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Big 12 money
saw Big 12 is going to be distributing 364.9 million to schools this year. 36.5 million per school..... Not to bad, given that it's w/o the Sugar bowl money(4 million more) this year.
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RE: Big 12 money
How many expansion calls do you think Bowlsly is fielding now that the B12 appears stable?
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RE: Big 12 money
(06-01-2018 06:40 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  How many expansion calls do you think Bowlsly is fielding now that the B12 appears stable?

From the P5? None!
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(06-01-2018 06:40 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  How many expansion calls do you think Bowlsly is fielding now that the B12 appears stable?

Dollars does not equal stable. If OU chooses to take its talents elsewhere the game is over.

Texas likes having LHN and it will be hard to blast them out but if OU leaves the whole thing becomes untenable for Texas.
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RE: Big 12 money
(06-03-2018 10:59 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(06-01-2018 06:40 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  How many expansion calls do you think Bowlsly is fielding now that the B12 appears stable?

Dollars does not equal stable. If OU chooses to take its talents elsewhere the game is over.

Texas likes having LHN and it will be hard to blast them out but if OU leaves the whole thing becomes untenable for Texas.

You might be underestimating Texas' desire to be the Alpha Dog in whatever conference they are in. If OU and OK State, and only those two, were to leave the Big 12 I'm not sure Texas would go anywhere.
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RE: Big 12 money
(06-06-2018 08:16 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(06-03-2018 10:59 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(06-01-2018 06:40 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  How many expansion calls do you think Bowlsly is fielding now that the B12 appears stable?

Dollars does not equal stable. If OU chooses to take its talents elsewhere the game is over.

Texas likes having LHN and it will be hard to blast them out but if OU leaves the whole thing becomes untenable for Texas.

You might be underestimating Texas' desire to be the Alpha Dog in whatever conference they are in. If OU and OK State, and only those two, were to leave the Big 12 I'm not sure Texas would go anywhere.

I have serious doubts about the capacity of Texas selling an affiliation that leaves them divorced from TAMU and OU. At that point you are more Harlem Globetrotters and less serious national athletic program.
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RE: Big 12 money
(06-06-2018 09:55 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(06-06-2018 08:16 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(06-03-2018 10:59 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(06-01-2018 06:40 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  How many expansion calls do you think Bowlsly is fielding now that the B12 appears stable?

Dollars does not equal stable. If OU chooses to take its talents elsewhere the game is over.

Texas likes having LHN and it will be hard to blast them out but if OU leaves the whole thing becomes untenable for Texas.

You might be underestimating Texas' desire to be the Alpha Dog in whatever conference they are in. If OU and OK State, and only those two, were to leave the Big 12 I'm not sure Texas would go anywhere.

I have serious doubts about the capacity of Texas selling an affiliation that leaves them divorced from TAMU and OU. At that point you are more Harlem Globetrotters and less serious national athletic program.

No, at that point the Longhorns could be more like Notre Dame. I don't think they'll actually do that, but no doubt there are egos there that think they could be even more successful as a football indy than Notre Dame.
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RE: Big 12 money
(06-06-2018 10:17 AM)Wedge Wrote:  
(06-06-2018 09:55 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(06-06-2018 08:16 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(06-03-2018 10:59 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(06-01-2018 06:40 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  How many expansion calls do you think Bowlsly is fielding now that the B12 appears stable?

Dollars does not equal stable. If OU chooses to take its talents elsewhere the game is over.

Texas likes having LHN and it will be hard to blast them out but if OU leaves the whole thing becomes untenable for Texas.

You might be underestimating Texas' desire to be the Alpha Dog in whatever conference they are in. If OU and OK State, and only those two, were to leave the Big 12 I'm not sure Texas would go anywhere.

I have serious doubts about the capacity of Texas selling an affiliation that leaves them divorced from TAMU and OU. At that point you are more Harlem Globetrotters and less serious national athletic program.

No, at that point the Longhorns could be more like Notre Dame. I don't think they'll actually do that, but no doubt there are egos there that think they could be even more successful as a football indy than Notre Dame.


As someone who doesn't want a P4 x 16, I hope that the Big 12 stays together as a P5 league. That would forever kill a "champs only" 4 team playoff.

If not, as someone who would like to see more football independents, I would welcome Texas making that move.
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RE: Big 12 money
Notre Dame has maintained its rivalries through realignment. Texas so far hasn't.

Texas has played Arkansas three times in regular season and has one future game slated since the Hogs left the SWC after the 1991 season.

Texas and Texas A&M have not met and only reportedly discussing games and are unlikely to renew before more than a decade lapse in the series.

Looking at other schools they've played at least 25 times that aren't in the Big XII now:
Houston haven't played since 2002

Rice 12 times, three from 2010 forward

SMU haven't played since 1995
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ND has maintained its games with USC and Navy. Not so much with Michigan State or Michigan. Those games are being scheduled about as frequently as Texas-Arkansas.

Other than TAMU and perhaps Arkansas, I doubt UT fans care much one way or the other about playing other former SWC teams. And even for Arkansas, it's been almost 30 years since the Hogs left the SWC.
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(06-06-2018 01:43 PM)Wedge Wrote:  ND has maintained its games with USC and Navy. Not so much with Michigan State or Michigan. Those games are being scheduled about as frequently as Texas-Arkansas.

Other than TAMU and perhaps Arkansas, I doubt UT fans care much one way or the other about playing other former SWC teams. And even for Arkansas, it's been almost 30 years since the Hogs left the SWC.

Arkansas - Texas a thing for quite a bit. Not UT-OU big but it was a major game for both. They've played three times in regular season the past 27 years.

Notre Dame and Michigan State have played six time 2010 to 2017 they take a 10 year break.

ND and Michigan have played five times 2010-2017 and meet this year.

Notre Dame and Purdue are taking a six year break before they resume.

Texas seems to just divorce and head the other direction.
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(06-06-2018 01:43 PM)Wedge Wrote:  ND has maintained its games with USC and Navy. Not so much with Michigan State or Michigan. Those games are being scheduled about as frequently as Texas-Arkansas.

Other than TAMU and perhaps Arkansas, I doubt UT fans care much one way or the other about playing other former SWC teams. And even for Arkansas, it's been almost 30 years since the Hogs left the SWC.


You forgot Stanford. ND has maintained an annual game with them as well as Southern Cal and Navy.

I love that ND is not playing Big Ten teams (yuck) every year any longer. Hip, hip, hooray!

The first 21 years of my life, ND and Michigan did not play, at all. So, Back To The Future, it is.......

I don't miss annual games with Purdue, Michigan State or Michigan. I have been an anti-Big Ten person since about 1968.

I don't like ND hockey in the Big Ten. Too bad that Jack Swarbrick does not listen to me.

If I were Czar of ND sports, the Irish would boycott the Big Ten in all sports, forever.
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RE: Big 12 money
(06-06-2018 10:17 AM)Wedge Wrote:  
(06-06-2018 09:55 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(06-06-2018 08:16 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(06-03-2018 10:59 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(06-01-2018 06:40 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  How many expansion calls do you think Bowlsly is fielding now that the B12 appears stable?

Dollars does not equal stable. If OU chooses to take its talents elsewhere the game is over.

Texas likes having LHN and it will be hard to blast them out but if OU leaves the whole thing becomes untenable for Texas.

You might be underestimating Texas' desire to be the Alpha Dog in whatever conference they are in. If OU and OK State, and only those two, were to leave the Big 12 I'm not sure Texas would go anywhere.

I have serious doubts about the capacity of Texas selling an affiliation that leaves them divorced from TAMU and OU. At that point you are more Harlem Globetrotters and less serious national athletic program.

No, at that point the Longhorns could be more like Notre Dame. I don't think they'll actually do that, but no doubt there are egos there that think they could be even more successful as a football indy than Notre Dame.

I've never heard the independence idea from anyone at UT and its much more rare among the fans than among outside fans.

Texas values its non-rev sports.
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(06-06-2018 11:00 AM)TerryD Wrote:  As someone who doesn't want a P4 x 16, I hope that the Big 12 stays together as a P5 league. That would forever kill a "champs only" 4 team playoff.

You have to admit it is exciting watching to see how many, and which, conferences get into the playoffs....
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(06-11-2018 01:41 PM)Otacon Wrote:  
(06-06-2018 11:00 AM)TerryD Wrote:  As someone who doesn't want a P4 x 16, I hope that the Big 12 stays together as a P5 league. That would forever kill a "champs only" 4 team playoff.

You have to admit it is exciting watching to see how many, and which, conferences get into the playoffs....

It's the teams that get in, and possibly win the titles. Not the conferences. Vanderbilt doesn't have last season's CFP trophy in its trophy case. DePaul doesn't hang a national championship banner in its arena for Villanova's title.
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(06-11-2018 02:04 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(06-11-2018 01:41 PM)Otacon Wrote:  
(06-06-2018 11:00 AM)TerryD Wrote:  As someone who doesn't want a P4 x 16, I hope that the Big 12 stays together as a P5 league. That would forever kill a "champs only" 4 team playoff.

You have to admit it is exciting watching to see how many, and which, conferences get into the playoffs....

It's the teams that get in, and possibly win the titles. Not the conferences. Vanderbilt doesn't have last season's CFP trophy in its trophy case. DePaul doesn't hang a national championship banner in its arena for Villanova's title.

If you lived in the Southeast you might not be so sure...
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