(09-16-2019 04:24 PM)WColt45 Wrote: I think both the SHC and Memphis football are great for the city. Both have plenty of room to succeed and generate revenue that is recycled into good things for the city of Memphis. I think its silly to suggest one group leaves Tiger Lane in any worse shape than the other. Its tailgating.. there are always people that leave their site a mess, drink too much, and spend half the game standing in the bathroom line... that just goes with the territory at any football game. Just accept it as part of the experience and move on. I'd much rather be complaining about the "mess" with a winning football team rather than go back to 1-10 seasons where there are less than 500 of us in a parking lot tailgating before games.
Don't sweat the small stuff, just enjoy the gameday experience.
I think that's fine. Many of us have just asked for better accountability on the place. With season tix holders, you have that because you're coming back in a couple of weeks. Past years, the SHC did not have that because it was a year before you'd be back.
It's sort of like the difference in renting and owning. But if the parking lot paint has been stopped, and the garbage is better controlled. Then it's win-win!
(09-16-2019 08:37 AM)fsquid Wrote: How did Tiger Lane make out?
that's the largest crowd so far this season
Largest reported number. They use tickets distributed (including student, families, band, other freebies, and no-shows). For some reason, we use tickets scanned. We probably had more in the stadium for Old Miss - we know there were 45k minimum in attendance - with about 40k being actual Tigers fans.
They brought 20kish each, I suppose. For their "super bowl". Had Old Miss brought 20k, we would be SRO.
So it's a bit of a fail there.
umm, not really Boss
but nice effort,,,,,#'s don't lie
If you think the SHC outdrew Memphis V Ole Miss in 2019 then watch this and get back to us:
Yeah, I now take back my assumption that they each brought 20k-ish fans. 30k total there?
(09-16-2019 04:24 PM)WColt45 Wrote: I think both the SHC and Memphis football are great for the city. Both have plenty of room to succeed and generate revenue that is recycled into good things for the city of Memphis. I think its silly to suggest one group leaves Tiger Lane in any worse shape than the other. Its tailgating.. there are always people that leave their site a mess, drink too much, and spend half the game standing in the bathroom line... that just goes with the territory at any football game. Just accept it as part of the experience and move on. I'd much rather be complaining about the "mess" with a winning football team rather than go back to 1-10 seasons where there are less than 500 of us in a parking lot tailgating before games.
Don't sweat the small stuff, just enjoy the gameday experience.
I think that's fine. Many of us have just asked for better accountability on the place. With season tix holders, you have that because you're coming back in a couple of weeks. Past years, the SHC did not have that because it was a year before you'd be back.
It's sort of like the difference in renting and owning. But if the parking lot paint has been stopped, and the garbage is better controlled. Then it's win-win!
The entire area is much better marked and organized than ever before. There isn't the need to do what they used to do. Garbage may be something of a matter of better facilities and something of a matter of a smaller crowd.
The news outlets have never challenged Fred Jones’ inflated attendance numbers, even when they were wearing the UofM out about their’s. The SHC does not draw like it used to do.
(09-16-2019 04:45 PM)k2tigers Wrote: Again, I never said either crowd was BAD,,,,,I commented that the Ole Miss crowd looked great if you read the game post
Why can't folks here acknowledge there is an issue when a non-Tiger game in one of the most anticipated seasons ever outdraws what could realistically be the zenith of attendance on August 31, 2019
Uhhh... Because it didn't. That video proves it. HBCUs are almost as much about the halftime shows as they are the football games. And rightfully so. They are awesome. But Ned is right. The top half of the stadium is way more empty than the bottom half, which indicates that the Ole Miss crowd (which was 90% tigers fans) was bigger as far as butts in seats. IOW, attended.
(05-22-2018 03:08 PM)Latilleon Wrote: I looked at it before I posted. None of the examples seemed to involve a non-Power 5 playing in a city owned stadium.
BTW, it seems like you think we can get a deal like we got for FedEx Park. That’s not likely until a new football stadium is built. As long as the Liberty Bowl is city owned, can’t see a deal working out for naming rights.
The city of Orlando sold the naming rights to their stadium formerly known as the Citrus Bowl.
Just saying.
So when the Liberty Bowl game sells the naming rights and denies the University and the City any of the revenue, how is that going to go over?
The LB bowl game doesn’t have the right to sell the naming rights. Maybe the city of Memphis will trade them that right in exchange for paying $20 Million for stadium upgrades...like the city of Orlando did.
Let me just point out, you brought up Orlando as if it were a template.
I don’t think the Liberty Bowl can get a naming rights deal that would average a million a year for economic reasons. The reason it would, sponsorship of U of Memphis, is unlikely because the city (and the Liberty Bowl game) probably would not be alright with UM getting all the proceeds of a naming rights deal.
Naming rights are unlikely for the Liberty Bowl unless the AAFL became super popular for what it is, and the city finds a local company that just has money to burn on something. But it still probably wouldn’t average a million.
Would the City be willing to change the name of the stadium for a deal closer to $250,000 a year? I personally hope not.
According to Calkins on the radio this morning, Simmons Bank doubled the next highest bid for the naming rights. They'll probably make a public announcement of the financial terms at some point.
$ 700,000 per year 10 years - is what was talked about this weekend in Tulsa from the people who should have insight.
Forget that it is a 10 year deal - that only "makes" it look like a larger deal (even if the deal is larger or smaller per year) - total deal worth.
In ten years $ 700,000 or whatever the annual payout is will seem - low.
$700k is very disappointing. Not surprising, given the dull wit of the people in charge of negotiating the deal. But disappointing. Especially since someone who should have known better mentioned $4M.
I really thought we could do at least as well as Birmingham @ $1M.
(10-12-2021 08:30 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: $700k is very disappointing. Not surprising, given the dull wit of the people in charge of negotiating the deal. But disappointing. Especially since someone who should have known better mentioned $4M.
I really thought we could do at least as well as Birmingham @ $1M.
Anyone who suggested $4 million a year is just a stupid person, the reason Birmingham stadium naming rights may be worth more than the Liberty Bowls stadium naming rights is that it is a new stadium that has never had another name - Simmons is paying for renaming rights ( And the Birmingham stadium is a new stadium that will probably be utilized a lot more than the Liberty Bowl Stadium will for the next 10 years.
(10-12-2021 08:30 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: $700k is very disappointing. Not surprising, given the dull wit of the people in charge of negotiating the deal. But disappointing. Especially since someone who should have known better mentioned $4M.
I really thought we could do at least as well as Birmingham @ $1M.
I thought $1M annually was a good goal to start with, but $700K annually is a whole lot more than some folks were predicting.
I believe Spectra Venue Management negotiated both this deal and the convention center deal. Renasant is paying $680K annually for the convention center.
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(10-12-2021 08:30 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: $700k is very disappointing. Not surprising, given the dull wit of the people in charge of negotiating the deal. But disappointing. Especially since someone who should have known better mentioned $4M.
I really thought we could do at least as well as Birmingham @ $1M.
Might have helped Birningham with $1,000,000 per year naming rights :
(10-12-2021 08:30 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: $700k is very disappointing. Not surprising, given the dull wit of the people in charge of negotiating the deal. But disappointing. Especially since someone who should have known better mentioned $4M.
I really thought we could do at least as well as Birmingham @ $1M.
Might have helped Birningham with $1,000,000 per year naming rights :
(09-16-2019 04:24 PM)WColt45 Wrote: I think both the SHC and Memphis football are great for the city. Both have plenty of room to succeed and generate revenue that is recycled into good things for the city of Memphis. I think its silly to suggest one group leaves Tiger Lane in any worse shape than the other. Its tailgating.. there are always people that leave their site a mess, drink too much, and spend half the game standing in the bathroom line... that just goes with the territory at any football game. Just accept it as part of the experience and move on. I'd much rather be complaining about the "mess" with a winning football team rather than go back to 1-10 seasons where there are less than 500 of us in a parking lot tailgating before games.
Don't sweat the small stuff, just enjoy the gameday experience.
I think that's fine. Many of us have just asked for better accountability on the place. With season tix holders, you have that because you're coming back in a couple of weeks. Past years, the SHC did not have that because it was a year before you'd be back.
It's sort of like the difference in renting and owning. But if the parking lot paint has been stopped, and the garbage is better controlled. Then it's win-win!
Now if we can get Fred Jones to use the pre-painted slot numbers instead of painting his own numbers.
Things have gotten a little better.
At least no one is trying to dig a pit in the ground as they did the first year.
(10-11-2021 06:17 PM)griffin Wrote: $ 700,000 per year 10 years - is what was talked about this weekend in Tulsa from the people who should have insight.
Forget that it is a 10 year deal - that only "makes" it look like a larger deal (even if the deal is larger or smaller per year) - total deal worth.
In ten years $ 700,000 or whatever the annual payout is will seem - low.
May not be the best deal but it does cover most of the operating losses at SLBS
(10-12-2021 08:30 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: $700k is very disappointing. Not surprising, given the dull wit of the people in charge of negotiating the deal. But disappointing. Especially since someone who should have known better mentioned $4M.
I really thought we could do at least as well as Birmingham @ $1M.
Anyone who suggested $4 million a year is just a stupid person, the reason Birmingham stadium naming rights may be worth more than the Liberty Bowls stadium naming rights is that it is a new stadium that has never had another name - Simmons is paying for renaming rights ( And the Birmingham stadium is a new stadium that will probably be utilized a lot more than the Liberty Bowl Stadium will for the next 10 years.
They have a USFL team as well. Curiously the USFL bypassed Memphis, another charter member.