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(06-12-2018 10:01 AM)rocketinchitown Wrote:  Someone calling another school's attendance an embarrassment when their's is just as bad.


(06-08-2018 10:31 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Yay?

Football attendance (actual/visual, not fudged) is still the embarrassment of the league, FCS at best.

The occasional plastic trophy for sports of lesser-impotance sports does not make EMU any less of a turd in the MAC punchbowl.

Are you high? Attendance is down all over the place, but EMU is definitely an outlier in this department.

Bad weather, national attendance trends and crap ESPN scheduling has taken its toll on NIU and other programs' numbers, but a good old-fashioned sunny Saturday game will still put 10,000-20,000 real human butts in the NIU stands, no sweat. How many times in the last decade has EMU put 15,000 REAL human bodies in the stands for a home game?

Don't ping back with a quote from their attendance stats, unless your a fan of fantasy and attendance-fiction.
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Did you just brag about 10000 fans?
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(06-12-2018 04:13 PM)ilovegymnast Wrote:  Did you just brag about 10000 fans?

Only in relation to how that 10k real attendance NIU off-day might compare to an EMU reported 12k attendance with 3900 actual humans in the building.

I'll get off the subject, only a 24-7 "attendance cam" at EMU with the reported attendance running on-screen during the games would ever settle this. Watch the next televised EMU game, check out the visual for yourself. #highschool
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http://www.daily-chronicle.com/lists/201...xml?page=1

"In fact, according to NIU defensive end Jake Hlava, who played for Batavia High School during the 2013 IHSA Football Championships at Huskie Stadium, high school title games have fared better than NIU."
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(06-12-2018 05:22 PM)masttg Wrote:  http://www.daily-chronicle.com/lists/201...xml?page=1

"In fact, according to NIU defensive end Jake Hlava, who played for Batavia High School during the 2013 IHSA Football Championships at Huskie Stadium, high school title games have fared better than NIU."

There is a ton of evidence that NIU and a bunch of other schools are hurting attendance-wise, we all know this already. EMU is still the outlier here. Empty stands, not less-full-for-the-time-being like the rest of us.

The sad photo in that article still blows away most televised images of the mostly-vacant EMU stadium we're all used to seeing.
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I do think that one important point needs to be made about the “televised” attendance at the EMU football home games. The camera views that you will most frequently see is pointing towards the side with the tarps that say “The Factory.” This is the visitors side of the stadium and is typically where a large segment of the traveling fans from the other universities come in. Not an excuse but a reason for why when you’re watching to see it look more pitiful.

Look Eastern’s attendance has been embarrassing a large chunk of the time. Yes there have been games where local high school games have had more people. However, The reason I say largely is because the last game I attended, the EMU-WMU homecoming game was easily the largest crowd I’ve seen at Rynearson in the 11-12 years I’ve gone. I think there is finally some positive momentum! I don’t think there is a single EMU fan that wouldn’t tell you that it has to get better. However, to consistently bring it up on this board when you are talking to a group of EMU fans, not EMU marketers, or people who are directly responsible for those attendance numbers just seems silly.. I’m just not sure what constantly bringing up that same belabored point is doing to help anything except for to cause trouble. Again you can think whatever you want but I just don’t see why at every turn certain posters feel the need to bash that point in.

The sad part is that a thread on EMU’s success turns into another diatribe on EMU football attendance. If any other school had won the Reese Trophy this board would celebrate that and not rag on the accomplishment or look for ways to diminish their success.

I’ll probably get bashed for this post anyways so I’ll just conclude by saying congratulations to the athletes from EMU who worked hard to earn that trophy!
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EMU's been bad in football for a very long time. What is the excuse in DeKalb? We need to figure out what the hell we're doing there, and not worry about other schools.
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Congrats to EMU.

NIU envies your program successes.
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(06-13-2018 09:38 AM)TheCrumbIsHere Wrote:  I do think that one important point needs to be made about the “televised” attendance at the EMU football home games. The camera views that you will most frequently see is pointing towards the side with the tarps that say “The Factory.” This is the visitors side of the stadium and is typically where a large segment of the traveling fans from the other universities come in. Not an excuse but a reason for why when you’re watching to see it look more pitiful.

Look Eastern’s attendance has been embarrassing a large chunk of the time. Yes there have been games where local high school games have had more people. However, The reason I say largely is because the last game I attended, the EMU-WMU homecoming game was easily the largest crowd I’ve seen at Rynearson in the 11-12 years I’ve gone. I think there is finally some positive momentum! I don’t think there is a single EMU fan that wouldn’t tell you that it has to get better. However, to consistently bring it up on this board when you are talking to a group of EMU fans, not EMU marketers, or people who are directly responsible for those attendance numbers just seems silly.. I’m just not sure what constantly bringing up that same belabored point is doing to help anything except for to cause trouble. Again you can think whatever you want but I just don’t see why at every turn certain posters feel the need to bash that point in.

The sad part is that a thread on EMU’s success turns into another diatribe on EMU football attendance. If any other school had won the Reese Trophy this board would celebrate that and not rag on the accomplishment or look for ways to diminish their success.

I’ll probably get bashed for this post anyways so I’ll just conclude by saying congratulations to the athletes from EMU who worked hard to earn that trophy!

Good points. And I have made similar many, many times.

MAC FB is not like the NFL with many camera mounted and mobile covering the action from many vantage points.

Typically, a camera will be near the press box which is almost always the home side of the stadium and shows only the away side, not home side of the stadium.

In many MAC FB games, 80 - 90% of the crowd is on the home side of the stadium unless the crowd is very large.

At EMU, it is true for many reasons:

1). The students and band are at one end of the sideline on the home side.

2). The parking lots at Rynearson are close to the home side of the stadium. One would need to go from one side of the stadium to get to the visitor's side. No reason for anyone to do that, unless the fans want more exercise.

3). As some astute butts in seats watchers notice, it is not uncommon to have many visitor fans on the home side of the stadium, typically near the Convo.

Therefore having say 10 - 12K on the west (home) stands and 1K on the east (visitor) side is perfectly understandable and predictable.

It would be helpful if the camera in the end zone would have more shots of the home side crowd but that would be a 'crowd shot', and not a shot of the game action.
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You bring in a big name opponent and still can't get 15k.

Your assessment you can get 20k is laughable. When was the last time y'all did that.

weeknight games? OU and Toledo seem to do just fine. Western Mich too.

OU and Western in the same realm as NIU in terms of city size.

NIU just doesn't capitalize on their alumni in Chicago.

(06-12-2018 12:53 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  
(06-12-2018 10:01 AM)rocketinchitown Wrote:  Someone calling another school's attendance an embarrassment when their's is just as bad.


(06-08-2018 10:31 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Yay?

Football attendance (actual/visual, not fudged) is still the embarrassment of the league, FCS at best.

The occasional plastic trophy for sports of lesser-impotance sports does not make EMU any less of a turd in the MAC punchbowl.

Are you high? Attendance is down all over the place, but EMU is definitely an outlier in this department.

Bad weather, national attendance trends and crap ESPN scheduling has taken its toll on NIU and other programs' numbers, but a good old-fashioned sunny Saturday game will still put 10,000-20,000 real human butts in the NIU stands, no sweat. How many times in the last decade has EMU put 15,000 REAL human bodies in the stands for a home game?

Don't ping back with a quote from their attendance stats, unless your a fan of fantasy and attendance-fiction.
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Why does NIU feel like they are in the college football elite club? You're in the MAC and you're a directional school. Deal with it. You're not relevant nationally.
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(06-14-2018 02:37 PM)rocketinchitown Wrote:  You bring in a big name opponent and still can't get 15k.

Your assessment you can get 20k is laughable. When was the last time y'all did that.

weeknight games? OU and Toledo seem to do just fine. Western Mich too.

OU and Western in the same realm as NIU in terms of city size.

NIU just doesn't capitalize on their alumni in Chicago.

(06-12-2018 12:53 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  
(06-12-2018 10:01 AM)rocketinchitown Wrote:  Someone calling another school's attendance an embarrassment when their's is just as bad.


(06-08-2018 10:31 AM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Yay?

Football attendance (actual/visual, not fudged) is still the embarrassment of the league, FCS at best.

The occasional plastic trophy for sports of lesser-impotance sports does not make EMU any less of a turd in the MAC punchbowl.

Are you high? Attendance is down all over the place, but EMU is definitely an outlier in this department.

Bad weather, national attendance trends and crap ESPN scheduling has taken its toll on NIU and other programs' numbers, but a good old-fashioned sunny Saturday game will still put 10,000-20,000 real human butts in the NIU stands, no sweat. How many times in the last decade has EMU put 15,000 REAL human bodies in the stands for a home game?

Don't ping back with a quote from their attendance stats, unless your a fan of fantasy and attendance-fiction.
EMU has Kentucky coming to town in 2019. A lot of folks in SE Michigan have roots in KY. Should be a huge crowd.
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