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Boy Scouts Lose 425,000 Boys 1 Week After Announcing Name Change
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Quote:The Scouts should have been prepared for this.

One week after the century-old Boy Scouts of America announced it was changing its name and its mission to accept girls at all levels of scouting, its single biggest participant announced Tuesday that it was cutting ties to the Scouts.

And taking one-fifth of the Scouts membership with it.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, usually known as the Mormons, announced Tuesday that it was severing its relationship with the Scouts effective Dec. 31, 2019, according to the Salt Lake Tribune.

In a statement issued jointly by the church and the Scouts, the church explained the move by noting that its membership was more global now than ever, and required a global approach.

“In this century of shared experience, the church has grown from a U.S.-centered institution to a worldwide organization, with a majority of its membership living outside the United States,” the joint statement said.

“That trend is accelerating. The church has increasingly felt the need to create and implement a uniform youth leadership and development program that serves its members globally. In so doing it will be necessary for the church to discontinue its role as a chartered partner with BSA.”

As far as minimizing the Scouts’ embarrassment, that’s not a bad spin — no policy changes are cited. It’s explained as a natural part of the church’s evolution.

But there’s no doubt that the Scouts’ increasing willingness to give in to liberal pressure on key points had a lot to do with the Mormons’ discontent.

As noted by the Deseret News — a Salt Lake City newspaper owned by a subsidiary of a holding company owned by the church — the “signs of strain of strain began to emerge years ago.”

It was five years ago that the Scouts voted to admit openly gay boys into the organization. The Mormon church said it had always allowed gays to join but the tension was building.


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Three years ago, when the Scouts decided to admit gay Scoutmasters, the church said it would stay with the Scouts after the organization recognized “the right of all religious chartered organizations to select their Scout leaders in accordance with their religious beliefs,” the Deseret News reported.

In May of last year, the church decided to drop Scouting from church programs for boys aged 14-17, according to the Deseret News. That coincided with the Scouts’ decision to accept “transgender” boys — i.e. girls pretending to be boys — into the organization.

Now, six days after the Boy Scouts of America announced an epochal change in the group’s mission — complete with changing its name by 2019 to the bloodless, corporate Scouts BSA, the church has announced an end to all ties between the organizations.

From the outside, it looked inevitable.

The Scouts have apparently decided the group’s future consists of a never-ending progression of appeasement to the forces of political correctness, a cycle that’s ultimately hollowing out an organization that used to be revered for its influence on American youths.

The Mormon Church can see where that’s going — just like any sensible person can. Its decision to end the 105-year partnership between the organizations means 425,000 boys will leave an organization of 2.3 million within the next two years.

That’s almost one out of every five, and it’s going to hurt badly. But it only came after a series of decisions made by the Scouts themselves.
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Next the Dems will scream how hate filled those 425,000 boys are.
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(05-17-2018 11:57 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Next the Dems will scream how hate filled those 425,000 boys are.

those gender racist mormons.....

it's funny what happens when you have more than one playground to take slap shots....

the dippos really don't understand how they're slowly digging their own grave......
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This is sad beyond words. The victims are the kids and they are victimized so that adults with a variety of issues can feel better about themselves. The scouts once encompassed the building of character, through truthfulness, integrity, and service to those around you. There's nothing wrong with segregating the girls and boys for these purposes. They are different especially in maturity at the ages of 7 through 18.

This is a prime example of a government run amok.
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(05-18-2018 12:59 AM)JRsec Wrote:  This is sad beyond words. The victims are the kids and they are victimized so that adults with a variety of issues can feel better about themselves. The scouts once encompassed the building of character, through truthfulness, integrity, and service to those around you. There's nothing wrong with segregating the girls and boys for these purposes. They are different especially in maturity at the ages of 7 through 18.

This is a prime example of a government run amok.

that is msm agenda driven.....

it's the damndest shite I've ever seen in my lifetime.....

it's just dadgum pathetic how various groups react when the slightest pressure is applied by a handful of dipshites.....

we've truly inherited anthropomorphic pussification......what a fk'n joke of irony....

the msm is the goddammed devil......
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(05-18-2018 01:09 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(05-18-2018 12:59 AM)JRsec Wrote:  This is sad beyond words. The victims are the kids and they are victimized so that adults with a variety of issues can feel better about themselves. The scouts once encompassed the building of character, through truthfulness, integrity, and service to those around you. There's nothing wrong with segregating the girls and boys for these purposes. They are different especially in maturity at the ages of 7 through 18.

This is a prime example of a government run amok.

that is msm agenda driven.....

it's the damndest shite I've ever seen in my lifetime.....

it's just dadgum pathetic how various groups react when the slightest pressure is applied by a handful of dipshites.....

we've truly inherited anthropomorphic pussification......what a fk'n joke of irony....

the msm is the goddammed devil......

All the kids just need to pull out. Satan is the author of confusion. This is as confused as it gets. Troop He, Troop She, Troop He She, Troop She He, And Troop ACDC, and Troop Unapparent Apparel must meet in a Jamboree. The first game of the Jamboree is the traditional guess the height of the pole. It is never guessed because they are too busy reacting to the presence of the pole.
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(05-18-2018 01:09 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(05-18-2018 12:59 AM)JRsec Wrote:  This is sad beyond words. The victims are the kids and they are victimized so that adults with a variety of issues can feel better about themselves. The scouts once encompassed the building of character, through truthfulness, integrity, and service to those around you. There's nothing wrong with segregating the girls and boys for these purposes. They are different especially in maturity at the ages of 7 through 18.

This is a prime example of a government run amok.

that is msm agenda driven.....

it's the damndest shite I've ever seen in my lifetime.....

it's just dadgum pathetic how various groups react when the slightest pressure is applied by a handful of dipshites.....

we've truly inherited anthropomorphic pussification......what a fk'n joke of irony....

the msm is the goddammed devil......

it's insanity. "oh no, we can't risk alienating less than 3% of the population because the MSM makes it appear that every single person on the planet is suffering from gender dysphoria, so, we'll go along to get along".

Somewhat similar in nature, I read some headline off of MSN yesterday - the site I was visiting wouldn't work properly with Firefox - and Jason Stathem has issued an apology for making remarks he doesn't even remember making over 5 years ago, something to the effect of "effing f*gs!!". Apparently someone was recording a conversation he was having with a producer on a movie set.

So now one of my favorite action movie stars has caved to PC pressure and has lost all appeal, at least for me.
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leftists want to destroy manhood for boys. plain and simple.
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(05-18-2018 01:19 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-18-2018 01:09 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(05-18-2018 12:59 AM)JRsec Wrote:  This is sad beyond words. The victims are the kids and they are victimized so that adults with a variety of issues can feel better about themselves. The scouts once encompassed the building of character, through truthfulness, integrity, and service to those around you. There's nothing wrong with segregating the girls and boys for these purposes. They are different especially in maturity at the ages of 7 through 18.

This is a prime example of a government run amok.

that is msm agenda driven.....

it's the damndest shite I've ever seen in my lifetime.....

it's just dadgum pathetic how various groups react when the slightest pressure is applied by a handful of dipshites.....

we've truly inherited anthropomorphic pussification......what a fk'n joke of irony....

the msm is the goddammed devil......

All the kids just need to pull out. Satan is the author of confusion. This is as confused as it gets. Troop He, Troop She, Troop He She, Troop She He, And Troop ACDC, and Troop Unapparent Apparel must meet in a Jamboree. The first game of the Jamboree is the traditional guess the height of the pole. It is never guessed because they are too busy reacting to the presence of the pole.

Ultimately its the corporate sponsors. The corporations fold at the first sign of pressure. And I think increasingly CEOs are liberal. You've got to be nuts to want to be a CEO these days with all the hours, so maybe there aren't many conservatives qualified.04-cheers
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(05-18-2018 08:03 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  leftists want to destroy manhood for boys. plain and simple.

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liberalism, everything it touches, it kills
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(05-18-2018 08:54 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  liberalism, everything it touches, it kills

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(05-18-2018 08:22 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(05-18-2018 01:19 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-18-2018 01:09 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(05-18-2018 12:59 AM)JRsec Wrote:  This is sad beyond words. The victims are the kids and they are victimized so that adults with a variety of issues can feel better about themselves. The scouts once encompassed the building of character, through truthfulness, integrity, and service to those around you. There's nothing wrong with segregating the girls and boys for these purposes. They are different especially in maturity at the ages of 7 through 18.

This is a prime example of a government run amok.

that is msm agenda driven.....

it's the damndest shite I've ever seen in my lifetime.....

it's just dadgum pathetic how various groups react when the slightest pressure is applied by a handful of dipshites.....

we've truly inherited anthropomorphic pussification......what a fk'n joke of irony....

the msm is the goddammed devil......

All the kids just need to pull out. Satan is the author of confusion. This is as confused as it gets. Troop He, Troop She, Troop He She, Troop She He, And Troop ACDC, and Troop Unapparent Apparel must meet in a Jamboree. The first game of the Jamboree is the traditional guess the height of the pole. It is never guessed because they are too busy reacting to the presence of the pole.

Ultimately its the corporate sponsors. The corporations fold at the first sign of pressure. And I think increasingly CEOs are liberal. You've got to be nuts to want to be a CEO these days with all the hours, so maybe there aren't many conservatives qualified.04-cheers

To be practical about it Bullet the CEO's and University Presidents I've known have to publicly adhere to PC. Otherwise they aren't even considered for the positions. So those who hold the positions, regardless of their personal beliefs, have sold their integrity for the promotion. This includes now many of the clergy.

My question for the board is this. Is a country where the minority is tolerated and protected by law, but one in which the minority makes policy for the majority, really a free and democratic country? Personally speaking PC destroys not only free speech,and tamps down dissent, but without question it destroys freedom and obliterates democracy.
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The article would have been more effective if it hadn't added the unnecessary (i.e.) parenthetical


I'm quite sure that whatever the Mormons do to replace scouting will be far less inclusive than even scouts were... and I don't mean that as a bad thing about Mormons... just bad for the whole 'progressive' movement. So they've made things worse (from their perspective) rather than better
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(05-18-2018 08:03 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  leftists want to destroy manhood for boys. plain and simple.

Corporations push the politics of division. The uber wealthy they represent want the electorate fighting over every possible social issue that does not affect business as usual. What they don't want are the disenfranchised middle class conservatives voting with the disenfranchised poor in order to take both Houses and shut down the favors and perks for corporations. Most in the middle class don't speak out or fight because their kids work for one of the corporations and they don't want to injure their kids by becoming conspicuously outspoken.

So pro gun anti gun, pro abortion anti abortion, pro immigration anti immigration, pro church anti church, and now more militant groups on the right and left are pushed every day to keep that divide active.

From LBJ until today there has been a pro Fed and pro corporate agenda by government which has shut out mom & pop businesses and consolidated power permitting the courts to be packed with pro corporate pro Fed people. So we've had rulings on imminent domain that favor corporations, we've had the annuitizing of retirement accounts to allow large brokerage firms and banks to hold onto your principal and merely pay you interest off of your money thereby stealing the inheritance of your children, and now they want to go after firearms because they know someday you will catch on and they don't want to suffer your ire. So the extremes of division are really a tell, along with the election of Trump which indicates that people are starting to catch on.

Since the Kennedy assassination the national debt has grown from 205 million to 20 trillion. That's not an accident. RFK wanted to kill off the Federal Reserve in '63. Ike warned of the rise of the military industrial complex as the biggest post War threat to the country. Well the FED is backed by many of the largest American arms makers and by European and domestic banks.

The corporate agenda and the FED agenda go hand in hand. Now many of the corporations are part of larger conglomerates in which are corporations that own the media & TV networks. So we don't touch campaign finance reform because the major conglomerates donate large sums to both parties, recollect that money through their media outlets when campaign ads run, and price you and me out of being heard by our representatives because we can't touch (even as a group) the finances that are given them by the corporations.

So they drive up the cost of media, drive up the cost of elections, donate the funds to the candidates who will do their bidding regardless of party, recollect the money by charging for the ads through their media networks, and price the citizens out of the elections.

Only three presidents since JFK have not been backed by these groups: Carter, Reagan, and now Trump. Two were betrayed by members of their own parties in an effort to make them look foolish and the other got shot, and was refused the RNC's endorsement unless he took either H.W. Bush or Ford on as his running mate.

Why do you think so many Republican House and Senate members have remained silent while the witch hunt went on? It would hurt their pocket books if they didn't. And in the case of McCain and Ryan they were called upon to do even more, actively disrupt or attack Trump policies.

Attacking liberals and liberals attacking conservatives just plays into their game plan and ultimately disenfranchises both. It's simply time to temporarily join forces and clean out the RNC and DNC. Then we can go back to discussing what kind of economic plan best helps us all and getting rid of the politics of division as is currently being practiced by the corporate elite who don't want boys to grow into manhood with their natural tendencies intact, who don't want us to be armed, or even have any of our other rights intact like free speech, freedom of assembly and redress, freedom from unlawful search and seizure, and on and on.

Hate speech was raised to defeat freedom of dissent and speech. Hate crimes were enacted to be able to imply a motive in order to destroy a political target. Homeland security limited the amount of cash, and valuable items you can have on your person, in your home, or in a safe deposit box. If you are forced to keep all of value in cash in a bank then they have even more power over you. The same legislation said that if you kept more than $5,000 on your person, in your home, etc. you may be considered to be a terrorist.

What we are moving toward is a society that is under total surveillance, without means of travel without funds or passport, without rights to publicly speak against those who hold power, unarmed, with your children virtually forced to work within a corporate model where their contacts are on social media and are monitored and the workplace is electronically watched. If they are let go for any reason they will have little redress and their corporate black mark will follow them.

The only way that those who desire to do this can achieve their objectives is if they can keep us at each others throats. And yet both sides of this political divide wholeheartedly believe that their safety is wrapped up in the policies and politics of one party or the other and that their real enemy is their neighbor who disagrees.

The attack on the scouts is not so much a LGBT issue as it is the intentional destruction of an organization that instills integrity and encourages group activities and identity. Whether organized by a church, by a club or organization, or by school, any organized group that works in concert to instill values and integrity is a potential threat for no other reason than it unites people in a common agenda.

The desires to clamp down on the internet is what the Trump / Russia investigation really hoped to accomplish. Yes impeaching Trump was a big bonus, but they pulled Zuckerberg in so politics would have the smoking gun threat of external hacking to provide them with the right in the public's eyes to have oversight over this generations backyard fence.

So my friends one battle at a time. The first needs to be fought against those who ultimately seek to take our rights, the corporate / financial structure. Once we tackle that peacefully through the ballot then we can go back to fighting about conservative or liberal fiscal matters and adopt some sane approaches to social differences.
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The Mormons are being very polite on their way out, but their reasoning behind leaving the Scouts doesn't pass muster when you realize that there are official Scout organizations in just about every country, and there is a single organization called the World Scout Conference that would have helped facilitate them in providing assistance wherever there was a need.
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(05-18-2018 03:52 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  The Mormons are being very polite on their way out, but their reasoning behind leaving the Scouts doesn't pass muster when you realize that there are official Scout organizations in just about every country, and there is a single organization called the World Scout Conference that would have helped facilitate them in providing assistance wherever there was a need.

Mormons tend to be polite.
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Agreed on the Mormons/polite angle. But make no mistake, this is a deep philosophical breach.
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