I figured that was coming... Hey I am jusst telling you what UF said...

(06-01-2018 10:59 AM)Bull Wrote:  You guys that hate 2-1 are aiming high... don't want to step down off the P5 standard. I get that and I admire it... I think the rest of us are just trying to be realistic. We need to play these guys, and there are about 20 or so premiere programs that very likely won't do a 1-1 with an AAC school. We get 3 shots to take down UF, and they come to RJS. If we want to step up, this is an opportunity.

Also, FWIW I noticed that UF said one of the big reasons they made the deal was to play in RJS. Interesting positive for where we play... vs. a smaller cheaper OCS. While the OCS would be nice to develop those traditions, etc., there is definitely a benefit (that many here will never acknowledge) to playing in an NFL stadium that has hosted Super Bowls.

Florida also said the reason they scheduled it is because we have a quality program that will enhance their CFP resume, and was done to beef up their non conf. Read the TBT article.

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/florida-g...ll-series/

But Mullen said that wasn't really a thought in the scheduling process. It was more about getting the kind of in-state games he wants, plus the chance to play one of the nation's top Group of Five teams.

"That's what it is," Mullen said of Charlie Strong's USF program. "Charlie's doing a great job."

If Mullen builds UF into a College Football Playoff contender, scheduling a Bulls team that consistently ranks among the nation's top 10 Group of Five teams could pay off for the Gators.

Remember what happened to Alabama last year. The Crimson Tide was on the playoff bubble thanks in part to a weaker-than-expected schedule. The marquee non-conference opponent (Florida State) wasn't marquee after all, and the SEC West slipped.

Fortunately for 'Bama, the Tide had two other solid non-conference opponents, both outside the Power Five. Colorado State finished as a top-50 team (according to the S&P+ advanced metrics). Fresno State won 10 games, played in the Mountain West title game and ended up as one of the Tide's top three regular-season wins. If both teams had been weaker, maybe the final playoff spot would have gone to Ohio State, not 'Bama.

There's no guarantee that USF will keep producing top-25 seasons, just as there's no guarantee that UF will become a championship contender. But if the latter happens, the Gators need to schedule non-conference teams that could help their resume.

Like the Bulls.

"I think it'll be a great challenge," Mullen said.

Lol

Or maybe, your AD was just throwing his “P5” buddies a bunch of bones befofe he bolted to Utah.

(06-01-2018 12:23 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(06-01-2018 10:59 AM)Bull Wrote:  You guys that hate 2-1 are aiming high... don't want to step down off the P5 standard. I get that and I admire it... I think the rest of us are just trying to be realistic. We need to play these guys, and there are about 20 or so premiere programs that very likely won't do a 1-1 with an AAC school. We get 3 shots to take down UF, and they come to RJS. If we want to step up, this is an opportunity.

Also, FWIW I noticed that UF said one of the big reasons they made the deal was to play in RJS. Interesting positive for where we play... vs. a smaller cheaper OCS. While the OCS would be nice to develop those traditions, etc., there is definitely a benefit (that many here will never acknowledge) to playing in an NFL stadium that has hosted Super Bowls.

Florida also said the reason they scheduled it is because we have a quality program that will enhance their CFP resume, and was done to beef up their non conf. Read the TBT article.

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/florida-g...ll-series/

But Mullen said that wasn't really a thought in the scheduling process. It was more about getting the kind of in-state games he wants, plus the chance to play one of the nation's top Group of Five teams.

"That's what it is," Mullen said of Charlie Strong's USF program. "Charlie's doing a great job."

If Mullen builds UF into a College Football Playoff contender, scheduling a Bulls team that consistently ranks among the nation's top 10 Group of Five teams could pay off for the Gators.

Remember what happened to Alabama last year. The Crimson Tide was on the playoff bubble thanks in part to a weaker-than-expected schedule. The marquee non-conference opponent (Florida State) wasn't marquee after all, and the SEC West slipped.

Fortunately for 'Bama, the Tide had two other solid non-conference opponents, both outside the Power Five. Colorado State finished as a top-50 team (according to the S&P+ advanced metrics). Fresno State won 10 games, played in the Mountain West title game and ended up as one of the Tide's top three regular-season wins. If both teams had been weaker, maybe the final playoff spot would have gone to Ohio State, not 'Bama.

There's no guarantee that USF will keep producing top-25 seasons, just as there's no guarantee that UF will become a championship contender. But if the latter happens, the Gators need to schedule non-conference teams that could help their resume.

Like the Bulls.

"I think it'll be a great challenge," Mullen said.

You realize you just said I like having the negatives of the current stadium as opposed to the positives and no negatives of the OCS? This series of games wouldn't change at all and you would have total control of OCS for every other game which is 99% of them?

wow, bama's schedule was trash, they have no room to talk.

(05-30-2018 11:05 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  It was actually a 3v1 so they’d open our stadium.

Wrong.

The last time UCF signed a 2-for-1 contract when in 2006, UCF was able to secure the 2005 National Championship Texas Longhorn that agreed to be UCF's first ever opponent in the first game ever played at UCF's first ever on-campus football stadium...and ESPN2 agreed to televise this game on it's Saturday Afternoon prime spot 3:30 pm, which was a HUGE get for then CUSA UCF team. (It was hotter than Hades...93 degrees, 88% humidity, but fortunately, a 5-10 min downpour came that cooked things off for a few mins).





Games were
2007: at UCF
2009, 2011 at Texas

2011 game was pushed back twice (finally to 2023) and Texas just bought it out.

(06-01-2018 12:23 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(06-01-2018 10:59 AM)Bull Wrote:  You guys that hate 2-1 are aiming high... don't want to step down off the P5 standard. I get that and I admire it... I think the rest of us are just trying to be realistic. We need to play these guys, and there are about 20 or so premiere programs that very likely won't do a 1-1 with an AAC school. We get 3 shots to take down UF, and they come to RJS. If we want to step up, this is an opportunity.

Also, FWIW I noticed that UF said one of the big reasons they made the deal was to play in RJS. Interesting positive for where we play... vs. a smaller cheaper OCS. While the OCS would be nice to develop those traditions, etc., there is definitely a benefit (that many here will never acknowledge) to playing in an NFL stadium that has hosted Super Bowls.

Florida also said the reason they scheduled it is because we have a quality program that will enhance their CFP resume, and was done to beef up their non conf. Read the TBT article.

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/florida-g...ll-series/

But Mullen said that wasn't really a thought in the scheduling process. It was more about getting the kind of in-state games he wants, plus the chance to play one of the nation's top Group of Five teams.

"That's what it is," Mullen said of Charlie Strong's USF program. "Charlie's doing a great job."

If Mullen builds UF into a College Football Playoff contender, scheduling a Bulls team that consistently ranks among the nation's top 10 Group of Five teams could pay off for the Gators.

Remember what happened to Alabama last year. The Crimson Tide was on the playoff bubble thanks in part to a weaker-than-expected schedule. The marquee non-conference opponent (Florida State) wasn't marquee after all, and the SEC West slipped.

Fortunately for 'Bama, the Tide had two other solid non-conference opponents, both outside the Power Five. Colorado State finished as a top-50 team (according to the S&P+ advanced metrics). Fresno State won 10 games, played in the Mountain West title game and ended up as one of the Tide's top three regular-season wins. If both teams had been weaker, maybe the final playoff spot would have gone to Ohio State, not 'Bama.

There's no guarantee that USF will keep producing top-25 seasons, just as there's no guarantee that UF will become a championship contender. But if the latter happens, the Gators need to schedule non-conference teams that could help their resume.

Like the Bulls.

"I think it'll be a great challenge," Mullen said.

USF can beat lurch Mullen. He just saw Tampa as a home game due to a 100 years of Florida alums. UTK always considered playing us in the liberty bowl as a home game until we beat Peyton. USF needs to just humiliate the gators. It can be done. I'm pulling for you. Frick flariduh

It's tough, they have a big advantage. That's what makes the 3 NY bowl wins against top P5 teams (UCFx2; UHx1) so damn impressive.

I couldn't believe it when we beat FSU with a backup QB (BJ Daniels).

I think we played UM 6 times and won one game? That still sticks in my craw... there was a 6-3 loss in there against UM that was inexcusable. Totally winnable game. That was on Holtz entirely!!

(05-30-2018 11:05 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 10:46 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 02:36 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 12:58 PM)pesik Wrote:  outside of ucf fans trying to rag on usf, everyone here is perfectly fine with a 2 for 1 with florida...ucf fan would take it in a heart beat....

Louisville 2 for 1 is the issue

I would not take it in a heartbeat, nor would any UCF fan that has chimed in on our own board. Stop trying to make wild, ignorant assumptions.

By the way- this really isn't even a 2-1 for USF. Raymond James will be jammed 70/30 with UF fans. What good is that? Who cares about signing a 2-1 if the 3rd game is just another home game for the other team?

ucf had a 1 and done with texas (before being cancelled)...you played a 1 and done with Michigan..ucf fans were 100% thrilled with those games when they were announced..buy games are worse than 2 for 1

you can play denial all you want, on the 2% chance you are being genuine, youd be the extremely little minority...if i told average ucf fans they had the opportunity to play florida 3 years in a row, they jump at it in a heart beat regardless of location...

literally no one remember the game stipulations when the games are played..and you can deny it all you want, a chance to beat florida is the pinnacle for the casual ucf fans regardless of location....the average houston fan couldnt tell you the stipulations of the #3 oklahoma (2016) or #5 oklahoma state (2009) games. all they know is that we won....hint it wasnt 1 and 1 ...

It was actually a 3v1 so they’d open our stadium.

Link

(06-04-2018 07:47 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(05-30-2018 11:05 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  It was actually a 3v1 so they’d open our stadium.

Wrong.

The last time UCF signed a 2-for-1 contract when in 2006, UCF was able to secure the 2005 National Championship Texas Longhorn that agreed to be UCF's first ever opponent in the first game ever played at UCF's first ever on-campus football stadium...and ESPN2 agreed to televise this game on it's Saturday Afternoon prime spot 3:30 pm, which was a HUGE get for then CUSA UCF team. (It was hotter than Hades...93 degrees, 88% humidity, but fortunately, a 5-10 min downpour came that cooked things off for a few mins).





Games were
2007: at UCF
2009, 2011 at Texas

2011 game was pushed back twice (finally to 2023) and Texas just bought it out.

Yes...Texas was a 2-for-1 when it was signed. We also signed another 2-for-1 after that...against Miami. But, after one game in Miami and one game at UCF, the third game never got played and I think eventually was just cancelled or bought out.

Yes KL is correct

(05-31-2018 10:06 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-31-2018 08:23 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  I love how you again pretend to speak for "UCF fans". You have no idea.

Texas was not a 1 for 1. You are again wildly incorrect and speaking about something you don't understand. It was actually a 2-1 in which we got the 2007 home game to open BHNS. We went there in 2009. The third game kept getting pushed and now both teams agreed to drop it.

UCF fans were thrilled with Michigan as a 1 and done? Who was? I wasn't. Most fans on the UCF board weren't. Again, you are pretending to speak for UCF fans when you have nothing to base this on.

Houston fans remember that you beat Oklahoma. Ok, so what? Most other fans don't remember that at this point. What UCF fans do remember is beating Baylor in the Fiesta Bowl. Beating Auburn in the Peach Bowl. Beating Penn State in Happy Valley. The epic USF game last Black Friday.

If Florida wants to mandate that they'll only play a program like UCF if it's a 2-1 and the "home game" is at the Citrus Dump then fine. I vote to decline that every single time. Either we get a 1-1 with a game at BHNS or nothing. I absolutely do not care if we ever play UF or FSU again if they refuse to play at BHNS.

Why do you think these teams seek out USF for 2-1's? It's because they know the game will be at RJS where the majority of seats will be filled with their fans. It's a con.

why are you speaking for all ucf fans? ..2 other ucf fans respond to my post not even denying it, and one responded to say he would do it in a heart beat... you have the minority opinion, very minority

and also the internet was around in 2013...in this forum you say?

here is a thread by ucf fans getting excited to get paid 1.5 million by michigan before fans from other schools attacked, and then other ucf pointed out it was Michigan
--basically this exact thread.....but ucf being attacked not the attacker..not single ucf fan in that thread agreed with nay sayers..and the originator was a ucf fans super excited about it
https://csnbbs.com/thread-663915.html

and this has nothing to do with anything but
"Houston fans remember that you beat Oklahoma. Ok, so what? Most other fans don't remember that at this point. "
it was literally only 2 years ago...and they literally show non stop clips of that game because ed oliver sacked mayfield numerous times, and the sports channels always play it in their talks about why he is the best player in college football next season.

that game is also non stop talked about to counter ucf...
"ucf didnt have the schedule, and its not about being unfair to g5, houston could have done it in 2016 when they beat oklahoma and louisville" this was said literally last month on national tv by the heads of the playoff

you have odd opinions ...and you try to force your odd opinions on everyone else...
most ucf fans would take a 2 for 1 with Florida ....most fans still remember houston beating top 5 Oklahoma
if you want to bash usf do it for Louisville, your case against Florida just make you seem like blind usf hater

LOL

I love hearing a HOUSTON fan assert that they speak for UCF fans better than a UCF fan. You're an absurd character. We literally just had this debate on the UCF Rivals.com board, where 99% of UCF fans online congregate, and the opinion was overwhelmingly in favor of NEVER signing a 2-1 deal like this where the "return game" is at the Citrus Dump.

Congrats though on those Ed Oliver highlights.

I wish they would take the buy-outs out of the clauses. Either you will play USF and take the L, or you run with your tail between your legs and still take the L.