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(05-11-2018 08:20 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  Build it. Then we'll see.

Someone told me it's 5-7 years away when I was there a couple of weeks ago.

Sounds about right. Football construction began in 2017, the construction for basketball arena will start late 2018/early 2019, then baseball construction will commence aound 2021
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(05-10-2018 08:06 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  You forgot to include that GAST's new baseball facility will be built in the old footprint of Fulton County Stadium where the Braves won the World Series. Once, they get that ballpark built, I think it'll take GAST from worst to first as far as baseball facilities go.


Yeah still a way away from what we hear. Convocation Center has leapfrogged it in priority order,


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(05-10-2018 09:46 AM)SENOREIDA Wrote:  
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(05-10-2018 08:06 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  You forgot to include that GAST's new baseball facility will be built in the old footprint of Fulton County Stadium where the Braves won the World Series. Once, they get that ballpark built, I think it'll take GAST from worst to first as far as baseball facilities go.

First? What, are they building something like what LSU has?

No nothing like LSU. There's no way we devote so much resources toward baseball after building up GSU Stadium ($300mil~ estimated) and the new bball arena ($80mil~ estimated). The new baseball field will be small, practical, and accessible. Looks pretty though, good enough for me. Wouldn't mind watching baseball while laying on that grass
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Would be in the top 5 IMO
I agree with this, it may be nice, but it is nothing close to what Louisiana and Coastal have. I would go as far as Top 3, but no higher than 3.


That’s fine. It’s baseball. IPF is higher priority


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(05-10-2018 10:08 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I still think having a stadium in the footprint of an MLB stadium of a World Series team is pretty effing cool. That's something unique to GAST that Coastal and ULL will never have. I'm comfortable enough in my own fandom and GS's facilities that I can admit that without putting it down. Just saying.


That and the Hank Aaron statue moving over there. Win


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For any future success in the city of Atlanta, they need to seriously come to the realization about expansion of metro rail throughout the city and neighboring counties. Take a quick visit to Denver and they will realize for the future success of that city is investment in the expansion of metro rail.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8387/84839...1c03_o.png

Atlanta is fortunate to not have neighboring oceans, major rivers or reservoirs that hurt expansion of metro rail lines. Without metro rail, they will ultimately become gridlock
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(05-16-2018 07:02 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  For any future success in the city of Atlanta, they need to seriously come to the realization about expansion of metro rail throughout the city and neighboring counties. Take a quick visit to Denver and they will realize for the future success of that city is investment in the expansion of metro rail.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8387/84839...1c03_o.png

Atlanta is fortunate to not have neighboring oceans, major rivers or reservoirs that hurt expansion of metro rail lines. Without metro rail, they will ultimately become gridlock

Most metro counties oppose rail coming in. Or even busses:
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(05-16-2018 07:14 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  
(05-16-2018 07:02 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  For any future success in the city of Atlanta, they need to seriously come to the realization about expansion of metro rail throughout the city and neighboring counties. Take a quick visit to Denver and they will realize for the future success of that city is investment in the expansion of metro rail.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8387/84839...1c03_o.png

Atlanta is fortunate to not have neighboring oceans, major rivers or reservoirs that hurt expansion of metro rail lines. Without metro rail, they will ultimately become gridlock

Most metro counties oppose rail coming in. Or even busses:

Unfortunately neighbors oppose the rail whizzing by their home every 15 - 30 minutes. There still is an abundance of undeveloped land on the outskirts of Atlanta that should be developed for metro rail.

New Jersey has an abundance of metro rail and bus going to NYC

http://www.njtransit.com/images/station_selector.jpg

The towns where the rail lines exist home values increase 20-30%. In NJ we don't have any undeveloped land that is not already environmentally protected. What you see is what you'll get unless they try to converge Industrial Rail into Metro Rail. Many of the desirable locations outside of Atlanta will be the same in the near future as their traffic is every bit the same or worse than NJ now.

Atlanta possibilities are endless as long as they figure the congestion from their commuters. Unfortunately with Atlanta, there is also that stigma of not using Rail or Bus because most residents are resilient to using it (out of the norm compared to your northeast and rustbelt cities who's residents have grown up with that type of commuting). Denver is experiencing growing pains with their metro rail now.
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Funny you guys mention metro rail. Read this other day that MARTA expansion plan is finalizing. Light rail will connect downtown to Atlanta Beltline, Ponce City market, Emory, and CDC. The project cost is $2.5 billion (using that special local sales tax from 2016) with matching funds from the federal government.

https://www.myajc.com/blog/commuting/mar...TZEYqNP6H/
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(05-16-2018 07:32 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  
(05-16-2018 07:14 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  
(05-16-2018 07:02 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  For any future success in the city of Atlanta, they need to seriously come to the realization about expansion of metro rail throughout the city and neighboring counties. Take a quick visit to Denver and they will realize for the future success of that city is investment in the expansion of metro rail.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8387/84839...1c03_o.png

Atlanta is fortunate to not have neighboring oceans, major rivers or reservoirs that hurt expansion of metro rail lines. Without metro rail, they will ultimately become gridlock

Most metro counties oppose rail coming in. Or even busses:

Unfortunately neighbors oppose the rail whizzing by their home every 15 - 30 minutes. There still is an abundance of undeveloped land on the outskirts of Atlanta that should be developed for metro rail.

New Jersey has an abundance of metro rail and bus going to NYC

http://www.njtransit.com/images/station_selector.jpg

The towns where the rail lines exist home values increase 20-30%. In NJ we don't have any undeveloped land that is not already environmentally protected. What you see is what you'll get unless they try to converge Industrial Rail into Metro Rail. Many of the desirable locations outside of Atlanta will be the same in the near future as their traffic is every bit the same or worse than NJ now.

Atlanta possibilities are endless as long as they figure the congestion from their commuters. Unfortunately with Atlanta, there is also that stigma of not using Rail or Bus because most residents are resilient to using it (out of the norm compared to your northeast and rustbelt cities who's residents have grown up with that type of commuting). Denver is experiencing growing pains with their metro rail now.

I can tell you from experience, I can drive in and out of NYC faster and easier then I can drive in and out if downtown ATL. Traffic in ATL is terrible, and MARTA is under serving the ATL area. I've riden many buses and trains in the NYC area, and they work great for commuting, I've riden MARTA in ATL and I've seen the trains running, empty. I thought when MARTA blew up that bridge on I85 it would have helped increase their numbers, but I'm not sure they sustained it after the bridge reopened.

MARTA needs to run out to SunTrust, I'm shocked with all the traffic in I75 that it wasn't built before last season.
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(05-16-2018 07:14 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Most metro counties oppose rail coming in. Or even busses:

Most Cobb County residents like my parents irrationally hate MARTA and their reasons are insane. Folks from Fulton, DeKalb, Gwinnett welcome MARTA expansions.

Personally, I loved riding the subway when living in Lindbergh my junior/senior year. It allowed me to take naps on the train
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(05-16-2018 07:02 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  For any future success in the city of Atlanta, they need to seriously come to the realization about expansion of metro rail throughout the city and neighboring counties. Take a quick visit to Denver and they will realize for the future success of that city is investment in the expansion of metro rail.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8387/84839...1c03_o.png

Atlanta is fortunate to not have neighboring oceans, major rivers or reservoirs that hurt expansion of metro rail lines. Without metro rail, they will ultimately become gridlock
Ultimately!?!! We passed ultimately in 1998.

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(05-16-2018 07:14 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  
(05-16-2018 07:02 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  For any future success in the city of Atlanta, they need to seriously come to the realization about expansion of metro rail throughout the city and neighboring counties. Take a quick visit to Denver and they will realize for the future success of that city is investment in the expansion of metro rail.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8387/84839...1c03_o.png

Atlanta is fortunate to not have neighboring oceans, major rivers or reservoirs that hurt expansion of metro rail lines. Without metro rail, they will ultimately become gridlock

Most metro counties oppose rail coming in. Or even busses:
Its changing. Gwinnett is now on board and Cumberland area is trying to get it done without surrounding Cobb County's approval.

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(05-16-2018 07:32 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  
(05-16-2018 07:14 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  
(05-16-2018 07:02 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  For any future success in the city of Atlanta, they need to seriously come to the realization about expansion of metro rail throughout the city and neighboring counties. Take a quick visit to Denver and they will realize for the future success of that city is investment in the expansion of metro rail.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8387/84839...1c03_o.png

Atlanta is fortunate to not have neighboring oceans, major rivers or reservoirs that hurt expansion of metro rail lines. Without metro rail, they will ultimately become gridlock

Most metro counties oppose rail coming in. Or even busses:

Unfortunately neighbors oppose the rail whizzing by their home every 15 - 30 minutes. There still is an abundance of undeveloped land on the outskirts of Atlanta that should be developed for metro rail.

New Jersey has an abundance of metro rail and bus going to NYC

http://www.njtransit.com/images/station_selector.jpg

The towns where the rail lines exist home values increase 20-30%. In NJ we don't have any undeveloped land that is not already environmentally protected. What you see is what you'll get unless they try to converge Industrial Rail into Metro Rail. Many of the desirable locations outside of Atlanta will be the same in the near future as their traffic is every bit the same or worse than NJ now.

Atlanta possibilities are endless as long as they figure the congestion from their commuters. Unfortunately with Atlanta, there is also that stigma of not using Rail or Bus because most residents are resilient to using it (out of the norm compared to your northeast and rustbelt cities who's residents have grown up with that type of commuting). Denver is experiencing growing pains with their metro rail now.

I can tell you from experience, I can drive in and out of NYC faster and easier then I can drive in and out if downtown ATL. Traffic in ATL is terrible, and MARTA is under serving the ATL area. I've riden many buses and trains in the NYC area, and they work great for commuting, I've riden MARTA in ATL and I've seen the trains running, empty. I thought when MARTA blew up that bridge on I85 it would have helped increase their numbers, but I'm not sure they sustained it after the bridge reopened.

MARTA needs to run out to SunTrust, I'm shocked with all the traffic in I75 that it wasn't built before last season.
There are historical political reasons why none of this has happened.

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So... the average home in the neighborhoods surrounding the stadium now probably sell for ~ $300k. The retail and restaurants are still to follow, but the area is definitely not the same as it was 10, 15 years ago.
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(05-16-2018 07:02 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  For any future success in the city of Atlanta, they need to seriously come to the realization about expansion of metro rail throughout the city and neighboring counties. Take a quick visit to Denver and they will realize for the future success of that city is investment in the expansion of metro rail.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8387/84839...1c03_o.png

Atlanta is fortunate to not have neighboring oceans, major rivers or reservoirs that hurt expansion of metro rail lines. Without metro rail, they will ultimately become gridlock

Portland, Oregon has something similar in the TriMet system. It links Portland with its surrounding suburbs. Pretty cool actually!! IMO, Birmingham, AL needs metro rail also. That city suffers from a bad case of urban sprawl!!!
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(05-18-2018 01:35 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(05-16-2018 07:02 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  For any future success in the city of Atlanta, they need to seriously come to the realization about expansion of metro rail throughout the city and neighboring counties. Take a quick visit to Denver and they will realize for the future success of that city is investment in the expansion of metro rail.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8387/84839...1c03_o.png

Atlanta is fortunate to not have neighboring oceans, major rivers or reservoirs that hurt expansion of metro rail lines. Without metro rail, they will ultimately become gridlock

Portland, Oregon has something similar in the TriMet system. It links Portland with its surrounding suburbs. Pretty cool actually!! IMO, Birmingham, AL needs metro rail also. That city suffers from a bad case of urban sprawl!!!

Haven't been to Portland recently. I'll have to search TriMet System. Birmingham hasn't seen the population increase, but the suburbs have grown drastically.
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There was talk a few years ago about light rail in Birmingham for the World Games that will be here in 2020, but that hasn't been talked about since then. I would hope that if they ever build the new stadium by the BJCC that they would put light rail in from UAb to the stadium. Would also help move people around the city on every other day too.

I would also like to see pax service from ATL to BHM, just put it right down the I20 corridor.
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(05-10-2018 11:09 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 10:43 AM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 10:08 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  I still think having a stadium in the footprint of an MLB stadium of a World Series team is pretty effing cool. That's something unique to GAST that Coastal and ULL will never have. I'm comfortable enough in my own fandom and GS's facilities that I can admit that without putting it down. Just saying.

I think its a great idea for GAST to use an existing structure however the area around the stadium is super sketchy

$300mil is for the surrounding area too. Private companies are also buying up properties in the neighborhood to open luxury apartments, grocery chains, retail stores, bars, restaurants, etc. Surface Streetcars will have new stations there for convenience. It will be a nice area and I'd love to move there once it's all done.
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new dorms by the GSU Stadium is happening….telling you guys this area will be totally different in 5 years...South Campus will be filled with GSU student foot traffic because I know for a fact that GSU dorms are in very high demands and the wait list goes on forever
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