http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-...aris-child

Not every immigrant is a terrorist folks. Here's a nice story from France for a change about a man from Mali who saved an infant who somehow ended up dangling from a ledge on a high story building in Paris. He climbed several stories to save the boy and now is being branded a hero in France (and Macron is making him a citizen and offering him a job as a fireman).

Not every immigrant is a terrorist. And not every immigrant is not a terrorist.

It would seem that a rational immigration policy would actively recruit those who are not terrorists and bring needed skills, allow in those who are not terrorists who are seeking asylum, and keep out all who are terrorists or criminals, and would include sufficient tools to evaluate candidates and classify them properly for decision purposes. And those tools would be refined and strengthened over time as we learn from experience.

I don't see anyone pushing for that approach--it's either keep them all out because some are terrorists, or let them all in because some are not terrorists. We need some discrimination in our immigration policy. Not racial or religious discrimination, but ability and loyalty discrimination would be useful.

Sometimes a drunk driver manages to avoid an accident.

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ICE Holds Twice-Deported Man Suspected In Upstate NY Toddler’s Disappearance, Mom’s Death

I am sure the OP doesn't consider this person "evil".

Quote:Authorities have not yet charged a Mexican citizen in the death of his girlfriend and the disappearance of her 14-month-old child, but the man known as Alberto Ebavardo Guiterrez-Reyes isn’t going anywhere.

The 25-year-old man, suspected of working illegally on a Sodus farm, has been ordered held by federal immigration officials. He’s also facing an evidence tampering charge in connection with his girlfriend’s death.

“Alberto Ebavardo Guiterrez-Reyes” is an alias for Evarardo Donoteo-Reyes, a twice-deported Mexican citizen, Immigration and Customs Enforcement said in a statement.

Reyes had been deported in 2016 and 2017, authorities told The (Rochester) Democrat & Chronicle. He has a 2017 conviction for illegal re-entry, Immigration and Customs Enforcement added.

“ICE is determined to seek out and locate illegal aliens in New York.” Field Office Director Thomas Feeley said, according to the D & C. “This case sadly illustrates the real dangers to our communities.”

The mother, Selena Hidago-Calderon, was found dead Wednesday in a wooded area of the farm where she worked and lived with Reyes.

Hidago-Calderon, of Guatemala, was also in the country illegally, as are many Upstate farm workers.

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(05-28-2018 07:12 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  ICE Holds Twice-Deported Man Suspected In Upstate NY Toddler’s Disappearance, Mom’s Death

I am sure the OP doesn't consider this person "evil".

Quote:Authorities have not yet charged a Mexican citizen in the death of his girlfriend and the disappearance of her 14-month-old child, but the man known as Alberto Ebavardo Guiterrez-Reyes isn’t going anywhere.

The 25-year-old man, suspected of working illegally on a Sodus farm, has been ordered held by federal immigration officials. He’s also facing an evidence tampering charge in connection with his girlfriend’s death.

“Alberto Ebavardo Guiterrez-Reyes” is an alias for Evarardo Donoteo-Reyes, a twice-deported Mexican citizen, Immigration and Customs Enforcement said in a statement.

Reyes had been deported in 2016 and 2017, authorities told The (Rochester) Democrat & Chronicle. He has a 2017 conviction for illegal re-entry, Immigration and Customs Enforcement added.

“ICE is determined to seek out and locate illegal aliens in New York.” Field Office Director Thomas Feeley said, according to the D & C. “This case sadly illustrates the real dangers to our communities.”

The mother, Selena Hidago-Calderon, was found dead Wednesday in a wooded area of the farm where she worked and lived with Reyes.

Hidago-Calderon, of Guatemala, was also in the country illegally, as are many Upstate farm workers.

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(05-28-2018 08:51 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Not every immigrant is a terrorist. And not every immigrant is not a terrorist.

It would seem that a rational immigration policy would actively recruit those who are not terrorists and bring needed skills, allow in those who are not terrorists who are seeking asylum, and keep out all who are terrorists or criminals, and would include sufficient tools to evaluate candidates and classify them properly for decision purposes. And those tools would be refines and strengthened over time as we learn for experience.

I don't see anyone pushing for that approach--it's either keep them all out because some are terrorists, or let them all in because some are not terrorists. We need some discrimination in our immigration policy. Not racial or religious discrimination, but ability and loyalty discrimination would be useful.

I think that would be a very effective policy.

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(05-28-2018 07:53 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-...aris-child

Not every immigrant is a terrorist folks.

It's nice to see trumps economy helping new businesses to start up... I wish you success with that straw man factory you've started up..

(05-28-2018 07:53 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-...aris-child

Not every immigrant is a terrorist folks. Here's a nice story from France for a change about a man from Mali who saved an infant who somehow ended up dangling from a ledge on a high story building in Paris. He climbed several stories to save the boy and now is being branded a hero in France (and Macron is making him a citizen and offering him a job as a fireman).

Well hell...you've changed my mind.

OPEN OUR BORDERS FOR ALL THAT WANT TO COME IN! NO QUESTIONS ASKED!!












/sarcasm

(05-28-2018 07:53 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-...aris-child

Not every immigrant is a terrorist folks. Here's a nice story from France for a change about a man from Mali who saved an infant who somehow ended up dangling from a ledge on a high story building in Paris. He climbed several stories to save the boy and now is being branded a hero in France (and Macron is making him a citizen and offering him a job as a fireman).

I'm not going to comment on if this man is good or bad (I don't know him), but he clearly didn't have a job and from the sounds of it, his skillset is that of climbing and no fear of heights. We have enough unemployed, welfare recipients in this country.

(05-28-2018 09:47 PM)blah Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 07:53 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-...aris-child

Not every immigrant is a terrorist folks. Here's a nice story from France for a change about a man from Mali who saved an infant who somehow ended up dangling from a ledge on a high story building in Paris. He climbed several stories to save the boy and now is being branded a hero in France (and Macron is making him a citizen and offering him a job as a fireman).

I'm not going to comment on if this man is good or bad (I don't know him), but he clearly didn't have a job and from the sounds of it, his skillset is that of climbing and no fear of heights. We have enough unemployed, welfare recipients in this country.

That man showed extreme bravery to make that rescue of that boy. He was rewarded with French citizenship and a job with the fire department. He earned all of that plus more. Why not just make a post detailing his bravery and how he was rewarded instead of the evil political crap. I posted an example of the type of immigrant that is truly evil to show there is a basis for protecting our borders.

Because he's a foreigner (from Mali, one of the countries which almost made our immigration ban list) and there are plenty of posts here pointing out all the idiots of the world. I still believe that for every bad apple, there are way more good apples around. It's a nice story and the guy should be commended. I don't think my original post was overly-political when compared to how many negative posts we have on foreigners here.

(05-28-2018 10:28 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Because he's a foreigner (from Mali, one of the countries which almost made our immigration ban list) and there are plenty of posts here pointing out all the idiots of the world. I still believe that for every bad apple, there are way more good apples around. It's a nice story and the guy should be commended. I don't think my original post was overly-political when compared to how many negative posts we have on foreigners here.

I agree. Nice story and glad he was rewarded for his behavior.

However, this post does not negate the immigrant violence issue that the Western World faces. The majority of terrorism comes from one religion, and until that is addressed, you will have justifiable societal mistrust of immigrants sharing that orthodoxy. And to ignore it endangers your embedded population. Just ask Sweden.

(05-28-2018 07:53 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-...aris-child

Not every immigrant is a terrorist folks. Here's a nice story from France for a change about a man from Mali who saved an infant who somehow ended up dangling from a ledge on a high story building in Paris. He climbed several stories to save the boy and now is being branded a hero in France (and Macron is making him a citizen and offering him a job as a fireman).

So a guy from a country that "almost" made our list saves kid.

K

Where did anyone say all immigrants are bad.

Good grief

Is this the democrats new plan? All immigrants aren't bad, make America more like France?

Good luck with that

Democrats like to pretend there is no difference between a legal immigrant, an illegal immigrant or MS-13.

FBO's post is a perfect example of that, just vaguely claiming "foreigners" are always attacked here.

(05-28-2018 07:53 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-...aris-child

Not every immigrant is a terrorist folks. Here's a nice story from France for a change about a man from Mali who saved an infant who somehow ended up dangling from a ledge on a high story building in Paris. He climbed several stories to save the boy and now is being branded a hero in France (and Macron is making him a citizen and offering him a job as a fireman).

Good, Baby’s safe. Now someone go find the terrorist(s) that decided to dangle an innocent baby from a high story ledge.

Animals.

A story this morning says the kids' dad was inside his apartment playing Pokemon Go while it happened.

(05-28-2018 07:31 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 08:51 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Not every immigrant is a terrorist. And not every immigrant is not a terrorist.

It would seem that a rational immigration policy would actively recruit those who are not terrorists and bring needed skills, allow in those who are not terrorists who are seeking asylum, and keep out all who are terrorists or criminals, and would include sufficient tools to evaluate candidates and classify them properly for decision purposes. And those tools would be refines and strengthened over time as we learn for experience.

I don't see anyone pushing for that approach--it's either keep them all out because some are terrorists, or let them all in because some are not terrorists. We need some discrimination in our immigration policy. Not racial or religious discrimination, but ability and loyalty discrimination would be useful.

I think that would be a very effective policy.

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Yep.

The problem we have now with having some discrimination concerning ability and loyalty is this: To attempt to discern someone's ability or potential loyalty, we first have to have the ability to background check and interview the potential immigrant.

Running or swimming across the border and then disappearing into the country kind of precludes doing the above............

Three killed, including 2 police officers, in possible terror attack near Belgian coffee shop

No info on the person that committed these police murders earlier today. So we will wait and see where he is from. Terrible tragedy.

Quote:A gunman shot and killed three people, including two police officers, and wounded two others in a possible terror attack near a coffee shop in Belgium, local media reported.

The shooting happened near the Café de Augustins in Liege, according to public broadcaster RTBF.

The gunman, who wasn’t immediately identified, fled the coffee shop, took a cleaning woman hostage at a nearby school, but was later “neutralized,” police told BBC. A Belgian prosecutor told the Associated Press that the gunman disarmed police and used their weapons in the shooting spree.

An official at Belgian federal prosecutor’s office told the Associated Press that “there are indications” the shooting could be a terror attack.

Officials said earlier that terrorism wasn’t being ruled out.

“It [terrorism] is one of the questions on the table, but for the moment all scenarios are open,” a spokesman for the anti-crisis monitoring center told Reuters.

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