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RE: Cronin to Toronto
(05-26-2018 05:44 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 11:37 AM)Lush Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 10:52 AM)crex043 Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 10:21 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  I'm not unhappy with UC...I'm unhappy with Cronin and his supporters. I'm also unhappy that we can't do what XU does regularly on a smaller AD budget. Totally different than being upset with UC. If I didn't care then I wouldn't post.

Why are you unhappy with Cronin's supporters? Do you want to pee in everyone's Wheaties?

XU likely has a larger budget for basketball. They get a better media deal than UC and don't fund as many sports as UC. Xavier doesn't have as robust (healthy) an AD as UC does.

Just because you post doesn't mean you're correct or that your opinion is worth more than others.

yeah i don't get it. most of us realize the situation mick and we as fans are in. we're pretty close to being on the cusp of a being a significant conference. aac football is watered down old big east football in terms of respect nationally but it's arguably better. seems like there's always consistent betterness. basketball's not bad but a shell of what it could be

i've come to accept our lot and embrace the situation we are in because lawd knows ah can't change it. i don't even go the games or buy merch. jes' listen to on the radio. i'm tired of not cutting mick slack man. don't you get it?

the man constantly has to overachieve. i could try and make a mike short joke about the bar being too high but i won't do it. always have had respect for the man and you may criticize his techniques, philosophy etcetera but if he was that difficult to play for, his kids wouldn't stick it out. they generally do. i can't think of how many guys i say to myself, he can't find the court. he's gonna transfer. jermaine sanders, shaq, biggie, jenifer, well that's probably it. mick's only lost a handful

there you have it i guess. on behalf of cronin apologists

You see...there's your problem...we CAN do better...and HAVE done better in a similar situation...all it took was a coaching change and the courage to do it.

But if you are married to Cronin as coach...and happy with 1st weekend exits...I guess you are satisfied.

Message me during the next ice age when UC is in the P5....it's not happening any time soon.

you better be careful there homeboy, you're on the verge of becoming duane
 
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RE: Cronin to Toronto
(05-27-2018 02:12 PM)Lush Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 05:44 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 11:37 AM)Lush Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 10:52 AM)crex043 Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 10:21 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  I'm not unhappy with UC...I'm unhappy with Cronin and his supporters. I'm also unhappy that we can't do what XU does regularly on a smaller AD budget. Totally different than being upset with UC. If I didn't care then I wouldn't post.

Why are you unhappy with Cronin's supporters? Do you want to pee in everyone's Wheaties?

XU likely has a larger budget for basketball. They get a better media deal than UC and don't fund as many sports as UC. Xavier doesn't have as robust (healthy) an AD as UC does.

Just because you post doesn't mean you're correct or that your opinion is worth more than others.

yeah i don't get it. most of us realize the situation mick and we as fans are in. we're pretty close to being on the cusp of a being a significant conference. aac football is watered down old big east football in terms of respect nationally but it's arguably better. seems like there's always consistent betterness. basketball's not bad but a shell of what it could be

i've come to accept our lot and embrace the situation we are in because lawd knows ah can't change it. i don't even go the games or buy merch. jes' listen to on the radio. i'm tired of not cutting mick slack man. don't you get it?

the man constantly has to overachieve. i could try and make a mike short joke about the bar being too high but i won't do it. always have had respect for the man and you may criticize his techniques, philosophy etcetera but if he was that difficult to play for, his kids wouldn't stick it out. they generally do. i can't think of how many guys i say to myself, he can't find the court. he's gonna transfer. jermaine sanders, shaq, biggie, jenifer, well that's probably it. mick's only lost a handful

there you have it i guess. on behalf of cronin apologists

You see...there's your problem...we CAN do better...and HAVE done better in a similar situation...all it took was a coaching change and the courage to do it.

But if you are married to Cronin as coach...and happy with 1st weekend exits...I guess you are satisfied.

Message me during the next ice age when UC is in the P5....it's not happening any time soon.

you better be careful there homeboy, you're on the verge of becoming duane
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RE: Cronin to Toronto
(05-27-2018 02:12 PM)Lush Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 05:44 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 11:37 AM)Lush Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 10:52 AM)crex043 Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 10:21 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  I'm not unhappy with UC...I'm unhappy with Cronin and his supporters. I'm also unhappy that we can't do what XU does regularly on a smaller AD budget. Totally different than being upset with UC. If I didn't care then I wouldn't post.

Why are you unhappy with Cronin's supporters? Do you want to pee in everyone's Wheaties?

XU likely has a larger budget for basketball. They get a better media deal than UC and don't fund as many sports as UC. Xavier doesn't have as robust (healthy) an AD as UC does.

Just because you post doesn't mean you're correct or that your opinion is worth more than others.

yeah i don't get it. most of us realize the situation mick and we as fans are in. we're pretty close to being on the cusp of a being a significant conference. aac football is watered down old big east football in terms of respect nationally but it's arguably better. seems like there's always consistent betterness. basketball's not bad but a shell of what it could be

i've come to accept our lot and embrace the situation we are in because lawd knows ah can't change it. i don't even go the games or buy merch. jes' listen to on the radio. i'm tired of not cutting mick slack man. don't you get it?

the man constantly has to overachieve. i could try and make a mike short joke about the bar being too high but i won't do it. always have had respect for the man and you may criticize his techniques, philosophy etcetera but if he was that difficult to play for, his kids wouldn't stick it out. they generally do. i can't think of how many guys i say to myself, he can't find the court. he's gonna transfer. jermaine sanders, shaq, biggie, jenifer, well that's probably it. mick's only lost a handful

there you have it i guess. on behalf of cronin apologists

You see...there's your problem...we CAN do better...and HAVE done better in a similar situation...all it took was a coaching change and the courage to do it.

But if you are married to Cronin as coach...and happy with 1st weekend exits...I guess you are satisfied.

Message me during the next ice age when UC is in the P5....it's not happening any time soon.

you better be careful there homeboy, you're on the verge of becoming duane

I don't see it...Duane is unconditional support for the program absent critical analysis (he could very well be a "bot"). I hold no such unconditional support.
 
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RE: Cronin to Toronto
(05-28-2018 04:25 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(05-27-2018 02:12 PM)Lush Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 05:44 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 11:37 AM)Lush Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 10:52 AM)crex043 Wrote:  Why are you unhappy with Cronin's supporters? Do you want to pee in everyone's Wheaties?

XU likely has a larger budget for basketball. They get a better media deal than UC and don't fund as many sports as UC. Xavier doesn't have as robust (healthy) an AD as UC does.

Just because you post doesn't mean you're correct or that your opinion is worth more than others.

yeah i don't get it. most of us realize the situation mick and we as fans are in. we're pretty close to being on the cusp of a being a significant conference. aac football is watered down old big east football in terms of respect nationally but it's arguably better. seems like there's always consistent betterness. basketball's not bad but a shell of what it could be

i've come to accept our lot and embrace the situation we are in because lawd knows ah can't change it. i don't even go the games or buy merch. jes' listen to on the radio. i'm tired of not cutting mick slack man. don't you get it?

the man constantly has to overachieve. i could try and make a mike short joke about the bar being too high but i won't do it. always have had respect for the man and you may criticize his techniques, philosophy etcetera but if he was that difficult to play for, his kids wouldn't stick it out. they generally do. i can't think of how many guys i say to myself, he can't find the court. he's gonna transfer. jermaine sanders, shaq, biggie, jenifer, well that's probably it. mick's only lost a handful

there you have it i guess. on behalf of cronin apologists

You see...there's your problem...we CAN do better...and HAVE done better in a similar situation...all it took was a coaching change and the courage to do it.

But if you are married to Cronin as coach...and happy with 1st weekend exits...I guess you are satisfied.

Message me during the next ice age when UC is in the P5....it's not happening any time soon.

you better be careful there homeboy, you're on the verge of becoming duane

I don't see it...Duane is unconditional support for the program absent critical analysis (he could very well be a "bot"). I hold no such unconditional support.
You're the yang to his yin, appropriately.
 
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RE: Cronin to Toronto
(05-28-2018 06:51 PM)crex043 Wrote:  
(05-28-2018 04:25 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(05-27-2018 02:12 PM)Lush Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 05:44 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 11:37 AM)Lush Wrote:  yeah i don't get it. most of us realize the situation mick and we as fans are in. we're pretty close to being on the cusp of a being a significant conference. aac football is watered down old big east football in terms of respect nationally but it's arguably better. seems like there's always consistent betterness. basketball's not bad but a shell of what it could be

i've come to accept our lot and embrace the situation we are in because lawd knows ah can't change it. i don't even go the games or buy merch. jes' listen to on the radio. i'm tired of not cutting mick slack man. don't you get it?

the man constantly has to overachieve. i could try and make a mike short joke about the bar being too high but i won't do it. always have had respect for the man and you may criticize his techniques, philosophy etcetera but if he was that difficult to play for, his kids wouldn't stick it out. they generally do. i can't think of how many guys i say to myself, he can't find the court. he's gonna transfer. jermaine sanders, shaq, biggie, jenifer, well that's probably it. mick's only lost a handful

there you have it i guess. on behalf of cronin apologists

You see...there's your problem...we CAN do better...and HAVE done better in a similar situation...all it took was a coaching change and the courage to do it.

But if you are married to Cronin as coach...and happy with 1st weekend exits...I guess you are satisfied.

Message me during the next ice age when UC is in the P5....it's not happening any time soon.

you better be careful there homeboy, you're on the verge of becoming duane

I don't see it...Duane is unconditional support for the program absent critical analysis (he could very well be a "bot"). I hold no such unconditional support.
You're the yang to his yin, appropriately.

there can be no duane without not duane
 
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RE: Cronin to Toronto
(05-26-2018 10:21 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 07:12 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 01:29 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(05-25-2018 07:06 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  
(05-25-2018 06:18 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  I don't believe any UC fan's expectations is just to get in and call it a day. It boils down to stick with Cronin or hire someone else. That is another argument for another thread. I'm simply saying, we shouldn't just fluff off the fact that we regularly make the dance like that is no big deal. Here is the list of programs with current active consecutive tournament appearances:

Kansas 29
Duke 23
Michigan State 21
Gonzaga 20
Cincinnati 8
North Carolina 8
Wichita State 7
Arizona 6
Villanova 6

Look at Gonzaga! 20 straight tournament appearances and 0 titles. What a bunch of losers!

3... 2... 1...

Gee...you're funny...let's compare Gonzaga's post-season winning percentage to Cronin's:

Mark Few: .574
Mick Cronin: .384

I'll take Mark Few thanks very much...oh...and he did it in a crap conference...weaker than the AAC, so obviously he can recruit...hmmm...recruiting....let's compare that while we're at it:

NBA lottery picks for Mark Few: 8
NBA lottery picks for Mick Cronin: 1

Cronin comes up looking pretty crappy here...you certain you want to push this?

NBA has come knocking on Few's door with regularity as well. Seems his skills are wanted...also seems like WINNING IMPROVES RECRUITING EVEN IN A CRAP CONFERENCE.

Do you get tired of being so wrong all the time? Or do you just live in Cronin's jockstrap?

Well we ALL wish we were as smart as you.

Listen up. All I'm saying is that things aren't as bad as some on here make it out to be.

Do I want us to win more? Heck yeah. But I for one don't subscribe to the fashionable constant blaming of the coach (AKA whining) because some of us understand that you don't just snap your fingers and field a competitive team and you don't roll the ball out on the court and make the NCAA every year.

If you're so dang miserable with UC then I suggest you go down to Walmart and use your employee discount to get a Duke T-shirt.

I'm not unhappy with UC...I'm unhappy with Cronin and his supporters. I'm also unhappy that we can't do what XU does regularly on a smaller AD budget. Totally different than being upset with UC. If I didn't care then I wouldn't post.

Crash out in the Round of 32 with a high seed?

I thought that was EXACTLY what you are unhappy about already...
 
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RE: Cronin to Toronto
(05-29-2018 01:09 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 10:21 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 07:12 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 01:29 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(05-25-2018 07:06 PM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  Look at Gonzaga! 20 straight tournament appearances and 0 titles. What a bunch of losers!

3... 2... 1...

Gee...you're funny...let's compare Gonzaga's post-season winning percentage to Cronin's:

Mark Few: .574
Mick Cronin: .384

I'll take Mark Few thanks very much...oh...and he did it in a crap conference...weaker than the AAC, so obviously he can recruit...hmmm...recruiting....let's compare that while we're at it:

NBA lottery picks for Mark Few: 8
NBA lottery picks for Mick Cronin: 1

Cronin comes up looking pretty crappy here...you certain you want to push this?

NBA has come knocking on Few's door with regularity as well. Seems his skills are wanted...also seems like WINNING IMPROVES RECRUITING EVEN IN A CRAP CONFERENCE.

Do you get tired of being so wrong all the time? Or do you just live in Cronin's jockstrap?

Well we ALL wish we were as smart as you.

Listen up. All I'm saying is that things aren't as bad as some on here make it out to be.

Do I want us to win more? Heck yeah. But I for one don't subscribe to the fashionable constant blaming of the coach (AKA whining) because some of us understand that you don't just snap your fingers and field a competitive team and you don't roll the ball out on the court and make the NCAA every year.

If you're so dang miserable with UC then I suggest you go down to Walmart and use your employee discount to get a Duke T-shirt.

I'm not unhappy with UC...I'm unhappy with Cronin and his supporters. I'm also unhappy that we can't do what XU does regularly on a smaller AD budget. Totally different than being upset with UC. If I didn't care then I wouldn't post.

Crash out in the Round of 32 with a high seed?

I thought that was EXACTLY what you are unhappy about already...

Oops...you went there....the painful truth over the last 12 years (the Cronin era):

XU post-season winning percentage: .586
UC post-season winning percentage: .411

Let that burn in your mind for a while...a smaller school, with a smaller budget....WITHOUT FB.... kicks our a$$ in the postseason...

Now...for the capper...head-to-head:

XU vs. UC over the past 12 years:

XU: .666
UC: .333

Who owns who here? Who has the better program? The data suggest that the Muskies do.

Plain and simple...

But remember...it's OK....WE HAVE FB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stings doesn't it?
 
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(05-29-2018 01:36 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  XU vs. UC over the past 12 years:

XU: .666
UC: .333

Coincidence? I think not, fellas.

That's all I need to know.
 
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(05-29-2018 03:10 PM)crex043 Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 01:36 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  XU vs. UC over the past 12 years:

XU: .666
UC: .333

Coincidence? I think not, fellas.

That's all I need to know.

In the words of SNL's Church Lady (Dana Carvey) from days gone by, "Could it be... SATAN?"
 
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Even Mick’s family can’t defend what happened this year.
 
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RE: Cronin to Toronto
(05-29-2018 01:36 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 01:09 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 10:21 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 07:12 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 01:29 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  Gee...you're funny...let's compare Gonzaga's post-season winning percentage to Cronin's:

Mark Few: .574
Mick Cronin: .384

I'll take Mark Few thanks very much...oh...and he did it in a crap conference...weaker than the AAC, so obviously he can recruit...hmmm...recruiting....let's compare that while we're at it:

NBA lottery picks for Mark Few: 8
NBA lottery picks for Mick Cronin: 1

Cronin comes up looking pretty crappy here...you certain you want to push this?

NBA has come knocking on Few's door with regularity as well. Seems his skills are wanted...also seems like WINNING IMPROVES RECRUITING EVEN IN A CRAP CONFERENCE.

Do you get tired of being so wrong all the time? Or do you just live in Cronin's jockstrap?

Well we ALL wish we were as smart as you.

Listen up. All I'm saying is that things aren't as bad as some on here make it out to be.

Do I want us to win more? Heck yeah. But I for one don't subscribe to the fashionable constant blaming of the coach (AKA whining) because some of us understand that you don't just snap your fingers and field a competitive team and you don't roll the ball out on the court and make the NCAA every year.

If you're so dang miserable with UC then I suggest you go down to Walmart and use your employee discount to get a Duke T-shirt.

I'm not unhappy with UC...I'm unhappy with Cronin and his supporters. I'm also unhappy that we can't do what XU does regularly on a smaller AD budget. Totally different than being upset with UC. If I didn't care then I wouldn't post.

Crash out in the Round of 32 with a high seed?

I thought that was EXACTLY what you are unhappy about already...

Oops...you went there....the painful truth over the last 12 years (the Cronin era):

XU post-season winning percentage: .586
UC post-season winning percentage: .411

Let that burn in your mind for a while...a smaller school, with a smaller budget....WITHOUT FB.... kicks our a$$ in the postseason...

Now...for the capper...head-to-head:

XU vs. UC over the past 12 years:

XU: .666
UC: .333

Who owns who here? Who has the better program? The data suggest that the Muskies do.

Plain and simple...

But remember...it's OK....WE HAVE FB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stings doesn't it?

We get it. You dislike fball. Guess what, fball has nothing to do with UC’s lack of post season success or success against Eggs. Also, fball is not going away. So you might want to go root for a school without a comprehensive athletic dept.
 
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(05-29-2018 03:51 PM)Dannyboy Wrote:  Even Mick’s family can’t defend what happened this year.

who the hell can? sh!t happens
 
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(05-29-2018 09:35 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 01:36 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 01:09 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 10:21 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 07:12 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  Well we ALL wish we were as smart as you.

Listen up. All I'm saying is that things aren't as bad as some on here make it out to be.

Do I want us to win more? Heck yeah. But I for one don't subscribe to the fashionable constant blaming of the coach (AKA whining) because some of us understand that you don't just snap your fingers and field a competitive team and you don't roll the ball out on the court and make the NCAA every year.

If you're so dang miserable with UC then I suggest you go down to Walmart and use your employee discount to get a Duke T-shirt.

I'm not unhappy with UC...I'm unhappy with Cronin and his supporters. I'm also unhappy that we can't do what XU does regularly on a smaller AD budget. Totally different than being upset with UC. If I didn't care then I wouldn't post.

Crash out in the Round of 32 with a high seed?

I thought that was EXACTLY what you are unhappy about already...

Oops...you went there....the painful truth over the last 12 years (the Cronin era):

XU post-season winning percentage: .586
UC post-season winning percentage: .411

Let that burn in your mind for a while...a smaller school, with a smaller budget....WITHOUT FB.... kicks our a$$ in the postseason...

Now...for the capper...head-to-head:

XU vs. UC over the past 12 years:

XU: .666
UC: .333

Who owns who here? Who has the better program? The data suggest that the Muskies do.

Plain and simple...

But remember...it's OK....WE HAVE FB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stings doesn't it?

We get it. You dislike fball. Guess what, fball has nothing to do with UC’s lack of post season success or success against Eggs. Also, fball is not going away. So you might want to go root for a school without a comprehensive athletic dept.

which would be the school that duane is accused of rooting for. i'm glad the mods haven't stepped in as of yet. i personally don't see duane being an x fan. he exhibits the standard emotional level of extreme fandom. he is pretty puritanical though. things being as they are, not duane has to be an x fan. not duane has got to be the converse of duane. blame god if you must for abolishing what we heathens colloquially refer as opposite
 
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(05-29-2018 09:43 PM)Lush Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 03:51 PM)Dannyboy Wrote:  Even Mick’s family can’t defend what happened this year.

who the hell can? sh!t happens

For a decade and a half.
 
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(05-29-2018 09:56 PM)Lush Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 09:35 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 01:36 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 01:09 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 10:21 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  I'm not unhappy with UC...I'm unhappy with Cronin and his supporters. I'm also unhappy that we can't do what XU does regularly on a smaller AD budget. Totally different than being upset with UC. If I didn't care then I wouldn't post.

Crash out in the Round of 32 with a high seed?

I thought that was EXACTLY what you are unhappy about already...

Oops...you went there....the painful truth over the last 12 years (the Cronin era):

XU post-season winning percentage: .586
UC post-season winning percentage: .411

Let that burn in your mind for a while...a smaller school, with a smaller budget....WITHOUT FB.... kicks our a$$ in the postseason...

Now...for the capper...head-to-head:

XU vs. UC over the past 12 years:

XU: .666
UC: .333

Who owns who here? Who has the better program? The data suggest that the Muskies do.

Plain and simple...

But remember...it's OK....WE HAVE FB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stings doesn't it?

We get it. You dislike fball. Guess what, fball has nothing to do with UC’s lack of post season success or success against Eggs. Also, fball is not going away. So you might want to go root for a school without a comprehensive athletic dept.

which would be the school that duane is accused of rooting for. i'm glad the mods haven't stepped in as of yet. i personally don't see duane being an x fan. he exhibits the standard emotional level of extreme fandom. he is pretty puritanical though. things being as they are, not duane has to be an x fan. not duane has got to be the converse of duane. blame god if you must for abolishing what we heathens colloquially refer as opposite

I can't stand the fact that XU owns us on the hardwood...it's embarrassing that Nancy's coach has shackled us for so long.

I just don't see how crappy FB helps that situation.
 
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(05-29-2018 09:35 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 01:36 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 01:09 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 10:21 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 07:12 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  Well we ALL wish we were as smart as you.

Listen up. All I'm saying is that things aren't as bad as some on here make it out to be.

Do I want us to win more? Heck yeah. But I for one don't subscribe to the fashionable constant blaming of the coach (AKA whining) because some of us understand that you don't just snap your fingers and field a competitive team and you don't roll the ball out on the court and make the NCAA every year.

If you're so dang miserable with UC then I suggest you go down to Walmart and use your employee discount to get a Duke T-shirt.

I'm not unhappy with UC...I'm unhappy with Cronin and his supporters. I'm also unhappy that we can't do what XU does regularly on a smaller AD budget. Totally different than being upset with UC. If I didn't care then I wouldn't post.

Crash out in the Round of 32 with a high seed?

I thought that was EXACTLY what you are unhappy about already...

Oops...you went there....the painful truth over the last 12 years (the Cronin era):

XU post-season winning percentage: .586
UC post-season winning percentage: .411

Let that burn in your mind for a while...a smaller school, with a smaller budget....WITHOUT FB.... kicks our a$$ in the postseason...

Now...for the capper...head-to-head:

XU vs. UC over the past 12 years:

XU: .666
UC: .333

Who owns who here? Who has the better program? The data suggest that the Muskies do.

Plain and simple...

But remember...it's OK....WE HAVE FB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stings doesn't it?

We get it. You dislike fball. Guess what, fball has nothing to do with UC’s lack of post season success or success against Eggs. Also, fball is not going away. So you might want to go root for a school without a comprehensive athletic dept.

Allocation of resources, plain and simple. You can't fight a war on 2 fronts...the P5 is eating everyone's lunch in terms of allocation of talent and $$$...and it's only going to get worse.

Meanwhile, MBB is a shell of what it was under our former coach due to the lions share of the AD $$$ going to FB.

It's quite significant to note that the number of programs nationwide that are strong in both revenue sports is quite sparse considering the number of programs with both revenue sports--almost to and institution, you see either strong FB or strong MBB, but not both. The fact is, most schools with both revenue sports are weak in both areas.

There is a reason for this.
 
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RE: Cronin to Toronto
(05-30-2018 01:13 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 09:35 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 01:36 PM)Not Duane Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 01:09 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  
(05-26-2018 10:21 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  I'm not unhappy with UC...I'm unhappy with Cronin and his supporters. I'm also unhappy that we can't do what XU does regularly on a smaller AD budget. Totally different than being upset with UC. If I didn't care then I wouldn't post.

Crash out in the Round of 32 with a high seed?

I thought that was EXACTLY what you are unhappy about already...

Oops...you went there....the painful truth over the last 12 years (the Cronin era):

XU post-season winning percentage: .586
UC post-season winning percentage: .411

Let that burn in your mind for a while...a smaller school, with a smaller budget....WITHOUT FB.... kicks our a$$ in the postseason...

Now...for the capper...head-to-head:

XU vs. UC over the past 12 years:

XU: .666
UC: .333

Who owns who here? Who has the better program? The data suggest that the Muskies do.

Plain and simple...

But remember...it's OK....WE HAVE FB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stings doesn't it?

We get it. You dislike fball. Guess what, fball has nothing to do with UC’s lack of post season success or success against Eggs. Also, fball is not going away. So you might want to go root for a school without a comprehensive athletic dept.

Allocation of resources, plain and simple. You can't fight a war on 2 fronts...the P5 is eating everyone's lunch in terms of allocation of talent and $$$...and it's only going to get worse.

Meanwhile, MBB is a shell of what it was under our former coach due to the lions share of the AD $$$ going to FB.

It's quite significant to note that the number of programs nationwide that are strong in both revenue sports is quite sparse considering the number of programs with both revenue sports--almost to and institution, you see either strong FB or strong MBB, but not both. The fact is, most schools with both revenue sports are weak in both areas.

There is a reason for this.

Men’s basketball is in the same place it was during the second half of Huggins tenure. College basketball isn’t as popular as college football. UC football even with the recent downturn is so far ahead of where it was twenty years ago. You can win at both. UC has proven that already.
 
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Those who continue to bring up dropping football can’t see the forest thru the trees. Other than WIchita State (who is bank rolled by the billionaire Koch Brothers) name me another public school that plays basketball at a high level without an FBS football program.

Do you people actually think we’d be in the Big East or the ACC if we’d drop football? We’d likely be right where we are, getting even a smaller percentage of the conference revenue because we are not in for football. Moreover we would lose a lot of revenue that comes in on the football side from donations, ticket and merchandise, college playoff revenue shares, bowl revenue shares, etc.

Dropping football would actually harm the basketball program, as well as the other Olympic sports.
 
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(05-29-2018 09:43 PM)Lush Wrote:  
(05-29-2018 03:51 PM)Dannyboy Wrote:  Even Mick’s family can’t defend what happened this year.

who the hell can? sh!t happens

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(05-30-2018 06:59 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Those who continue to bring up dropping football can’t see the forest thru the trees. Other than WIchita State (who is bank rolled by the billionaire Koch Brothers) name me another public school that plays basketball at a high level without an FBS football program.

Do you people actually think we’d be in the Big East or the ACC if we’d drop football? We’d likely be right where we are, getting even a smaller percentage of the conference revenue because we are not in for football. Moreover we would lose a lot of revenue that comes in on the football side from donations, ticket and merchandise, college playoff revenue shares, bowl revenue shares, etc.

Dropping football would actually harm the basketball program, as well as the other Olympic sports.

Foosball drives the bus. You're preaching to the choir Clifton save one...
 
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