(05-24-2018 11:46 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: Didn't Donald Trump deny Obama's legitimacy the entire time?
To answer your question ... NO.
Conservatives in Congress also didn't attempt to get the Electoral College to change their votes so that Obama would not be elected like the radical alt left Liberals in Congress did against Trump.
Conservatives in Congress also didn't go running all over the place shouting, "Impeach 44 (Obama)" like the radical alt left Liberals in Congress have done against Trump.
The Alt Left lost and they have constantly been trying to disrupt the wheels of government every since.
Beyond that, this topic has nothing to do with Obama. He had his chance and thankfully, after ten trillion dollars of additional debt, forcing the unaffordable care act down everybody's throat, and the advent of sanctuary cities catering to illegals, he is out.
(05-24-2018 12:10 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: Just because Russia probably played both sides doesn’t mean that presidential legitimacy questions haven’t been stupid all around. My question is why isn’t it cool now?
HAMBURGER HELPER
You aren't going to answer the question. Your substance please...
(This post was last modified: 05-24-2018 01:28 PM by nomad2u2001.)
(05-24-2018 12:26 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: DJT tried to delegitimize President Obama, and so did the alt-right media... ie Breitbart, WND and a host of others.
Do you agree that Maddow operates on the same level as Breitbart and WND?
Fox News had plenty of hosts willing to play along, so it wasn't just the wacked out blogs....
that being said, the #1 birther and the person who took the whole illegitimate president movement mainstream is now our President. I guess I can understand why he might have some fear of those same questions being asked of him... particularly since they are coming from the for Director of National Intelligence.
(05-24-2018 12:38 PM)gdunn Wrote: Funny thing about what she's saying... She had no proof and therefore she's still triggered. Sorry Trump won. The EC even took votes from HRC.
CLAP ON CLAP OFF THE CLAPPER
Ok. So there was a spy in the campaign. An investigation been ongoing for a year. Where's the proof?
(05-24-2018 11:46 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: Didn't Donald Trump deny Obama's legitimacy the entire time? Didn't several others do the same thing for years? Is questioning the president's legitimacy bad now? Why?
Team sports I guess.
Of course he did... whenever the opportunity presented itself DJT tried to delegitimize President Obama, and so did the alt-right media... ie Breitbart, WND and a host of others.
(05-24-2018 12:38 PM)gdunn Wrote: Funny thing about what she's saying... She had no proof and therefore she's still triggered. Sorry Trump won. The EC even took votes from HRC.
CLAP ON CLAP OFF THE CLAPPER
Ok. So there was a spy in the campaign. An investigation been ongoing for a year. Where's the proof?
The proof is obvious. There is no proof. Except for corruption in the Hussein administration.
(05-24-2018 12:26 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: DJT tried to delegitimize President Obama, and so did the alt-right media... ie Breitbart, WND and a host of others.
Do you agree that Maddow operates on the same level as Breitbart and WND?
Fox News had plenty of hosts willing to play along, so it wasn't just the wacked out blogs....
that being said, the #1 birther and the person who took the whole illegitimate president movement mainstream is now our President. I guess I can understand why he might have some fear of those same questions being asked of him... particularly since they are coming from the for Director of National Intelligence.
Being Kenyan would be the least of obambam's problems.
(05-24-2018 02:30 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Is there proof there was a FISA warrant requested to wiretap Trump Tower?
Quote:Secret surveillance was conducted on no fewer than seven Trump associates: chief strategist Stephen Bannon; lawyer Michael Cohen; national security adviser Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn; adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner; campaign chairman Paul Manafort; and campaign foreign policy advisers Carter Page and George Papadopoulos.
The FBI reportedly applied for a secret warrant in June 2016 to monitor Manafort, Page, Papadopoulos and Flynn. If true, it means the FBI targeted Flynn six months before his much-debated conversation with Russia’s ambassador, Sergey Kislyak.
The FBI applied four times to wiretap Page after he became a Trump campaign adviser starting in July 2016. Page’s office is connected to Trump Tower and he reports having spent “many hours in Trump Tower.”
CNN reported that Manafort was wiretapped before and after the election “including during a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Trump.” Manafort reportedly has a residence in Trump Tower.
(05-24-2018 02:30 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Is there proof there was a FISA warrant requested to wiretap Trump Tower?
Quote:Secret surveillance was conducted on no fewer than seven Trump associates: chief strategist Stephen Bannon; lawyer Michael Cohen; national security adviser Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn; adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner; campaign chairman Paul Manafort; and campaign foreign policy advisers Carter Page and George Papadopoulos.
The FBI reportedly applied for a secret warrant in June 2016 to monitor Manafort, Page, Papadopoulos and Flynn. If true, it means the FBI targeted Flynn six months before his much-debated conversation with Russia’s ambassador, Sergey Kislyak.
The FBI applied four times to wiretap Page after he became a Trump campaign adviser starting in July 2016. Page’s office is connected to Trump Tower and he reports having spent “many hours in Trump Tower.”
CNN reported that Manafort was wiretapped before and after the election “including during a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Trump.” Manafort reportedly has a residence in Trump Tower.
A FISA warrant issued for surveillance of people who travel in and out of a building is not surveillance of the building. There was no fisa warrant requested for Trump Tower, as Clapper attested.
(05-24-2018 02:30 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Is there proof there was a FISA warrant requested to wiretap Trump Tower?
Quote:Secret surveillance was conducted on no fewer than seven Trump associates: chief strategist Stephen Bannon; lawyer Michael Cohen; national security adviser Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn; adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner; campaign chairman Paul Manafort; and campaign foreign policy advisers Carter Page and George Papadopoulos.
The FBI reportedly applied for a secret warrant in June 2016 to monitor Manafort, Page, Papadopoulos and Flynn. If true, it means the FBI targeted Flynn six months before his much-debated conversation with Russia’s ambassador, Sergey Kislyak.
The FBI applied four times to wiretap Page after he became a Trump campaign adviser starting in July 2016. Page’s office is connected to Trump Tower and he reports having spent “many hours in Trump Tower.”
CNN reported that Manafort was wiretapped before and after the election “including during a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Trump.” Manafort reportedly has a residence in Trump Tower.
A FISA warrant issued for surveillance of people who travel in and out of a building is not surveillance of the building. There was no fisa warrant requested for Trump Tower, as Clapper attested.
(05-24-2018 02:30 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Is there proof there was a FISA warrant requested to wiretap Trump Tower?
Quote:Secret surveillance was conducted on no fewer than seven Trump associates: chief strategist Stephen Bannon; lawyer Michael Cohen; national security adviser Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn; adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner; campaign chairman Paul Manafort; and campaign foreign policy advisers Carter Page and George Papadopoulos.
The FBI reportedly applied for a secret warrant in June 2016 to monitor Manafort, Page, Papadopoulos and Flynn. If true, it means the FBI targeted Flynn six months before his much-debated conversation with Russia’s ambassador, Sergey Kislyak.
The FBI applied four times to wiretap Page after he became a Trump campaign adviser starting in July 2016. Page’s office is connected to Trump Tower and he reports having spent “many hours in Trump Tower.”
CNN reported that Manafort was wiretapped before and after the election “including during a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Trump.” Manafort reportedly has a residence in Trump Tower.
A FISA warrant issued for surveillance of people who travel in and out of a building is not surveillance of the building. There was no fisa warrant requested for Trump Tower, as Clapper attested.
"clapper attested"
(This post was last modified: 05-24-2018 03:49 PM by hoopfan.)