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RE: Stadium Renovation and Construction Thread
(Today 11:27 AM)panama Wrote:  
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(Yesterday 02:43 PM)AztecEmpire Wrote:  The entire site will become part of the SDSU campus, connected to the main campus by trolly that is two stops away. This is a transformational project for the school and the region.

OK, sounds like it's not really "on campus", right? It's a short distance from the actual campus with trolley shuttle connection. Like Georgia State's stadium, the renovated Turner Field, that is owned by the university but is separate from the campus by a mile or so.

I think if USF did an OCS it would be either on the existing campus or else adjacent to it, so that there is no intervening separation. But of course that's a fantasy for us, while your quasi-campus stadium is fast becoming a reality. Kudos.
Campus is being built at the stadium. So ON campus. We did the same.

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Eh, that's not "on campus" the way I think about. "On campus" are stadiums like LSU and Ohio State, where you are walking around the grounds of the actual historical campus, where all the classroom building and dorms etc. are and right there in the mix of that is, well, the stadium. To be truly OCS, the stadium has to be in that mix or immediately adjacent to it, so that there's no intervening space.

Stadiums that are built away from the actual campus, but with plans to build other university facilities around it are quasi OCS. They are kind of extensions or satellites from the campus.

For example, if USF were to tear down its existing track and soccer stadium and build a football stadium there, that would be "in the mix" as the soccer stadium is in the area of the main campus. If we built it on the MOSI grounds, which are across the street from the main campus that would qualify too as it is adjacent to the campus so would be a natural extension of it. But if we bought the dying University Mall property, which is about a half-mile from our campus, and built a stadium there, with plans to build other facilities around it, such that students would be taking shuttles or something to the games, that would be a "quasi" situation. Not truly on campus, IMO. It wouldn't be on the current campus, rather we would be building a new campus, in effect.
Even our Downtown campus is really 3 campuses in the same area. Same for Georgia Tech. In fact GT plays basketball 10 blocks from where they play football. Their practice facility is a mile from the stadium. Yet it's all in campus. I think SDSU's plan with forms / student apartments by the stadium and classrooms etc qualifies as on campus unless you mean that you have to be next to the registrars office.

No, not necessarily next to the Registrar's Office, but within the area of the main campus. That in my view is an OCS. Georgia State and, apparently, SDST's new stadium, is a quasi-OCS. Not a true one. It's owned by the university, but on land separated from the main campus.

The whole idea of an "OCS" is that it doesn't require modes of transport to access by the university community. If you're on the main campus it's a short stroll to the stadium. If you're taking buses or shuttles or cars to get there, or need a 20 minute walk through the city, it's not OCS.

Tulane and UCF have true OCS.
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RE: Stadium Renovation and Construction Thread
(Today 12:41 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(Today 11:27 AM)panama Wrote:  
(Today 09:18 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(Yesterday 10:30 PM)panama Wrote:  
(Yesterday 07:28 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  OK, sounds like it's not really "on campus", right? It's a short distance from the actual campus with trolley shuttle connection. Like Georgia State's stadium, the renovated Turner Field, that is owned by the university but is separate from the campus by a mile or so.

I think if USF did an OCS it would be either on the existing campus or else adjacent to it, so that there is no intervening separation. But of course that's a fantasy for us, while your quasi-campus stadium is fast becoming a reality. Kudos.
Campus is being built at the stadium. So ON campus. We did the same.

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Eh, that's not "on campus" the way I think about. "On campus" are stadiums like LSU and Ohio State, where you are walking around the grounds of the actual historical campus, where all the classroom building and dorms etc. are and right there in the mix of that is, well, the stadium. To be truly OCS, the stadium has to be in that mix or immediately adjacent to it, so that there's no intervening space.

Stadiums that are built away from the actual campus, but with plans to build other university facilities around it are quasi OCS. They are kind of extensions or satellites from the campus.

For example, if USF were to tear down its existing track and soccer stadium and build a football stadium there, that would be "in the mix" as the soccer stadium is in the area of the main campus. If we built it on the MOSI grounds, which are across the street from the main campus that would qualify too as it is adjacent to the campus so would be a natural extension of it. But if we bought the dying University Mall property, which is about a half-mile from our campus, and built a stadium there, with plans to build other facilities around it, such that students would be taking shuttles or something to the games, that would be a "quasi" situation. Not truly on campus, IMO. It wouldn't be on the current campus, rather we would be building a new campus, in effect.
Even our Downtown campus is really 3 campuses in the same area. Same for Georgia Tech. In fact GT plays basketball 10 blocks from where they play football. Their practice facility is a mile from the stadium. Yet it's all in campus. I think SDSU's plan with forms / student apartments by the stadium and classrooms etc qualifies as on campus unless you mean that you have to be next to the registrars office.

No, not necessarily next to the Registrar's Office, but within the area of the main campus. That in my view is an OCS. Georgia State and, apparently, SDST's new stadium, is a quasi-OCS. Not a true one. It's owned by the university, but on land separated from the main campus.

The whole idea of an "OCS" is that it doesn't require modes of transport to access by the university community. If you're on the main campus it's a short stroll to the stadium. If you're taking buses or shuttles or cars to get there, or need a 20 minute walk through the city, it's not OCS.

Tulane and UCF have true OCS.
By your definition a good number of the traditional blue blood P5 do not have an OCS I guess. I know in our case there are student apartments across the street from the stadium. Definitely q "short stroll" .

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RE: Stadium Renovation and Construction Thread
SDSU students developed a culture around the trolley ride and going to FB games. We have one of the larger student sections in the G5. Now there will be actual classrooms next to the new stadium. Doesn't matter what others think about it, the culture is well established and will only grow when we add another 15k undergrads.
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