(05-27-2018 08:16 AM)Tor Johnson Wrote:  

(05-26-2018 04:54 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  Evan Barnes

let's give him a chance,,,,apparently the environment he got hired into may not be the best

Calm down It’s May! I think Evan is awesome. He appears to have bought into the community and culture. He tweets quite often and while it’s not always about Tiger football it often is. He gives good and timely information. He strikes me as hard working, energetic and savvy.

I had to drop him on twitter. At the time, he was tweeting 90% things other than Memphis football - which is all I care about that he has to say. Since dropping him, I don't think I've actually read anything he's written. Now I don't subscribe to the CA, but read recommended columns. But that's not a good sign for our beat writer.

(05-29-2018 01:33 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(05-27-2018 08:16 AM)Tor Johnson Wrote:  

(05-26-2018 04:54 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  Evan Barnes

let's give him a chance,,,,apparently the environment he got hired into may not be the best

Calm down It’s May! I think Evan is awesome. He appears to have bought into the community and culture. He tweets quite often and while it’s not always about Tiger football it often is. He gives good and timely information. He strikes me as hard working, energetic and savvy.

I had to drop him on twitter. At the time, he was tweeting 90% things other than Memphis football - which is all I care about that he has to say. Since dropping him, I don't think I've actually read anything he's written. Now I don't subscribe to the CA, but read recommended columns. But that's not a good sign for our beat writer.

It is safe (IMO) to abandon him on Twitter unless you are interested in topics other than Tiger football. I just checked and 87% of his tweets in the past 24 hours or so are NTR and only one was about Tiger football.

His articles, to my eye, are well written and informative.

(05-28-2018 07:37 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 06:58 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 03:46 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  I am still surprised at the Cyclones fan turnout to the Liberty Bowl last year - I would have thought it would and should have been a lot less cardinal and gold

Why does that surprise you? It was a BOWL game. An equal percentage is give to both schools. If one school didn't sell their allotment, they return them. Apart from that, the sponsors get a percentage of tickets. I can say there were almost zero, on the street tickets that didn't fit into the above two categories.

Iowa State sold out the tickets when they came the first time as well.

Why?

Of course it's a BOWL game, featuring the home team to boot.

I'm not sure what you're saying above refutes my original point. Each team was allotted 15K tickets.

That leaves close to 30K more seats available.

Was that what that crowd looked like?

Selling out your allotment of tickets before has no bearing on why they came in droves and took our seats.

Both teams were given additional tickets. "We" didn't have any seats other than what the University was given. The rest of those seats were given to corporate sponsors. A few thousand were released for public sale, but not more than that. There were thousands of those corporate seats that were resold, but they were often sold to the first bidder.

There was going to be ZERO chance that there was going to be 45,000 Memphis fans compared to 15,000 ISU fans. But, I would say the we did outnumber them by thousands. 40-20 would probably be my estimate, but it could've been a little bit more than that.

(05-28-2018 07:17 PM)3601 Wrote:  The Navy game outcome will likely factor in by a few thousand the next two games.

I would agree with both of those statements.

(05-30-2018 04:15 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 07:37 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 06:58 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 03:46 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  I am still surprised at the Cyclones fan turnout to the Liberty Bowl last year - I would have thought it would and should have been a lot less cardinal and gold

Why does that surprise you? It was a BOWL game. An equal percentage is give to both schools. If one school didn't sell their allotment, they return them. Apart from that, the sponsors get a percentage of tickets. I can say there were almost zero, on the street tickets that didn't fit into the above two categories.

Iowa State sold out the tickets when they came the first time as well.

Why?

Of course it's a BOWL game, featuring the home team to boot.

I'm not sure what you're saying above refutes my original point. Each team was allotted 15K tickets.

That leaves close to 30K more seats available.

Was that what that crowd looked like?

Selling out your allotment of tickets before has no bearing on why they came in droves and took our seats.

Both teams were given additional tickets. "We" didn't have any seats other than what the University was given. The rest of those seats were given to corporate sponsors. A few thousand were released for public sale, but not more than that. There were thousands of those corporate seats that were resold, but they were often sold to the first bidder.

There was going to be ZERO chance that there was going to be 45,000 Memphis fans compared to 15,000 ISU fans. But, I would say the we did outnumber them by thousands. 40-20 would probably be my estimate, but it could've been a little bit more than that.

it's ok man,,,,I get your unbridled football enthusiasm

Just know that most fans aren't stupid, or can't see what's what, or are still under the 'Battered Fan Syndrome' as you seem to put it in the rare times you choose to post on this board

Best crowd

Bolstered by a large contingent of Cyclones fans, Saturday's announced attendance was a sold-out 57,266, the largest crowd of the season.

Interestingly, Iowa State was the designated home team for the game, and their fans filled up about one half of the Liberty Bowl.

(05-25-2018 09:03 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  IMO, it is Mark G’s role to question the postponement. The issue is whether the reasons cited (eg, TBR redtape) are the true main reasons or if something else more serious is the reason (eg, lack of funds).

I've worked with TBR for construction projects at the UofM and the bureaucratic red tape and the hoops they make you jump through is just silly, the only ones worse are TDOT and Federal Gov.

I imagine that they are not too happy either with UofM getting there own BoR, so the red tape could be worse for this since its the final project through TBR.

As a general rule, once money from the state and bonds have been allocated for a school for a particular project it is set and cant be used for anything else. It sounds like the bids came back high, which is pretty common, but with the TBR after you redesign to make it cheaper, you have to resubmit and go through the whole approval process again which can take weeks-months.

(05-30-2018 04:52 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 04:15 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 07:37 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 06:58 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 03:46 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  I am still surprised at the Cyclones fan turnout to the Liberty Bowl last year - I would have thought it would and should have been a lot less cardinal and gold

Why does that surprise you? It was a BOWL game. An equal percentage is give to both schools. If one school didn't sell their allotment, they return them. Apart from that, the sponsors get a percentage of tickets. I can say there were almost zero, on the street tickets that didn't fit into the above two categories.

Iowa State sold out the tickets when they came the first time as well.

Why?

Of course it's a BOWL game, featuring the home team to boot.

I'm not sure what you're saying above refutes my original point. Each team was allotted 15K tickets.

That leaves close to 30K more seats available.

Was that what that crowd looked like?

Selling out your allotment of tickets before has no bearing on why they came in droves and took our seats.

Both teams were given additional tickets. "We" didn't have any seats other than what the University was given. The rest of those seats were given to corporate sponsors. A few thousand were released for public sale, but not more than that. There were thousands of those corporate seats that were resold, but they were often sold to the first bidder.

There was going to be ZERO chance that there was going to be 45,000 Memphis fans compared to 15,000 ISU fans. But, I would say the we did outnumber them by thousands. 40-20 would probably be my estimate, but it could've been a little bit more than that.

it's ok man,,,,I get your unbridled football enthusiasm

Just know that most fans aren't stupid, or can't see what's what, or are still under the 'Battered Fan Syndrome' as you seem to put it in the rare times you choose to post on this board

Best crowd

Bolstered by a large contingent of Cyclones fans, Saturday's announced attendance was a sold-out 57,266, the largest crowd of the season.

Interestingly, Iowa State was the designated home team for the game, and their fans filled up about one half of the Liberty Bowl.

Not interesting, it rotates from year to year. It was the Big 12's year to be home team. But your conspiracy theories are hilarious.

It was nowhere close to 50/50. 60/40 at worst and people still complain about it.... well, uneducated people that don't have a clue how bowl games work apparently.

And I have always been a football first fan, because football is far and away my favorite sport. But I have been to almost every sport the Tigers offer and support the teams as best as I can.

I wasn't addressing "most fans". My response was squarely directed at one that doesn't seem to understand.
I do believe the fans that think we will struggle to draw 30,000 fans this season are still suffering from years of previous failures, but it's a new time. Both major sports are headed in the right direction and it's going to be a wonderful ride!!!

(05-30-2018 05:03 PM)muffinman Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 09:03 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  IMO, it is Mark G’s role to question the postponement. The issue is whether the reasons cited (eg, TBR redtape) are the true main reasons or if something else more serious is the reason (eg, lack of funds).

I've worked with TBR for construction projects at the UofM and the bureaucratic red tape and the hoops they make you jump through is just silly, the only ones worse are TDOT and Federal Gov.

I imagine that they are not too happy either with UofM getting there own BoR, so the red tape could be worse for this since its the final project through TBR.

As a general rule, once money from the state and bonds have been allocated for a school for a particular project it is set and cant be used for anything else. It sounds like the bids came back high, which is pretty common, but with the TBR after you redesign to make it cheaper, you have to resubmit and go through the whole approval process again which can take weeks-months.

To get back to the point of the post, that is one of the things Dr Rudd was addressing. It is a huge thing to finally be out from under the control of the TBR. Even this project is no longer under its control, which I think will dramatically improve its completion.

(06-03-2018 04:41 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 04:52 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 04:15 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 07:37 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(05-28-2018 06:58 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  Why does that surprise you? It was a BOWL game. An equal percentage is give to both schools. If one school didn't sell their allotment, they return them. Apart from that, the sponsors get a percentage of tickets. I can say there were almost zero, on the street tickets that didn't fit into the above two categories.

Iowa State sold out the tickets when they came the first time as well.

Why?

Of course it's a BOWL game, featuring the home team to boot.

I'm not sure what you're saying above refutes my original point. Each team was allotted 15K tickets.

That leaves close to 30K more seats available.

Was that what that crowd looked like?

Selling out your allotment of tickets before has no bearing on why they came in droves and took our seats.

Both teams were given additional tickets. "We" didn't have any seats other than what the University was given. The rest of those seats were given to corporate sponsors. A few thousand were released for public sale, but not more than that. There were thousands of those corporate seats that were resold, but they were often sold to the first bidder.

There was going to be ZERO chance that there was going to be 45,000 Memphis fans compared to 15,000 ISU fans. But, I would say the we did outnumber them by thousands. 40-20 would probably be my estimate, but it could've been a little bit more than that.

it's ok man,,,,I get your unbridled football enthusiasm

Just know that most fans aren't stupid, or can't see what's what, or are still under the 'Battered Fan Syndrome' as you seem to put it in the rare times you choose to post on this board

Best crowd

Bolstered by a large contingent of Cyclones fans, Saturday's announced attendance was a sold-out 57,266, the largest crowd of the season.

Interestingly, Iowa State was the designated home team for the game, and their fans filled up about one half of the Liberty Bowl.

You should post here more often,,,,

Not interesting, it rotates from year to year. It was the Big 12's year to be home team. But your conspiracy theories are hilarious. (what conspiracy theories?...those words aren't mine, they're pieces from an article I pasted)

It was nowhere close to 50/50. 60/40 at worst and people still complain about it.... well, uneducated people that don't have a clue how bowl games work apparently. (I'm not complaining at all, just an observation; also, I wouldn't describe myself as uneducated, but go right ahead if you like)

And I have always been a football first fan, (no way, really?) because football is far and away my favorite sport. (that's awesome, it's mine too....more on that later) But I have been to almost every sport the Tigers offer and support the teams as best as I can.

I wasn't addressing "most fans". My response was squarely directed at one that doesn't seem to understand. (If you're talking about the LBC, I'm simply going by the eye test -- nothing more or less)

I do believe the fans that think we will struggle to draw 30,000 fans this season are still suffering from years of previous failures, but it's a new time. (I agree 100% and have never been one of those - 35-45K should be the norm) Both major sports are headed in the right direction and it's going to be a wonderful ride!!!

Glad you love football...I live a tad further from Memphis than Jackson TN, and my work schedule usually frees up after February.....so maybe we can meet up for a professional football game next Spring. Enjoy a game on a hopefully nice day at the LB, and show some civic pride to boot. After all, it is football.