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Can anyone find a copy or article on the Michigan state law that requires U of M and MSU to play in state schools, i.e. CMU, WMU, etc..? Would like to distribute that to my legislators.

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05-22-2018 11:33 AM
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(05-22-2018 11:33 AM)RitzHuskie Wrote:  Can anyone find a copy or article on the Michigan state law that requires U of M and MSU to play in state schools, i.e. CMU, WMU, etc..? Would like to distribute that to my legislators.

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Good call, please do.

We packed NU stadium, they of course would do the same for us. Why not give Evanston/Dekalb/Urbana gas stations and liquor stores an extra shot in the arm every 4-5 years?

Also would be good for elevating the importance of college football in the state of Illinois in general.

Local PigTen cowardliness is the hurdle, good luck.
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(05-22-2018 03:48 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  
(05-22-2018 11:33 AM)RitzHuskie Wrote:  Can anyone find a copy or article on the Michigan state law that requires U of M and MSU to play in state schools, i.e. CMU, WMU, etc..? Would like to distribute that to my legislators.

Thanks in advance.

Good call, please do.

We packed NU stadium, they of course would do the same for us. Why not give Evanston/Dekalb/Urbana gas stations and liquor stores an extra shot in the arm every 4-5 years?

Also would be good for elevating the importance of college football in the state of Illinois in general.

Local PigTen cowardliness is the hurdle, good luck.

Yea it desperately needs that.
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Illinois will never, EVER play in DeKalb. Book it. Northwestern unlikely to as well.
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Assuming such a law exists and is similarly passed in IL, it wouldn't apply to NW since it's a private school.
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(05-22-2018 05:00 PM)NIUHuskie4life Wrote:  Assuming such a law exists and is similarly passed in IL, it wouldn't apply to NW since it's a private school.

They would be more open to it then Illness sadly. Maybe they would sign on out of good faith.

The proposed stadium upgrades would take some of the wind out of any argument Illini could put forth. We're an equivalent program at the very least, they should grow a pair.
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Dear Huskies,
There is no law as described above. There was an agreement with Michigan State to play at the Michigan MAC schools. That agreement is now over. University of Michigan was never a part of the agreement. Each MAC school had to play at Michigan State twice, and then Michigan State would play at the MAC school.
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(05-23-2018 08:12 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Huskies,
There is no law as described above. There was an agreement with Michigan State to play at the Michigan MAC schools. That agreement is now over. University of Michigan was never a part of the agreement. Each MAC school had to play at Michigan State twice, and then Michigan State would play at the MAC school.

Thanks for posting.

Still a sweet deal compared to the Illini purposely ignoring the 800 pound NIU-Mac gorilla in the middle of the room...
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(05-22-2018 03:48 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Also would be good for elevating the importance of college football in the state of Illinois in general.
Local PigTen cowardliness is the hurdle, good luck.

And should we be mandated to play EIU, ISU, SIU or WIU every year? Those schools would claim NIU cowardliness for not coming to their stadiums for decades.

It would be great to have Northwestern or Illinois come to DeKalb, but that's because we're looking at it only from our perspective. In that same respect, why can't Purdue, Indiana or Minnesota come to Huskie Stadium, their fans don't travel in numbers we couldn't handle.

You're going to blame Illinois and Northwestern for viewing it as a game with little to gain but much to lose? At some point you have to put loyalty for NIU aside. Get realistic and while you're at it, what exactly is your definition of the importance of college football in the state of Illinois in general?
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(05-23-2018 08:12 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  
(05-22-2018 03:48 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Also would be good for elevating the importance of college football in the state of Illinois in general.
Local PigTen cowardliness is the hurdle, good luck.

And should we be mandated to play EIU, ISU, SIU or WIU every year? Those schools would claim NIU cowardliness for not coming to their stadiums for decades.

It would be great to have Northwestern or Illinois come to DeKalb, but that's because we're looking at it only from our perspective. In that same respect, why can't Purdue, Indiana or Minnesota come to Huskie Stadium, their fans don't travel in numbers we couldn't handle.

You're going to blame Illinois and Northwestern for viewing it as a game with little to gain but much to lose? At some point you have to put loyalty for NIU aside. Get realistic and while you're at it, what exactly is your definition of the importance of college football in the state of Illinois in general?

Funny how that works around here. Plenty of folks calling out P5 teams for "ducking us" or disrespecting us. But bring up some FCS school and suddenly we are not interested or have nothing to gain.

I'd love a regular series with ISU. There's a bunch of kids from the far west burbs who go there and may be able to draw good crowds for that game.
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(05-23-2018 08:12 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  
(05-22-2018 03:48 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Also would be good for elevating the importance of college football in the state of Illinois in general.
Local PigTen cowardliness is the hurdle, good luck.

And should we be mandated to play EIU, ISU, SIU or WIU every year? Those schools would claim NIU cowardliness for not coming to their stadiums for decades.

It would be great to have Northwestern or Illinois come to DeKalb, but that's because we're looking at it only from our perspective. In that same respect, why can't Purdue, Indiana or Minnesota come to Huskie Stadium, their fans don't travel in numbers we couldn't handle.

You're going to blame Illinois and Northwestern for viewing it as a game with little to gain but much to lose? At some point you have to put loyalty for NIU aside. Get realistic and while you're at it, what exactly is your definition of the importance of college football in the state of Illinois in general?

1) We play EIU/WIU more regularly already than U of I does us. We are not avoiding those schools, U of I does seem to be avoiding avoiding us, home or away.

2) NIU and U of I are both in the FBS subdivision, EIU, WIU etc. are FCS.

3) Why do you sound like such an unpleasant d*ck in your retort?
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(05-23-2018 08:12 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  
(05-22-2018 03:48 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Also would be good for elevating the importance of college football in the state of Illinois in general.
Local PigTen cowardliness is the hurdle, good luck.

And should we be mandated to play EIU, ISU, SIU or WIU every year? Those schools would claim NIU cowardliness for not coming to their stadiums for decades.

It would be great to have Northwestern or Illinois come to DeKalb, but that's because we're looking at it only from our perspective. In that same respect, why can't Purdue, Indiana or Minnesota come to Huskie Stadium, their fans don't travel in numbers we couldn't handle.

You're going to blame Illinois and Northwestern for viewing it as a game with little to gain but much to lose? At some point you have to put loyalty for NIU aside. Get realistic and while you're at it, what exactly is your definition of the importance of college football in the state of Illinois in general?

X2. U of I doesn’t owe us anything. They’re not cowards, they don’t even care about us.
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(05-23-2018 10:24 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  1) We play EIU/WIU more regularly already than U of I does us. We are not avoiding those schools, U of I does seem to be avoiding avoiding us, home or away.
2) NIU and U of I are both in the FBS subdivision, EIU, WIU etc. are FCS.
3) Why do you sound like such an unpleasant d*ck in your retort?

With regard to No. 2 -- So what? There are no rules saying FBS schools must play other in-state FBS instead of FCS foes. Once again, as impossible as it is for you, try to take your blinders and Huskie-colored glassed off. If there are no rules, regulations, etc. requiring the ILL-ness to play NIU because we're also FBS, then this argument is pointless.
If you're going to claim it would make more economical sense for the Sham-bamas because they'd sell tickets to NIU fans, then the FCS schools could certainly use the same thinking in arguing for a game in DeKalb because they would provide more fans than Idaho, UT-Martin, Presybyterian, Murray State, North Dakota, Cal Poly, etc. If we're beating them on some recruits now because of our success relative to their lack of, then why would they wish to risk hurting themselves further with an on-field loss to us. Seriously, do you not understand the concept of little to gain but much to lose?
With regard to No. 1 -- very debatable. Using 1992 when NIU first visited the Cheat-ini, there have been four meetings. In that same span, we've hosted EIU four times, WIU four times, SIU three times, and ISU twice. Yes, Huskie fans would love to face them, but what makes you think Orange and Boo Hoo folks wouldn't prefer a more "name" opponent (i.e., Arizona State, Washington, North Carolina, etc.) as a home game to go with their own diet of cupcakes ala Texas State, Charleston Southern, or in-state FCS? The ILL-ness administration doesn't schedule to please you.
Since 1992, UCLA has faced Fresno State eight times, San Jose State once, Cal State-Fullerton once; USC has faced San Diego State three times, San Jose State four and Fresno four. Guess there are no rules or regulations on those "Pic10s" having to play FCS to make a Cal Poly or Santa Clara happy.
With regard to No. 3 -- because fans like you make us look so myopic, naivie and unrealistic not to mention petty with your "PigTen" comments. You honestly think insulting them will get us a game? Maybe they didn't appreciate that full page ad? Since ISU has regularly had post-season success, perhaps the Red-tirds think we're ducking them. Then again since they had a coach stupid enough to raise the notion of Novak's staff stealing a playbook, I don't care if we ever play the ab-Normal thinkers. See how easy it is to throw out pejorative words? Did it help change your narrow-minded views?
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