(05-25-2018 08:00 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:54 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:38 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  He is 100% correct

No he's not!!

See how easy that is..............................

80k votes is the difference of Hillary and DJT... the Russian partnership with the Trump campaign was certainly worth that total.

Clapper knows it, but no one until now wanted to admit it.

and - there is nothing factual anywhere to support that.

It's just what you feel.

Well, I "feel" that Hillary was a scumbag that ran a crappy campaign and lost for that reason. How bout those equally valid "feelings"?

(05-25-2018 08:00 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:54 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:38 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  He is 100% correct

No he's not!!

See how easy that is..............................

Lo
80k votes is the difference of Hillary and DJT... the Russian partnership with the Trump campaign was certainly worth that total.

Clapper knows it, but no one until now wanted to admit it.

So maybe Hillary should have showed her azz in Michigan instead of hanging out with Hollywood sexual predators in California during the closing weeks of the campaign. Mueller can’t even prove the Russian Facebook theory or he wouldn’t be running away from having to prove his big indictments in court.

(05-25-2018 08:23 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:00 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:54 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:38 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  He is 100% correct

No he's not!!

See how easy that is..............................

80k votes is the difference of Hillary and DJT... the Russian partnership with the Trump campaign was certainly worth that total.

Clapper knows it, but no one until now wanted to admit it.

and - there is nothing factual anywhere to support that.

It's just what you feel.

Well, I "feel" that Hillary was a scumbag that ran a crappy campaign and lost for that reason. How bout those equally valid "feelings"?

our intelligence agencies know... which is why Clapper made the comment he did.

(05-25-2018 08:00 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:54 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:38 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  He is 100% correct

No he's not!!

See how easy that is..............................

80k votes is the difference of Hillary and DJT... the Russian partnership with the Trump campaign was certainly worth that total.

Clapper knows it, but no one until now wanted to admit it.

Cite your evidence to support this claim. If you have it, you may want to have a discussion with Mueller because he has been floundering for year now and hasn't been able to come up with anything close to evidence of a "Trump-Russia" partnership.

Just leaving this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPpt7-QOGKc

(05-25-2018 08:33 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:00 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:54 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:38 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  He is 100% correct

No he's not!!

See how easy that is..............................

80k votes is the difference of Hillary and DJT... the Russian partnership with the Trump campaign was certainly worth that total.

Clapper knows it, but no one until now wanted to admit it.

Cite your evidence to support this claim. If you have it, you may want to have a discussion with Mueller because he has been floundering for year now and hasn't been able to come up with anything close to evidence of a "Trump-Russia" partnership.

The former National Intelligence Director just said it, and Robert Mueller knows it. The Russians put Donald Trump in the White House.

You guys have always liked Putin, anyway.

(05-25-2018 08:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:33 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:00 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:54 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:38 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  He is 100% correct

No he's not!!

See how easy that is..............................

80k votes is the difference of Hillary and DJT... the Russian partnership with the Trump campaign was certainly worth that total.

Clapper knows it, but no one until now wanted to admit it.

Cite your evidence to support this claim. If you have it, you may want to have a discussion with Mueller because he has been floundering for year now and hasn't been able to come up with anything close to evidence of a "Trump-Russia" partnership.

The former National Intelligence Director just said it, and Robert Mueller knows it. The Russians put Donald Trump in the White House.

You guys have always liked Putin, anyway.

First, clapper is dishonest as he committed perjury. Second there is no evidence to support your claim. No one "knows" it. They may want to believe it but that doesn't make it true.

This kind of crazy conspiracy talk is akin to the talk that Obama was a secret manchurian candidate Muslim groomed to hate and destroy America.

(05-24-2018 11:34 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  BOTTOM LINE:

Clapper is an idiot.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

He’s not an idiot. He’s using every KGB trick of mis-information in the book.

He is doing the EXACT SAME THINGS that the Russians were and are doing. He is doing his best to sow the seeds of doubt. Maybe not to harm the US but to try and save his own ass.

(05-25-2018 08:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:33 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:00 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:54 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:38 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  He is 100% correct

No he's not!!

See how easy that is..............................

80k votes is the difference of Hillary and DJT... the Russian partnership with the Trump campaign was certainly worth that total.

Clapper knows it, but no one until now wanted to admit it.

Cite your evidence to support this claim. If you have it, you may want to have a discussion with Mueller because he has been floundering for year now and hasn't been able to come up with anything close to evidence of a "Trump-Russia" partnership.

The former National Intelligence Director just said it, and Robert Mueller knows it. The Russians put Donald Trump in the White House.

You guys have always liked Putin, anyway.

Nope.

The Democrats put Trump in the White House by rigging their own primary and trying to coronate the worst choice a party has put up for president in 200 years.

She is a horrible campaigner and a sleezeball that Americans dislike immensely - that's why Trump won - not the Russia, Russia, Russia lie.....................

(05-25-2018 08:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:33 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:00 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:54 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:38 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  He is 100% correct

No he's not!!

See how easy that is..............................

80k votes is the difference of Hillary and DJT... the Russian partnership with the Trump campaign was certainly worth that total.

Clapper knows it, but no one until now wanted to admit it.

Cite your evidence to support this claim. If you have it, you may want to have a discussion with Mueller because he has been floundering for year now and hasn't been able to come up with anything close to evidence of a "Trump-Russia" partnership.

The former National Intelligence Director just said it, and Robert Mueller knows it. The Russians put Donald Trump in the White House.

You guys have always liked Putin, anyway.

Well hang on. He said it. Must be true. No evidence needed. Ignore the laws of this land and in peach.

Sorry "Mensa" not the way it works. We all know HRC is dirty but she's out tripping over her own feet because we don't have evidence because the feels is not evidence.

Let me sing the song of your people:

Reeeeeeeeeeeeee

And I'll leave you with a Shadilay for the weekend.

(05-25-2018 08:48 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:33 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:00 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:54 AM)Crebman Wrote:  No he's not!!

See how easy that is..............................

80k votes is the difference of Hillary and DJT... the Russian partnership with the Trump campaign was certainly worth that total.

Clapper knows it, but no one until now wanted to admit it.

Cite your evidence to support this claim. If you have it, you may want to have a discussion with Mueller because he has been floundering for year now and hasn't been able to come up with anything close to evidence of a "Trump-Russia" partnership.

The former National Intelligence Director just said it, and Robert Mueller knows it. The Russians put Donald Trump in the White House.

You guys have always liked Putin, anyway.

Nope.

The Democrats put Trump in the White House by rigging their own primary and trying to coronate the worst choice a party has put up for president in 200 years.

She is a horrible campaigner and a sleezeball that Americans dislike immensely - that's why Trump won - not the Russia, Russia, Russia lie.....................

she was a horrible campaigner and did manage to lose to a sleezeball, but even so, without the assistance of foreign intelligence in key battleground states, she would have won; and the Russians now have the satisfaction of knowing they put the current American president in office.

(05-25-2018 08:55 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:48 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:33 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:00 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  80k votes is the difference of Hillary and DJT... the Russian partnership with the Trump campaign was certainly worth that total.

Clapper knows it, but no one until now wanted to admit it.

Cite your evidence to support this claim. If you have it, you may want to have a discussion with Mueller because he has been floundering for year now and hasn't been able to come up with anything close to evidence of a "Trump-Russia" partnership.

The former National Intelligence Director just said it, and Robert Mueller knows it. The Russians put Donald Trump in the White House.

You guys have always liked Putin, anyway.

Nope.

The Democrats put Trump in the White House by rigging their own primary and trying to coronate the worst choice a party has put up for president in 200 years.

She is a horrible campaigner and a sleezeball that Americans dislike immensely - that's why Trump won - not the Russia, Russia, Russia lie.....................

she was a horrible campaigner and did manage to lose to a sleezeball, but even so, without the assistance of foreign intelligence in key battleground states, she would have won; and the Russians now have the satisfaction of knowing they put the current American president in office.

Let me stop you at she would have. You cannot quantify that. That is your feels. Try again.

(05-25-2018 08:56 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:55 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:48 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:33 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Cite your evidence to support this claim. If you have it, you may want to have a discussion with Mueller because he has been floundering for year now and hasn't been able to come up with anything close to evidence of a "Trump-Russia" partnership.

The former National Intelligence Director just said it, and Robert Mueller knows it. The Russians put Donald Trump in the White House.

You guys have always liked Putin, anyway.

Nope.

The Democrats put Trump in the White House by rigging their own primary and trying to coronate the worst choice a party has put up for president in 200 years.

She is a horrible campaigner and a sleezeball that Americans dislike immensely - that's why Trump won - not the Russia, Russia, Russia lie.....................

she was a horrible campaigner and did manage to lose to a sleezeball, but even so, without the assistance of foreign intelligence in key battleground states, she would have won; and the Russians now have the satisfaction of knowing they put the current American president in office.

Let me stop you at she would have. You cannot quantify that. That is your feels. Try again.

No, thats what the former Director of National Intelligence stated, which is why this topic is now being discussed. I'd think he was privy to information that would back up his claim and you'd like to think DJT won unassisted. Sorry, but I'm going to go with the former NID on this one.

"...Looking at how they created lies that helped Trump and hurt Clinton and promoted these falsehoods through social media and state=sponsored channels to the point that the traditional US media were unwittingly spreading Russian propaganda... and at how they ran a multifaceted campaign and sustained it at a high level from early 2015 until Election Day 2016... Of course, the Russian effort affected the outcome. Surprising even themselves, they swung the election to a Trump win. To conclude otherwise stretches logic, common sense, and credulity to the breaking point"

(05-25-2018 09:06 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:56 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:55 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:48 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The former National Intelligence Director just said it, and Robert Mueller knows it. The Russians put Donald Trump in the White House.

You guys have always liked Putin, anyway.

Nope.

The Democrats put Trump in the White House by rigging their own primary and trying to coronate the worst choice a party has put up for president in 200 years.

She is a horrible campaigner and a sleezeball that Americans dislike immensely - that's why Trump won - not the Russia, Russia, Russia lie.....................

she was a horrible campaigner and did manage to lose to a sleezeball, but even so, without the assistance of foreign intelligence in key battleground states, she would have won; and the Russians now have the satisfaction of knowing they put the current American president in office.

Let me stop you at she would have. You cannot quantify that. That is your feels. Try again.

No, thats what the former Director of National Intelligence stated, which is why this topic is now being discussed. I'd think he was privy to information that would back up his claim and you'd like to think DJT won unassisted. Sorry, but I'm going to go with the former NID on this one.

"...Looking at how they created lies that helped Trump and hurt Clinton and promoted these falsehoods through social media and state=sponsored channels to the point that the traditional US media were unwittingly spreading Russian propaganda... and at how they ran a multifaceted campaign and sustained it at a high level from early 2015 until Election Day 2016... Of course, the Russian effort affected the outcome. Surprising even themselves, they swung the election to a Trump win. To conclude otherwise stretches logic, common sense, and credulity to the breaking point"

Ok. Let me type this slowly so you can understand.

You cannot quantify who people where going to vote for before Nov 8 2016. This is why we hold elections.

If Clapper has proof he'd handed it over.

(05-25-2018 08:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:33 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:00 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:54 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:38 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  He is 100% correct

No he's not!!

See how easy that is..............................

80k votes is the difference of Hillary and DJT... the Russian partnership with the Trump campaign was certainly worth that total.

Clapper knows it, but no one until now wanted to admit it.

Cite your evidence to support this claim. If you have it, you may want to have a discussion with Mueller because he has been floundering for year now and hasn't been able to come up with anything close to evidence of a "Trump-Russia" partnership.

The former National Intelligence Director just said it, and Robert Mueller knows it. The Russians put Donald Trump in the White House.

You guys have always liked Putin, anyway.

Well, this time ya got me.

(05-25-2018 08:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:33 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:00 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:54 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:38 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  He is 100% correct

No he's not!!

See how easy that is..............................

80k votes is the difference of Hillary and DJT... the Russian partnership with the Trump campaign was certainly worth that total.

Clapper knows it, but no one until now wanted to admit it.

Cite your evidence to support this claim. If you have it, you may want to have a discussion with Mueller because he has been floundering for year now and hasn't been able to come up with anything close to evidence of a "Trump-Russia" partnership.

The former National Intelligence Director just said it, and Robert Mueller knows it. The Russians put Donald Trump in the White House.

You guys have always liked Putin, anyway.

He also said he had no evidence.

(05-25-2018 09:19 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:33 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:00 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 07:54 AM)Crebman Wrote:  No he's not!!

See how easy that is..............................

80k votes is the difference of Hillary and DJT... the Russian partnership with the Trump campaign was certainly worth that total.

Clapper knows it, but no one until now wanted to admit it.

Cite your evidence to support this claim. If you have it, you may want to have a discussion with Mueller because he has been floundering for year now and hasn't been able to come up with anything close to evidence of a "Trump-Russia" partnership.

The former National Intelligence Director just said it, and Robert Mueller knows it. The Russians put Donald Trump in the White House.

You guys have always liked Putin, anyway.

Well, this time ya got me.

Me thinks Putin learned something from John Wayne. Pick a small horse. It makes you look bigger. That must be a Shetland.

(05-25-2018 08:55 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:48 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:33 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 08:00 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  80k votes is the difference of Hillary and DJT... the Russian partnership with the Trump campaign was certainly worth that total.

Clapper knows it, but no one until now wanted to admit it.

Cite your evidence to support this claim. If you have it, you may want to have a discussion with Mueller because he has been floundering for year now and hasn't been able to come up with anything close to evidence of a "Trump-Russia" partnership.

The former National Intelligence Director just said it, and Robert Mueller knows it. The Russians put Donald Trump in the White House.

You guys have always liked Putin, anyway.

Nope.

The Democrats put Trump in the White House by rigging their own primary and trying to coronate the worst choice a party has put up for president in 200 years.

She is a horrible campaigner and a sleezeball that Americans dislike immensely - that's why Trump won - not the Russia, Russia, Russia lie.....................

she was a horrible campaigner and did manage to lose to a sleezeball, but even so, without the assistance of foreign intelligence in key battleground states, she would have won; and the Russians now have the satisfaction of knowing they put the current American president in office.

source??? and "Clapper said so" doesn't count when he says he doesn't have any evidence.

Remember the defendant has the right to a speedy trial and the prosecutor is trying to delay because trying to indict without evidence is a b*tch.

(05-25-2018 09:22 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  He also said he had no evidence.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence so Trump must prove that the Russians didn't impact the election.

Remember, guilty until proven innocent.