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From time to time I see twitter posts and reports on 757recruiting about local players getting offers from P5 schools. Today there is a tweet about 2 local running backs getting offers from South Carolina, even though both are class of 2021.
Since BW's lack of success recruiting locals comes up on here, I'm wondering why he doesn't at least offer more schollys to local elites. May not score any, but at least it shows local coaches we're interested.
The rumor was BW is not all that well received locally. Wonder if that has changed.

(05-26-2018 09:43 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  From time to time I see twitter posts and reports on 757recruiting about local players getting offers from P5 schools. Today there is a tweet about 2 local running backs getting offers from South Carolina, even though both are class of 2021.
Since BW's lack of success recruiting locals comes up on here, I'm wondering why he doesn't at least offer more schollys to local elites. May not score any, but at least it shows local coaches we're interested.
The rumor was BW is not all that well received locally. Wonder if that has changed.

I don’t have any contacts. Who are the rumors from?


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Im pretty sure they offer almost every elite local recruit.

(05-26-2018 11:03 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Im pretty sure they offer almost every elite local recruit.

Offer and actively recruit by build relationships with coaches, families, and players are 2 different things.

(05-28-2018 02:17 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(05-26-2018 11:03 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Im pretty sure they offer almost every elite local recruit.

Offer and actively recruit by build relationships with coaches, families, and players are 2 different things.

Do you know they aren’t actively trying to accomplish that?


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If a tree falls in the woods.

These boards are funny. People make up conspiracy theories with no evidence and then demand that other people disprove the conspiracy theories. If overwhelming evidence to disprove the conspiracy theory isn't supplied, the CP becomes the "truth" on here.

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I'll offer a recent anecdotal example which shocked me. I ran into a guy wearing an ODU hat at the gym a week or so ago. We got to talking. He's a wrestling coach in Richmond who knows lots of HS coaches down here in all sports. Also a season ticket holder at one time who has canceled. When I asked why, he said he was pissed off at BW's recruiting philosophy which, he's been told by HS coaches here, basically ignores them. They say he has little to no profile among them and they're not happy about it, thought it would be different. . . . That said, I remember talking to an ODU assistant bball coach years ago who lamented to fact that the local HS coaches weren't interested in sending their best players to ODU -- the Reids, Mournings, etc - but the lower tier. I don't see where any of that has changed when I look at a kid like Coleman.

Take it for what it's worth.

(05-28-2018 08:18 PM)T-Mac Wrote:  These boards are funny. People make up conspiracy theories with no evidence and then demand that other people disprove the conspiracy theories. If overwhelming evidence to disprove the conspiracy theory isn't supplied, the CP becomes the "truth" on here.

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Bull...there are plenty of examples. But hey believe what you want. I know the ground truth from several HS programs. Coaches have felt ignored and I know of one recruit that was more than good enough to play for ODU that went to VT that was basically ignored because he was told he was FCS level.

(05-29-2018 11:41 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 08:18 PM)T-Mac Wrote:  These boards are funny. People make up conspiracy theories with no evidence and then demand that other people disprove the conspiracy theories. If overwhelming evidence to disprove the conspiracy theory isn't supplied, the CP becomes the "truth" on here.

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Bull...there are plenty of examples. But hey believe what you want. I know the ground truth from several HS programs. Coaches have felt ignored and I know of one recruit that was more than good enough to play for ODU that went to VT that was basically ignored because he was told he was FCS level.

So the coaches had a different opinion than the VT coaches? Big deal

How many minutes per game is he playing at VT?

The anecdotal story of a walk-on for the Hokies proves what exactly?

I can't recall the source, may have been Minium, but at one point there was discussion about the fact that BW was disappointed because many local coaches thought we were still FCS.

If that is true, whose primary responsibility is it to educate local coaches?

If there really is a local coach so ignorant as to think ODU is an FCS school, he is beyond help. I just cannot imagine that there is even one that fits that description.

(05-29-2018 08:18 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  I'll offer a recent anecdotal example which shocked me. I ran into a guy wearing an ODU hat at the gym a week or so ago. We got to talking. He's a wrestling coach in Richmond who knows lots of HS coaches down here in all sports. Also a season ticket holder at one time who has canceled. When I asked why, he said he was pissed off at BW's recruiting philosophy which, he's been told by HS coaches here, basically ignores them. They say he has little to no profile among them and they're not happy about it, thought it would be different. . . . That said, I remember talking to an ODU assistant bball coach years ago who lamented to fact that the local HS coaches weren't interested in sending their best players to ODU -- the Reids, Mournings, etc - but the lower tier. I don't see where any of that has changed when I look at a kid like Coleman.

Take it for what it's worth.

We are likely never getting the best, but there has to be some middle ground between Matt Coleman and Travis Fields locally that we could compete for. I guess Godwin may fit that bill, but we should be getting a couple every year. Heck, even if we get the lower tier, let's start developing high potential local projects again like Finney, Frank, Baze, and Coop.

Edit: this appears to be a football thread, but I was responding to your last 2 sentences.

(05-29-2018 02:47 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  I can't recall the source, may have been Minium, but at one point there was discussion about the fact that BW was disappointed because many local coaches thought we were still FCS.

If that is true, whose primary responsibility is it to educate local coaches?

If high school coaches think ODU is FCS, I'm more concerned that these are the folks that are supposed to be helping kids get into college.

(05-29-2018 03:03 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(05-29-2018 08:18 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  I'll offer a recent anecdotal example which shocked me. I ran into a guy wearing an ODU hat at the gym a week or so ago. We got to talking. He's a wrestling coach in Richmond who knows lots of HS coaches down here in all sports. Also a season ticket holder at one time who has canceled. When I asked why, he said he was pissed off at BW's recruiting philosophy which, he's been told by HS coaches here, basically ignores them. They say he has little to no profile among them and they're not happy about it, thought it would be different. . . . That said, I remember talking to an ODU assistant bball coach years ago who lamented to fact that the local HS coaches weren't interested in sending their best players to ODU -- the Reids, Mournings, etc - but the lower tier. I don't see where any of that has changed when I look at a kid like Coleman.

Take it for what it's worth.

We are likely never getting the best, but there has to be some middle ground between Matt Coleman and Travis Fields locally that we could compete for. I guess Godwin may fit that bill, but we should be getting a couple every year. Heck, even if we get the lower tier, let's start developing high potential local projects again like Finney, Frank, Baze, and Coop.

Edit: this appears to be a football thread, but I was responding to your last 2 sentences.

Understood. I think it works in both sports.

I can't remember the last time I read about one of these situations where there was an actual name involved. It's always a I heard, he said, they think, nobody feels, etc. I can understand anonymity, but at some point, there has to be some meat and potatoes behind the innuendo and rumors before I'm willing to buy into it.

FWIW, we have ten players on the MBB team who grew up approximately three hours or less from ODU. About 75% of the football team are from NC, VA, or MD. Not sure how we're landing all these local guys if we don't recruit the areas around us.

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I counted players on the roster last year when this came up. IIRC, 18-20% were from the 757.

Right now, 22 of 104 guys listed are from the 757, so 21.5%.

It doesn't seem to me that almost a quarter of the team would be local if the coaches didn't recruit local schools.