forgot all you have to do to win coach of the year is get a previously winless team barely bowl eligible and lose to a 5-7 team in the post season. They give out those things to anyone nowadays

(06-05-2018 02:41 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  App State (5-3)

LOL. You taking bets on App State conference wins +/- 5.5? I'll take some of that action if so.

(06-06-2018 09:45 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 09:35 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 09:20 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 09:17 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 07:35 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  How many of your HCs have been hired away?

I'll wait.

Dont be cheapskates and pay your coaches. Fritz couldve stayed. Monken couldve stayed. What is a lousy $1mil for a supposed "football school."
Then there are all those coaches who were chased out of town after a year or two.

At least we chase the terrible ones out of town instead of giving them 5 years while we twiddle our thumbs.

Give credit where its due. Miles was Coach of the Year in 2015. Charlie Cobb did the right thing by giving Miles another year to prove himself.

I forgot all you have to do to win coach of the year is get a previously winless team barely bowl eligible and lose to a 5-7 team in the post season. They give out those things to anyone nowadays

If you say so

(06-06-2018 09:17 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 07:35 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(06-02-2018 06:48 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-02-2018 05:48 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  If we don t at least go 6-6 the pitchforks will be out again regardless if it is only Lunsford s 1st year

Georgia Southern goes through coaches faster than a fat girl trying new diets for new years resolution

How many of your HCs have been hired away?

I'll wait.

Dont be cheapskates and pay your coaches. Fritz couldve stayed. Monken couldve stayed. What is a lousy $1mil for a supposed "football school."
Then there are all those coaches who were chased out of town after a year or two.

There was only one Sunbelt coach last year that made $1M, and you're saying that even years before that we should have just opened our pocketbooks to pay $1M? Why would we have?

Fritz got $1.2 from Tulane and would not have stayed for less.

Monken probably would have stayed for $1M, but when he was only making about $350K at the time, tripling his salary isn't reasonable and wasn't going to happen. He left for a dream job at an Academy and about $800K.

We are currently paying our HC more than you are, yet we are the cheapskates? I don't follow...

Lastly, we've run ONE coach out of town after a year or two; Summers. And he more than deserved it. The only ones for two or less were: Fritz (left on his own for more money see above), "He who shall remain nameless" (left on his own for the NFL even though he SHOULD have been run out of town), and Elwood who was an interim coach before PJ.

(06-06-2018 10:28 AM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 09:17 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 07:35 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(06-02-2018 06:48 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-02-2018 05:48 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  If we don t at least go 6-6 the pitchforks will be out again regardless if it is only Lunsford s 1st year

Georgia Southern goes through coaches faster than a fat girl trying new diets for new years resolution

How many of your HCs have been hired away?

I'll wait.

Dont be cheapskates and pay your coaches. Fritz couldve stayed. Monken couldve stayed. What is a lousy $1mil for a supposed "football school."
Then there are all those coaches who were chased out of town after a year or two.

There was only one Sunbelt coach last year that made $1M, and you're saying that even years before that we should have just opened our pocketbooks to pay $1M? Why would we have?

Fritz got $1.2 from Tulane and would not have stayed for less.

Monken probably would have stayed for $1M, but when he was only making about $350K at the time, tripling his salary isn't reasonable and wasn't going to happen. He left for a dream job at an Academy and about $800K.

We are currently paying our HC more than you are, yet we are the cheapskates? I don't follow...

Lastly, we've run ONE coach out of town after a year or two; Summers. And he more than deserved it. The only ones for two or less were: Fritz (left on his own for more money see above), "He who shall remain nameless" (left on his own for the NFL before he had the chance to be run out of town), and Elwood who was an interim coach before PJ.

FIFY

(06-06-2018 10:28 AM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  There was only one Sunbelt coach last year that made $1M, and you're saying that even years before that we should have just opened our pocketbooks to pay $1M? Why would we have?

Fritz got $1.2 from Tulane and would not have stayed for less.

Monken probably would have stayed for $1M, but when he was only making about $350K at the time, tripling his salary isn't reasonable and wasn't going to happen. He left for a dream job at an Academy and about $800K.

We are currently paying our HC more than you are, yet we are the cheapskates? I don't follow...

Lastly, we've run ONE coach out of town after a year or two; Summers. And he more than deserved it. The only ones for two or less were: Fritz (left on his own for more money see above), "He who shall remain nameless" (left on his own for the NFL even though he SHOULD have been run out of town), and Elwood who was an interim coach before PJ.

Because if GS wants to present itself as a top football school, it should also be a pioneer in that sort of thing among non-P5s (especially SBC)

$1mil $1.2mil same difference. Fritz would've stayed with little discount if your AD didn't offer an insulting one-year cheap deal.

triple or not, $800k is $800k.

Current salary is irrelevant. Coaches come with an initial price tag according to their previous resume. We are talking about retaining your coaches after they achieve some continued success. The question you wanna ask is, "if Shawn Elliott receives offers around $1mil to other G5..will GSU match it?" I don't see why not, it's not like we dont have the money and Cobb likes Elliott.

Because idk the names, did a quick search- Summers, Dean, Gillespie, Cook, Constantini, Chandler are just the notable ones chased out recently. Dont care to look further but it seems the pitchforks came out often. Ya'll are already talking about running Lundsford out town for 6-6 record. jesus christ.

Easy with the JC... its just football.

Thanks.

And no... I don't think pitchforks come out at 6-6.. this is a rebuild job now.

(06-06-2018 09:53 AM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  

(06-05-2018 02:41 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  App State (5-3)

LOL. You taking bets on App State conference wins +/- 5.5? I'll take some of that action if so.

I sort of see his theory. App will likely be underdogs in Jonesboro, and Troy in Boone is no picnic. It's certainly possible they could lose a 3rd

Personally, I'd set the over under at 6.5 though.

(06-06-2018 11:18 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 10:28 AM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  There was only one Sunbelt coach last year that made $1M, and you're saying that even years before that we should have just opened our pocketbooks to pay $1M? Why would we have?

Fritz got $1.2 from Tulane and would not have stayed for less.

Monken probably would have stayed for $1M, but when he was only making about $350K at the time, tripling his salary isn't reasonable and wasn't going to happen. He left for a dream job at an Academy and about $800K.

We are currently paying our HC more than you are, yet we are the cheapskates? I don't follow...

Lastly, we've run ONE coach out of town after a year or two; Summers. And he more than deserved it. The only ones for two or less were: Fritz (left on his own for more money see above), "He who shall remain nameless" (left on his own for the NFL even though he SHOULD have been run out of town), and Elwood who was an interim coach before PJ.

Because if GS wants to present itself as a top football school, it should also be a pioneer in that sort of thing among non-P5s (especially SBC)

$1mil $1.2mil same difference. Fritz would've stayed with little discount if your AD didn't offer an insulting one-year cheap deal.

triple or not, $800k is $800k.

Current salary is irrelevant. Coaches come with an initial price tag according to their previous resume. We are talking about retaining your coaches after they achieve some continued success. The question you wanna ask is, "if Shawn Elliott receives offers around $1mil to other G5..will GSU match it?" I don't see why not, it's not like we dont have the money and Cobb likes Elliott.

Because idk the names, did a quick search- Summers, Dean, Gillespie, Cook, Constantini, Chandler are just the notable ones chased out recently. Dont care to look further but it seems the pitchforks came out often. Ya'll are already talking about running Lundsford out town for 6-6 record. jesus christ.

So in your mind because we had several of assistant coaches that lost their jobs (after losing seasons!!!) under Summers, that means we as fans "ran them out of town"? They got fired either by their head coach or were not retained by the new head coach. BIG difference between that and run out of town. And ONE poster saying in his opinion that 6-6 gets CL fired doesn't make it so.

Fritz had more than a one year deal. It was a one year state contract just like almost every other state employee, with a four year guaranteed contract with the Athletic Foundation. It also auto renewed each year if he won 7 games. It was also the same type of contract that every other HC in the state of GA had up until several years ago when the BOR decided to change it. Him leaving wasn't about job security, it was about $1.2M. Like I said, I don't blame him for leaving. But he whined like a little #$%^&* after he left

(06-06-2018 11:58 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 09:53 AM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  

(06-05-2018 02:41 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  App State (5-3)

LOL. You taking bets on App State conference wins +/- 5.5? I'll take some of that action if so.

I sort of see his theory. App will likely be underdogs in Jonesboro, and Troy in Boone is no picnic. It's certainly possible they could lose a 3rd

Personally, I'd set the over under at 6.5 though.

No, they just think because they took our safeties coach as their DC and our assistant S&C coach as their head man, that they are now on equal footing with the 2 time defending champs, whom they have only beaten once in the last seven tries.

(06-06-2018 12:17 PM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 11:18 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 10:28 AM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  There was only one Sunbelt coach last year that made $1M, and you're saying that even years before that we should have just opened our pocketbooks to pay $1M? Why would we have?

Fritz got $1.2 from Tulane and would not have stayed for less.

Monken probably would have stayed for $1M, but when he was only making about $350K at the time, tripling his salary isn't reasonable and wasn't going to happen. He left for a dream job at an Academy and about $800K.

We are currently paying our HC more than you are, yet we are the cheapskates? I don't follow...

Lastly, we've run ONE coach out of town after a year or two; Summers. And he more than deserved it. The only ones for two or less were: Fritz (left on his own for more money see above), "He who shall remain nameless" (left on his own for the NFL even though he SHOULD have been run out of town), and Elwood who was an interim coach before PJ.

Because if GS wants to present itself as a top football school, it should also be a pioneer in that sort of thing among non-P5s (especially SBC)

$1mil $1.2mil same difference. Fritz would've stayed with little discount if your AD didn't offer an insulting one-year cheap deal.

triple or not, $800k is $800k.

Current salary is irrelevant. Coaches come with an initial price tag according to their previous resume. We are talking about retaining your coaches after they achieve some continued success. The question you wanna ask is, "if Shawn Elliott receives offers around $1mil to other G5..will GSU match it?" I don't see why not, it's not like we dont have the money and Cobb likes Elliott.

Because idk the names, did a quick search- Summers, Dean, Gillespie, Cook, Constantini, Chandler are just the notable ones chased out recently. Dont care to look further but it seems the pitchforks came out often. Ya'll are already talking about running Lundsford out town for 6-6 record. jesus christ.

So in your mind because we had several of assistant coaches that lost their jobs (after losing seasons!!!) under Summers, that means we as fans "ran them out of town"? They got fired either by their head coach or were not retained by the new head coach. BIG difference between that and run out of town. And ONE poster saying in his opinion that 6-6 gets CL fired doesn't make it so.

Fritz had more than a one year deal. It was a one year state contract just like almost every other state employee, with a four year guaranteed contract with the Athletic Foundation. It also auto renewed each year if he won 7 games. It was also the same type of contract that every other HC in the state of GA had up until several years ago when the BOR decided to change it. Him leaving wasn't about job security, it was about $1.2M. Like I said, I don't blame him for leaving. But he whined like a little #$%^&* after he left

That part isn't ENTIRELY accurate based on info that came out last year, but that's how it was sold to the fans. There was some reason for Fritz to be looking due to having perceived slights against him from that whole process, right or wrong.

But agree with the rest of it. It was more about money than anything else.

(06-06-2018 01:20 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 11:58 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 09:53 AM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  

(06-05-2018 02:41 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  App State (5-3)

LOL. You taking bets on App State conference wins +/- 5.5? I'll take some of that action if so.

I sort of see his theory. App will likely be underdogs in Jonesboro, and Troy in Boone is no picnic. It's certainly possible they could lose a 3rd

Personally, I'd set the over under at 6.5 though.

No, they just think because they took our safeties coach as their DC and our assistant S&C coach as their head man, that they are now on equal footing with the 2 time defending champs, whom they have only beaten once in the last seven tries.

No I just think that you lost both your Defensive Coordinators, one to us and the other to GT, and a difference maker on your S&C staff, not to mention all the talent you lost. It's not outside of the realm of possibilities that App could regress slightly to 5-3 in conference which isn't an insult.

(06-06-2018 01:38 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 12:17 PM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 11:18 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 10:28 AM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  There was only one Sunbelt coach last year that made $1M, and you're saying that even years before that we should have just opened our pocketbooks to pay $1M? Why would we have?

Fritz got $1.2 from Tulane and would not have stayed for less.

Monken probably would have stayed for $1M, but when he was only making about $350K at the time, tripling his salary isn't reasonable and wasn't going to happen. He left for a dream job at an Academy and about $800K.

We are currently paying our HC more than you are, yet we are the cheapskates? I don't follow...

Lastly, we've run ONE coach out of town after a year or two; Summers. And he more than deserved it. The only ones for two or less were: Fritz (left on his own for more money see above), "He who shall remain nameless" (left on his own for the NFL even though he SHOULD have been run out of town), and Elwood who was an interim coach before PJ.

Because if GS wants to present itself as a top football school, it should also be a pioneer in that sort of thing among non-P5s (especially SBC)

$1mil $1.2mil same difference. Fritz would've stayed with little discount if your AD didn't offer an insulting one-year cheap deal.

triple or not, $800k is $800k.

Current salary is irrelevant. Coaches come with an initial price tag according to their previous resume. We are talking about retaining your coaches after they achieve some continued success. The question you wanna ask is, "if Shawn Elliott receives offers around $1mil to other G5..will GSU match it?" I don't see why not, it's not like we dont have the money and Cobb likes Elliott.

Because idk the names, did a quick search- Summers, Dean, Gillespie, Cook, Constantini, Chandler are just the notable ones chased out recently. Dont care to look further but it seems the pitchforks came out often. Ya'll are already talking about running Lundsford out town for 6-6 record. jesus christ.

So in your mind because we had several of assistant coaches that lost their jobs (after losing seasons!!!) under Summers, that means we as fans "ran them out of town"? They got fired either by their head coach or were not retained by the new head coach. BIG difference between that and run out of town. And ONE poster saying in his opinion that 6-6 gets CL fired doesn't make it so.

Fritz had more than a one year deal. It was a one year state contract just like almost every other state employee, with a four year guaranteed contract with the Athletic Foundation. It also auto renewed each year if he won 7 games. It was also the same type of contract that every other HC in the state of GA had up until several years ago when the BOR decided to change it. Him leaving wasn't about job security, it was about $1.2M. Like I said, I don't blame him for leaving. But he whined like a little #$%^&* after he left

That part isn't ENTIRELY accurate based on info that came out last year, but that's how it was sold to the fans. There was some reason for Fritz to be looking due to having perceived slights against him from that whole process, right or wrong.

But agree with the rest of it. It was more about money than anything else.

The part I think you are referring to is that we had always been told that every coach in GA had the same BOR one year deal. We found out that was incorrect. That's why I said "almost every state employee" and "It was also the same type of contract that every other HC in the state of GA had up until several years ago when the BOR decided to change it"