(05-30-2018 09:57 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 09:24 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 08:53 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Because Trump’s actions and words don’t support it.

Actually he's saying EXACTLY what Trump has been saying...

That is has nothing to do with Trump.

When Trump speaks of shutting down the investigation, he's talking about the investigation into his campaign. If the FBI would like to investigate what Russia did, that's fine... HOWEVER, it's not their jurisdiction to do so now is it?

Amazing how some people get so caught up in a narrative that they lose the plot.

Nailed it.

Trump was furious with Comey that he'd admit to him in private that Trump was not the target of the investigation but refused to say the same in public while the MSM narrative was that Trump was the target and selected leaks from the FBI supported that narrative.

Gowdy, as a special prosecutor, has long admired the work of the FBI but has expressed plenty of frustration with the FBI's leadership for their delaying tactics in producing documents for congressional investigators and for their excessive redactions of those documents they did produce.

His latest comments pretty-well cover his ass with both Trump and the FBI. I wonder if there's something up there.

I'm guessing he suspects that there WAS someone within the Trump campaign, negotiating with Russia nefariously/for private personal gain, but not related to the election/hacking/DNC leaks.

So while the FBI may have been appropriate for investigating that guy, they were inappropriate for allowing the leaks that have undermined the president and election.

I think a lot of the issues with what happened here go back to 9/11 and our responses, including the patRIOT act. Used to be, FBI focused on law enforcement issues and operated domestically, while CIA focused on intel and operated outside the US. The FBI came across information that had intel value (the strange behavior of certain flight students in Arizona) but did not have any immediate law enforcement implications. Had that information been combined with other intel, we could probably have prevented 9/11, or at very minimum been far better prepared to respond immediately. But it wasn’t shared because of either the Jamie Gorelick memo or the general unwillingness to share information in the Washington bureaucracy where knowledge is power, or probably most likely, an interpretation of the former to justify the latter.

The problem could have been solved many ways, including protocols mandating the sharing of such critical information. But that’s not how Washington bureaucrats roll. So what we did was empower the FBI to operate overseas and the CIA to operate domestically. And in the course of that FBI took on some intel jurisdiction and CIA some law enforcement activities. The water got very muddy as to responsibilities, and that allowed FBI to turn a law enforcement action into an intel action.

(05-30-2018 11:18 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  I'm guessing he suspects that there WAS someone within the Trump campaign, negotiating with Russia nefariously/for private personal gain, but not related to the election/hacking/DNC leaks.

So while the FBI may have been appropriate for investigating that guy, they were inappropriate for allowing the leaks that have undermined the president and election.

Yeah, that someone could have used their position "close to Trump" for personal gain, would come as no shock to anyone, including Trump. Just look at Cohen selling his "services" to anyone, domestic or foreign, willing to fall for the scheme.

I think inappropriate behavior on the part of the FBI is a given based on all that's been revealed to date. The part that interests me the most, and will be the most difficult to extract from those in-the-know, is what role the Obama administration had in the entire affair. I suspect everyone knows my thoughts on the subject.

So the Trump campaign wasn't infiltrated nor was Trump colluding with Russians.

Sounds like a win-win for everyone. Time to move on and root for the President's success in his summit with Kim Jung Un.

Nice job Marc...great example of fake news...good work

I believe Jeff Session was another FBI plant. Explains his actions? Release the documents.

(05-30-2018 02:34 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  I believe Jeff Session was another FBI plant.

(05-30-2018 09:39 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Most geniuses have a tough time with reading comprehension.

Reading this brings up Gowdy's view of justice. Doesn't matter the party just get the truth. Also he stated once Trump sees the info he'd agree.

Also, paraphrasing: Comey's letters to himself would likely be defense exhibit A, B and C.

I don't even think witch hunt does this ill-conceived, stupid, national distraction justice.

More a cast-net fishing exhibition- cast it far and wide and see who and what you can scoop up.

(05-30-2018 10:23 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 10:21 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 10:07 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Its a preliminary statement on some of the IG report coming out. Basically saying the rank and file did what they should have done based upon what they were told. It was the Obama whitehouse/FBI/DOJ leadership that was corrupt.

From what I've read, the rank and file thought the Cankle Server investigation finding was nothing but a set up by Comey.

Apparently one of the lead FBI guy on the case resigned over the cankle debacle. He's set to testify next month.

A number of them have actually ASKED to be subpoenaed so they can openly testify and that would provide them whatever cover they may need. Or, something like that.

THAT will be much watch stuff.

(05-30-2018 08:19 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com...index.html

Damn, just how intellectually dishonest are you anyway?

(05-30-2018 09:13 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  Here's exactly what Gowdy said:

Quote:REP. TREY GOWDY: I think defensive briefings are done a lot, and why the Comey FBI didn't do it I don't know, but [FBI director] Chris Wray and [deputy A.G.] Rod Rosenstein have at least made it clear to us, Donald Trump was never the target of the investigation and he is not the target of the investigation. Keep in mind, that can all change based on testimony from a witness. But, for now, I think Chris Wray and Rod Rosenstein are stunned when people think Trump is the subject of their investigation. I'll leave it up to them for how to brief the president and his lawyers.

Further:

Quote:GOWDY: Yes. I am even more convinced that the FBI did exactly what my fellow citizens would want them to do when they got the information they got, and that it has nothing to do with Donald Trump.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/...ld_do.html

Nice try though.

cnn parses gowdy's words to fit their false narrative ...

INFINITE LOOP

Quote:GOWDY: Yes. I am even more convinced that the FBI did exactly what my fellow citizens would want them to do when they got the information they got, and that it has nothing to do with Donald Trump.

And they got "the information", from where?

(05-30-2018 12:24 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  So the Trump campaign wasn't infiltrated

JUST PASSING THROUGH

(05-30-2018 04:04 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

Quote:GOWDY: Yes. I am even more convinced that the FBI did exactly what my fellow citizens would want them to do when they got the information they got, and that it has nothing to do with Donald Trump.

And they got "the information", from where?

We have a president who access to every classified document in existance that tells people whats going on over Twitter. Marc constantly wants us to believe liberal hack writers and MSNBC wack job commentators with no clearance have all the details. Really? Thats the plan to convince folks?

(05-30-2018 04:04 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

Quote:GOWDY: Yes. I am even more convinced that the FBI did exactly what my fellow citizens would want them to do when they got the information they got, and that it has nothing to do with Donald Trump.

And they got "the information", from where?

downer's tip formally launched fbi probe ...
or at least that's their story ...

SLIP A SHRIMP ON THE BARBIE

Awful deceptive OP. Post less

(05-30-2018 06:41 PM)shere khan Wrote: