(05-14-2018 02:40 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Not to mention the fact the entire thing and the entire time frame was laid out VERY SPECIFICALLY in the bible 2500+ years ago.

A film where the hero wins and the bad guy gets his comeuppance. Sorry, I think I've seen it already.

(05-14-2018 04:19 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 02:40 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Not to mention the fact the entire thing and the entire time frame was laid out VERY SPECIFICALLY in the bible 2500+ years ago.

A film where the hero wins and the bad guy gets his comeuppance. Sorry, I think I've seen it already.

You're gonna see it again for REALS.

(05-14-2018 04:19 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 02:40 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Not to mention the fact the entire thing and the entire time frame was laid out VERY SPECIFICALLY in the bible 2500+ years ago.

A film where the hero wins and the bad guy gets his comeuppance. Sorry, I think I've seen it already.

There is no other religion, book or god that can offer such a powerful and unarguable witness of its divinity like this, proven through the millennia.

If there were you would have already posted it when I asked earlier.

You can't dispute any of it factually or truthfully. All you can do is scoff and troll. Sad!

(05-14-2018 04:18 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Eric, I think the building of the Temple will be before all hell breaks loose. As a matter of fact even when something as insignificant as Trump putting the embassy in Jerusalem has caused so much hate and anger can you imagine how the Islamists will feel with the Jews building THE Temple in Jerusalem again after the last one came down in 70 AD?

For those poor souls that think they're smarter than God all I can say is pobrecitos, you're in for a big surprise.

I tend to agree with you here. I think it will be before, possible even during this very administration. The bible doesn't tell us for sure though whether its before or after the antichrist arises. It would seem politically that an American POTUS will have to back them up on it, and no one but Trump will ever have the guts.

The parallels between Trump and Cyrus are very strong, not to mention the fact that Trump even became president in such a historic and stunning election. Look at the people who hate him in such epic and deranged fashion...Hollywood and the globalists.

Remember all those campaign signs that read "Trump-Pence"? "Trumpets". God's had is clearly moving here for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

(05-14-2018 04:26 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 04:19 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 02:40 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Not to mention the fact the entire thing and the entire time frame was laid out VERY SPECIFICALLY in the bible 2500+ years ago.

A film where the hero wins and the bad guy gets his comeuppance. Sorry, I think I've seen it already.

There is no other religion, book or god that can offer such a powerful and unarguable witness of its divinity like this, proven through the millennia.

If there were you would have already posted it when I asked earlier.

You can't dispute any of it factually or truthfully. All you can do is scoff and troll. Sad!

Maybe if the Washington Post was the Bible many Liberals would believe it, Or the HuffPost.

(05-14-2018 04:26 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  You can't dispute any of it factually or truthfully. All you can do is scoff and troll. Sad!

Remember friends if even one sentence of the bible is fiction, if even one verse is historically inaccurate, if even one passage if open to interpretation (and all three are impossible to argue otherwise) then maybe it's also fiction that one man to died for the transgressions of another.



I do sincerly enjoy the back and forth. I jest, and mock, but I do not hate.

(05-14-2018 04:42 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 04:26 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  You can't dispute any of it factually or truthfully. All you can do is scoff and troll. Sad!

Remember friends if even one sentence of the bible is fiction, if even one verse is historically inaccurate, if even one passage if open to interpretation (and all three are impossible to argue otherwise) then maybe it's also fiction that one man to died for the transgressions of another.



I do sincerly enjoy the back and forth. I jest, and mock, but I do not hate.

Your comments lack credibility.

You never spend even 5 minutes of your life seriously examining these passages, which is why you offer no examples, evidence or argument against them at all. You just step right over them and ignore them because MUH reasons.

You don't like the idea of being held accountable and being judged by your creator, so you refuse to even look and just tell yourself they could mean anything, as long as they don't mean what they actually say.

Its what lost people do, I know I used to be one. You can't see things you refuse to see in the first place.

Hey, Eric, as a fact I enjoy sinning more but that's not the route to take. Now, when I do, man, it stings. Even when I cuss, mostly when I'm driving, it perturbs me afterward. It's good that we have a forgiving God or I'd be toast, literally, when I died. I just smell that way now, not dead yet.

(05-14-2018 04:39 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 04:26 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 04:19 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 02:40 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Not to mention the fact the entire thing and the entire time frame was laid out VERY SPECIFICALLY in the bible 2500+ years ago.

A film where the hero wins and the bad guy gets his comeuppance. Sorry, I think I've seen it already.

There is no other religion, book or god that can offer such a powerful and unarguable witness of its divinity like this, proven through the millennia.

If there were you would have already posted it when I asked earlier.

You can't dispute any of it factually or truthfully. All you can do is scoff and troll. Sad!

Maybe if the Washington Post was the Bible many Liberals would believe it, Or the HuffPost.

lol

(05-14-2018 04:57 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  You never spend even 5 minutes of your life seriously examining these passages, which is why you offer no examples, evidence or argument against them at all. You just step right over them and ignore them because MUH reasons.

You've already pre-determined the outcome everyone should have when examining the bible.

Of course, you can accept that snakes talks, that the sun stopped, and that there was some global flood that didn't leave any evidence. Remember, if it's not possible that god created the Earth in seven days then maybe it's also not possible for one man to die for the transgressions of another. That's a doozy, eh?

Listen, I reject the views of those who say the Bible has infallible answers to today’s problems precisely because I have examined religious texts. The Bible is chock full of lies and scientific impossibilities. FACT!

(05-14-2018 05:21 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 04:57 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  You never spend even 5 minutes of your life seriously examining these passages, which is why you offer no examples, evidence or argument against them at all. You just step right over them and ignore them because MUH reasons.

You've already pre-determined the outcome everyone should have when examining the bible.

Of course, you can accept that snakes talks, that the sun stopped, and that there was some global flood that didn't leave any evidence. Remember, if it's not possible that god created the Earth in seven days then maybe it's also not possible for one man to die for the transgressions of another. That's a doozy, eh?

Listen, I reject the views of those who say the Bible has infallible answers to today’s problems precisely because I have examined religious texts. The Bible is chock full of lies and scientific impossibilities. FACT!

You either believe in a Creator, or you believe that time, space, matter and the entire universe just blinked into existence from nothingness.

Again, you lack credibility on this. If you could dispute the facts and scriptures I pointed out with fact or logic, you already would have.

You can't so you just pivot to other arguments and more trolling. NO, you have not seriously studied the overwhelming evidence in prophecy that has been proven by 2500+ years of secular history. I have discussed this with you enough times to know you just like to bluff your way through these discussions.

You are in for a big surprise my friend, I have nothing to lose in my faith and everything to gain. You gain nothing and stand to lose everything.

Just because we cant understand the Bible doesn't make it not true. I can't wrap my head around a good bit of it. But I still believe it. Its called faith.

(05-14-2018 05:56 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  Just because we cant understand the Bible doesn't make it not true. I can't wrap my head around a good bit of it. But I still believe it. Its called faith.

We can understand much of the bible, today more than ever.

The "hidden" parts of the bible are really in still future prophecies about the end times. Much of the bible can be understood, such as Moses and the history of Israel, Christ in the gospels and Pauls letters to the churches.

That is 2/3rds of the Bible. Salvation is a very easy thing to understand.

I would suggest finding Chuck Misslers "Learn the bible in 24 hours" series. You can find it on youtube. You can't understand every aspect of the mind of God, but you can learn the basic structure and chronology of the bible, and from there gain a much deeper understanding of it than you ever thought possible.

Much like anything that is deep and complex in nature, you need to first learn the basic structure and timeline before you can really dig deep into the smaller details.

As you said though, genuine, REAL faith in Christ is the most import thing. Reading the bible is supposed to water and grow that faith and give wisdom.

Proverbs 2:1-6

1 My son, if you receive my words, And treasure my commands within you,

2 So that you incline your ear to wisdom, And apply your heart to understanding;

3 Yes, if you cry out for discernment, And lift up your voice for understanding,

4 If you seek her as silver, And search for her as for hidden treasures;

5 Then you will understand the fear of the Lord, And find the knowledge of God.

6 For the Lord gives wisdom; from His mouth come knowledge and understanding;

Whoa, how did this get so religious. Does this have anything to do with the preacher that thinks all the Jewish people are going to hell.

The more science I explore the more my faith in a living God increases. We just celebrated a reckognition of 3000 yrs ago. That was based on thousands of years before that. The BEST researchers in the world only hope to find microbial life on near exoplanets in the next 100 years.
Imo we need to focus on atmospheric cleaners and ditch everything else.
I mean really, even if we stopped all emissions today, what we have farted out has already doomed us. We need some atmosphere cleaners more than holding back on Tom’s lump of coal!

(05-14-2018 06:55 PM)Dasville Wrote:  The more science I explore the more my faith in a living God increases. We just celebrated a reckognition of 3000 yrs ago. That was based on thousands of years before that. The BEST researchers in the world only hope to find microbial life on near exoplanets in the next 100 years.
Imo we need to focus on atmospheric cleaners and ditch everything else.
I mean really, even if we stopped all emissions today, what we have farted out has already doomed us. We need some atmosphere cleaners more than holding back on Tom’s lump of coal!

No doubt here.

(05-14-2018 07:01 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 06:55 PM)Dasville Wrote:  The more science I explore the more my faith in a living God increases. We just celebrated a reckognition of 3000 yrs ago. That was based on thousands of years before that. The BEST researchers in the world only hope to find microbial life on near exoplanets in the next 100 years.
Imo we need to focus on atmospheric cleaners and ditch everything else.
I mean really, even if we stopped all emissions today, what we have farted out has already doomed us. We need some atmosphere cleaners more than holding back on Tom’s lump of coal!

No doubt here.

Even science points to a living God.
If we are truly 98% microbial....and I believe that is so, the divine 2% is God’s doing. The advancement of the brain may very well separate us from apes, but after that, it must be God because there is no other biological explanation. God is truly at the end of the road imo. I still like arguing the route.

Not sure how strong an ally Turkey really is. Maybe a NATO exit in the making.

Turkey recalls US Envoy