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(05-30-2018 09:56 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(05-30-2018 09:43 AM)cmaxwellgsu Wrote:  If you wade through the liberal pearl clutching, he has a real point at the end of the day. Would UALR be able to generate enough attendance and interest to have a viable football team? It just seems like a hard sell to fans who pretty much have a loyalty to some other team.

Not saying I think Little Rock should try to start football, at least not FBS football, but people said the same things about Georgia Southern in the 80's.

Different time different circumstances. We needed about five bucks to start our program and be competitive with so much local talent close by. Plus Erk's dont come around very often.
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(06-01-2018 12:28 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(06-01-2018 12:10 PM)mjs Wrote:  I've been a UA-Little Rock supporter, booster, season ticket holder, etc. for over 35 years. I can't find a whole lot to criticize in Mr. Brummett's article. I tend to lean toward UA-LR football being a giant boondoggle if we decide to go that route. Sure, I will support it if it comes to pass- I'm just not sure it is a great idea at this point in time. We struggle to get 1500 folks for basketball, unless we are winning 30 games. How many fans will come out in the rain, heat, or cold to sit on uncomfortable metal bleachers to see a bad to mediocre football team? Did I mention that Little Rock is an awful sports town?

Ever since the Great Stadium debate and the improvement in Razorback Stadium fans have voted with their wallets on playing in Little Rock. My favorite beef was the crowds had gone down because the fans wanted to see SEC teams not Sun Belt, MAC, and FCS. So they brought Georgia and ended up having to seriously discount tickets just to get them sold and even then there were quite a few empty seats visible on TV.

I’m not sure LR should or will ever field a football stadium. People have a tendency to compare them to South with the stadium option, but it also comes down to there being 2 million more people in Alabama then in Arkansas. But this should be the time for it to happen as well as stAte should be having record season because UA(rkansas) is just terrible and I don’t see it getting better soon.

Now UTA is another story all together.
06-04-2018 05:56 PM
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The problem is that stadium. No one knows what to do with it. If the earth was to swallow it up the Razorbacks would be happy, UALR could have a definite answer on starting a program and stAte could quit hearing idiots talk about how we should play the pigs there every other year because it would be suck a great money maker. They should bulldoze it.
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These old municipal stadiums have more then outlived their usefulness. If any of them deserved to be saved it would be Legion Field in Birmingham, it’s 90 years old and has been witness to some amazing football. After all, it is the “Football Capital of the South”.

But, much like Ladd, Legion, War Memorial, they are old, cities don’t want to or can’t maintain them properly and keep them updated to be relavent in today’s sports market. With so many cities now building MSL and USL stadiums that seat 5,000-25,000, they can house football, rather a post season bowl game or even NFL teams for a few seasons, cities will find its cheaper to build that new then upkeep a crumbling stadium that is probably in a bad part of town.
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(06-04-2018 09:01 PM)Usajags Wrote:  These old municipal stadiums have more then outlived their usefulness. If any of them deserved to be saved it would be Legion Field in Birmingham, it’s 90 years old and has been witness to some amazing football. After all, it is the “Football Capital of the South”.

But, much like Ladd, Legion, War Memorial, they are old, cities don’t want to or can’t maintain them properly and keep them updated to be relavent in today’s sports market. With so many cities now building MSL and USL stadiums that seat 5,000-25,000, they can house football, rather a post season bowl game or even NFL teams for a few seasons, cities will find its cheaper to build that new then upkeep a crumbling stadium that is probably in a bad part of town.

Little Rock would be well served with a more compact facility. The Salt Bowl is the biggest regular event there other than the Hogs and that is moving to every other year. Benton and Bryant which are in Saline County just south of Little Rock and Pulaski County come up to War Memorial every year for their early season game and it has produced three crowds of over 30,000.

Something more efficient and smaller would work great for Catholic High School, Arkansas Baptist (juco), the state football championships and the Little Rock Rangers (NPSL soccer). Could even bid on the Division II championship since odds are the weather will be better than Kansas City.
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(05-29-2018 10:00 AM)Rik Flair Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 09:51 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Really is just attacking the idea that football is essential for higher education and a jab at the Republican governor's purported fiscal conservatism in wanting to use state dollars to keep the old stadium up to date
http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2018/...-20180529/

Lots of good points. Razorbacks are reluctantly coming back to LR, but for how long. War Memorial is better than Ladd, but not SEC caliber. ASU has no interest in playing in LR unless the city finds a way to get them some $$$. UALR would never fill WMS. If they ever wanted a football team, I think it would be better to have a 10k stadium near campus and move to the Southland then try to play BCS and use WMS.

Almost anything is better than Ladd,
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(06-01-2018 12:10 PM)mjs Wrote:  I've been a UA-Little Rock supporter, booster, season ticket holder, etc. for over 35 years. I can't find a whole lot to criticize in Mr. Brummett's article. I tend to lean toward UA-LR football being a giant boondoggle if we decide to go that route. Sure, I will support it if it comes to pass- I'm just not sure it is a great idea at this point in time. We struggle to get 1500 folks for basketball, unless we are winning 30 games. How many fans will come out in the rain, heat, or cold to sit on uncomfortable metal bleachers to see a bad to mediocre football team? Did I mention that Little Rock is an awful sports town?

No offense, but you actually sound like a lot of Mobilians did when students, alumni and supporters of South Alabama athletics were making attempts to start varsity football. Our students basically took control and it snowballed from there. If the students at UALR really want football, they can “get ‘er done”.
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(06-04-2018 10:48 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  
(06-01-2018 12:10 PM)mjs Wrote:  I've been a UA-Little Rock supporter, booster, season ticket holder, etc. for over 35 years. I can't find a whole lot to criticize in Mr. Brummett's article. I tend to lean toward UA-LR football being a giant boondoggle if we decide to go that route. Sure, I will support it if it comes to pass- I'm just not sure it is a great idea at this point in time. We struggle to get 1500 folks for basketball, unless we are winning 30 games. How many fans will come out in the rain, heat, or cold to sit on uncomfortable metal bleachers to see a bad to mediocre football team? Did I mention that Little Rock is an awful sports town?

No offense, but you actually sound like a lot of Mobilians did when students, alumni and supporters of South Alabama athletics were making attempts to start varsity football. Our students basically took control and it snowballed from there. If the students at UALR really want football, they can “get ‘er done”.

The students are on board in theory. Once there is a price tag? Who knows?

I have a high degree of faith that Chasse Conque can raise the money for the needed campus facilities. It's the operating costs that will make or break it.
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