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If he wants to go to the NFL, I really do think Cincinnati is his best bet. Luke Fickell brought a lot of Urban's offensive philosophy to UC, and if he's even remotely close to being an NFL prospect, he is all but guaranteed to be a 2-year starter here. If he goes to LSU, first he has to learn a whole new offense with coaches he's not familiar with. Then he has to beat out multiple QB's who are competing for the starting job (I believe they have 3 on the roster being considered). Then if he does win the starting job, he has to get up to speed playing against the best defenses in the country week in and week out. As mentioned previously, the AAC is not a cakewalk, but he's got a much better chance to be successful right away here. If he was a traditional transfer with a year to sit out and learn the playbook, it would be a different story, but as a grad transfer I truly believe we are his best path to the NFL.
 
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(05-14-2018 01:00 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  If he wants to go to the NFL, I really do think Cincinnati is his best bet. Luke Fickell brought a lot of Urban's offensive philosophy to UC, and if he's even remotely close to being an NFL prospect, he is all but guaranteed to be a 2-year starter here. If he goes to LSU, first he has to learn a whole new offense with coaches he's not familiar with. Then he has to beat out multiple QB's who are competing for the starting job (I believe they have 3 on the roster being considered). Then if he does win the starting job, he has to get up to speed playing against the best defenses in the country week in and week out. As mentioned previously, the AAC is not a cakewalk, but he's got a much better chance to be successful right away here. If he was a traditional transfer with a year to sit out and learn the playbook, it would be a different story, but as a grad transfer I truly believe we are his best path to the NFL.

Idk that one could say that CLF has brought along Urban's philosophy. He's got an OC who has something to say about that.

Besides, he's not a great fit for that offense anyway...hence why he's leaving. He'd do well in an offense like ours. Some running is involved, but it's not as central of a component as OSU's.

He'd open up options, and opportunities for our playmakers. I suspect that we'd all soon be talking about how many more playmakers we have than we realized.




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(05-14-2018 01:44 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  
(05-14-2018 01:00 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  If he wants to go to the NFL, I really do think Cincinnati is his best bet. Luke Fickell brought a lot of Urban's offensive philosophy to UC, and if he's even remotely close to being an NFL prospect, he is all but guaranteed to be a 2-year starter here. If he goes to LSU, first he has to learn a whole new offense with coaches he's not familiar with. Then he has to beat out multiple QB's who are competing for the starting job (I believe they have 3 on the roster being considered). Then if he does win the starting job, he has to get up to speed playing against the best defenses in the country week in and week out. As mentioned previously, the AAC is not a cakewalk, but he's got a much better chance to be successful right away here. If he was a traditional transfer with a year to sit out and learn the playbook, it would be a different story, but as a grad transfer I truly believe we are his best path to the NFL.

Idk that one could say that CLF has brought along Urban's philosophy. He's got an OC who has something to say about that.

Besides, he's not a great fit for that offense anyway...hence why he's leaving. He'd do well in an offense like ours. Some running is involved, but it's not as central of a component as OSU's.

He'd open up options, and opportunities for our playmakers. I suspect that we'd all soon be talking about how many more playmakers we have than we realized.




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My biggest concerns is the OL hasn't changed much.
 
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(05-14-2018 02:11 PM)bearcatdp Wrote:  
(05-14-2018 01:44 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  
(05-14-2018 01:00 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  If he wants to go to the NFL, I really do think Cincinnati is his best bet. Luke Fickell brought a lot of Urban's offensive philosophy to UC, and if he's even remotely close to being an NFL prospect, he is all but guaranteed to be a 2-year starter here. If he goes to LSU, first he has to learn a whole new offense with coaches he's not familiar with. Then he has to beat out multiple QB's who are competing for the starting job (I believe they have 3 on the roster being considered). Then if he does win the starting job, he has to get up to speed playing against the best defenses in the country week in and week out. As mentioned previously, the AAC is not a cakewalk, but he's got a much better chance to be successful right away here. If he was a traditional transfer with a year to sit out and learn the playbook, it would be a different story, but as a grad transfer I truly believe we are his best path to the NFL.

Idk that one could say that CLF has brought along Urban's philosophy. He's got an OC who has something to say about that.

Besides, he's not a great fit for that offense anyway...hence why he's leaving. He'd do well in an offense like ours. Some running is involved, but it's not as central of a component as OSU's.

He'd open up options, and opportunities for our playmakers. I suspect that we'd all soon be talking about how many more playmakers we have than we realized.




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My biggest concerns is the OL hasn't changed much.

A QB who can make quick reads and not get flustered in the pocket could help the O-line. I feel like it has been pointed out here that the O-Line was not that bad in pass protection.
 
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(05-14-2018 02:11 PM)bearcatdp Wrote:  
(05-14-2018 01:44 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  
(05-14-2018 01:00 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  If he wants to go to the NFL, I really do think Cincinnati is his best bet. Luke Fickell brought a lot of Urban's offensive philosophy to UC, and if he's even remotely close to being an NFL prospect, he is all but guaranteed to be a 2-year starter here. If he goes to LSU, first he has to learn a whole new offense with coaches he's not familiar with. Then he has to beat out multiple QB's who are competing for the starting job (I believe they have 3 on the roster being considered). Then if he does win the starting job, he has to get up to speed playing against the best defenses in the country week in and week out. As mentioned previously, the AAC is not a cakewalk, but he's got a much better chance to be successful right away here. If he was a traditional transfer with a year to sit out and learn the playbook, it would be a different story, but as a grad transfer I truly believe we are his best path to the NFL.

Idk that one could say that CLF has brought along Urban's philosophy. He's got an OC who has something to say about that.

Besides, he's not a great fit for that offense anyway...hence why he's leaving. He'd do well in an offense like ours. Some running is involved, but it's not as central of a component as OSU's.

He'd open up options, and opportunities for our playmakers. I suspect that we'd all soon be talking about how many more playmakers we have than we realized.




mc

My biggest concerns is the OL hasn't changed much.

UC will have 3-4 new starters on the OL this year, including both tackles and the center. I'd call that a fair amount of change.
 
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(05-14-2018 04:18 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  
(05-14-2018 02:11 PM)bearcatdp Wrote:  
(05-14-2018 01:44 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  
(05-14-2018 01:00 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  If he wants to go to the NFL, I really do think Cincinnati is his best bet. Luke Fickell brought a lot of Urban's offensive philosophy to UC, and if he's even remotely close to being an NFL prospect, he is all but guaranteed to be a 2-year starter here. If he goes to LSU, first he has to learn a whole new offense with coaches he's not familiar with. Then he has to beat out multiple QB's who are competing for the starting job (I believe they have 3 on the roster being considered). Then if he does win the starting job, he has to get up to speed playing against the best defenses in the country week in and week out. As mentioned previously, the AAC is not a cakewalk, but he's got a much better chance to be successful right away here. If he was a traditional transfer with a year to sit out and learn the playbook, it would be a different story, but as a grad transfer I truly believe we are his best path to the NFL.

Idk that one could say that CLF has brought along Urban's philosophy. He's got an OC who has something to say about that.

Besides, he's not a great fit for that offense anyway...hence why he's leaving. He'd do well in an offense like ours. Some running is involved, but it's not as central of a component as OSU's.

He'd open up options, and opportunities for our playmakers. I suspect that we'd all soon be talking about how many more playmakers we have than we realized.




mc

My biggest concerns is the OL hasn't changed much.

UC will have 3-4 new starters on the OL this year, including both tackles and the center. I'd call that a fair amount of change.

And they're all at least on scholarship...
 
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(05-14-2018 04:18 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  
(05-14-2018 02:11 PM)bearcatdp Wrote:  
(05-14-2018 01:44 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  
(05-14-2018 01:00 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  If he wants to go to the NFL, I really do think Cincinnati is his best bet. Luke Fickell brought a lot of Urban's offensive philosophy to UC, and if he's even remotely close to being an NFL prospect, he is all but guaranteed to be a 2-year starter here. If he goes to LSU, first he has to learn a whole new offense with coaches he's not familiar with. Then he has to beat out multiple QB's who are competing for the starting job (I believe they have 3 on the roster being considered). Then if he does win the starting job, he has to get up to speed playing against the best defenses in the country week in and week out. As mentioned previously, the AAC is not a cakewalk, but he's got a much better chance to be successful right away here. If he was a traditional transfer with a year to sit out and learn the playbook, it would be a different story, but as a grad transfer I truly believe we are his best path to the NFL.

Idk that one could say that CLF has brought along Urban's philosophy. He's got an OC who has something to say about that.

Besides, he's not a great fit for that offense anyway...hence why he's leaving. He'd do well in an offense like ours. Some running is involved, but it's not as central of a component as OSU's.

He'd open up options, and opportunities for our playmakers. I suspect that we'd all soon be talking about how many more playmakers we have than we realized.




mc

My biggest concerns is the OL hasn't changed much.

UC will have 3-4 new starters on the OL this year, including both tackles and the center. I'd call that a fair amount of change.

Weren't a lot of these new guys backing up the guys from last year? That's probably what my concern is. I'm probably one of the more Rosie glasses Bearcat fans out there. This is just a concern of mine. I'll take Joe Burrow over Hayden Moore any day. I just hope he can avoid the sack.
 
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(05-14-2018 07:46 AM)Billy Bob Bearcat Wrote:  
(05-14-2018 07:19 AM)djtothemoney Wrote:  Anyone using the 3 days in Baton Rouge as a reason they are leading, it's a moot point.

He's going to make one visit to Baton Rouge, so they might as well get the best feeling they can.

He can visit UC again, now that he's back from Louisiana, if he so chooses.

Don't bring logic onto the internets.

We should all be panicking about the 117 follower guy making a big proclamation hoping he is correct to gain credibility while picking up followers in the process.

Who's panicking? We're all trying to stay ahead of the game to know what his choice will be. I'll post other tweets too if they come up. No big deal.
 
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Just saw this from a Tigers web page:

Quote:Joe Burrow wraps up his LSU visit

Ohio State fourth-year junior quarterback Joe Burrow is transferring out of the program, and his three-day stay at LSU is now complete.

Burrow, his father, mother and brother all made an official visit to LSU this past weekend, staying Friday to Sunday in Baton Rouge. The red carpet treatment was there for the group, with the visit including everything from private tours of Tiger Stadium and the football operations building to a four-plus hour film session where the staff pitched their plans to Burrow for the upcoming season.

Almost as quickly as Burrow's decision was announced, his visit plans were released. Burrow made a one-day stay at Cincinnati on Thursday before spending three days at LSU over the weekend, where he was hosted by senior tight end Foster Moreau, one of the veterans on this year's roster.

LSU's pitch was centered around Burrow's chance to compete for the starting quarterback job this summer and into fall camp, and he would be able to play immediately this fall with two years of eligibility remaining.

One connection the Tigers were able to work is LSU safeties coach Bill Busch and his relationship with Burrow's father, Jimmy Burrow, who is currently the defensive coordinator at Ohio and is longtime friends with Busch through their coaching stops over the years. Burrow's brothers both played at Nebraska, though the Cornhuskers don't appear to be in the mix for his services at this stage.

The visit from Burrow - who left high school as a four-star quarterback with offers from schools across the country - comes at a time where the Tigers are still searching for answers at the quarterback position. Orgeron did not name a starting quarterback coming out of spring ball, meaning the race between junior Justin McMillan, sophomore Myles Brennan and redshirt freshman Lowell Narcisse is still open. Adding Burrow to the mix would certainly boost the quarterback depth chart, and likely give the Tigers an arm they could turn to as a starter this fall.

Burrow could make a decision at any point this week, and the choice would be between LSU and Cincinnati. The Bearcats are just two hours from his hometown of Athens, Ohio, where his father coaches at Ohio University. Head coach Luke Fickell is also close to Burrow after being part of Ohio State's staff during Burrow's first two years with the team.

If Burrow isn't ready to make a decision just yet, other visits could come. Sources tell the Geaux247 staff that a number of other programs have reached out to Ohio State for permission to speak with Burrow, but to this point, only LSU and Cincinnati are in the picture.

Will Joe Geaux?
 
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(05-14-2018 04:29 PM)bearcatdp Wrote:  
(05-14-2018 04:18 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  
(05-14-2018 02:11 PM)bearcatdp Wrote:  
(05-14-2018 01:44 PM)marcuscan Wrote:  
(05-14-2018 01:00 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  If he wants to go to the NFL, I really do think Cincinnati is his best bet. Luke Fickell brought a lot of Urban's offensive philosophy to UC, and if he's even remotely close to being an NFL prospect, he is all but guaranteed to be a 2-year starter here. If he goes to LSU, first he has to learn a whole new offense with coaches he's not familiar with. Then he has to beat out multiple QB's who are competing for the starting job (I believe they have 3 on the roster being considered). Then if he does win the starting job, he has to get up to speed playing against the best defenses in the country week in and week out. As mentioned previously, the AAC is not a cakewalk, but he's got a much better chance to be successful right away here. If he was a traditional transfer with a year to sit out and learn the playbook, it would be a different story, but as a grad transfer I truly believe we are his best path to the NFL.

Idk that one could say that CLF has brought along Urban's philosophy. He's got an OC who has something to say about that.

Besides, he's not a great fit for that offense anyway...hence why he's leaving. He'd do well in an offense like ours. Some running is involved, but it's not as central of a component as OSU's.

He'd open up options, and opportunities for our playmakers. I suspect that we'd all soon be talking about how many more playmakers we have than we realized.




mc

My biggest concerns is the OL hasn't changed much.

UC will have 3-4 new starters on the OL this year, including both tackles and the center. I'd call that a fair amount of change.

Weren't a lot of these new guys backing up the guys from last year? That's probably what my concern is. I'm probably one of the more Rosie glasses Bearcat fans out there. This is just a concern of mine. I'll take Joe Burrow over Hayden Moore any day. I just hope he can avoid the sack.

I don't know much about the new Tackles who will win the starting job, but one of them was backing up Cunningham who was not going to lose his starting gig unless he got hurt.

Jakari Robinson should be the new starter at Center. I think he was redshirted last season (someone correct me if I am wrong here). Even last year we heard rumblings that Robinson's ceiling was high, and from what I have seen this year is that he is one of our best players in the weight room and in practice.

A lot of people think he will be a lot like Bond. I have very high hopes that the Center will be figured out for the next 3 or 4 seasons.
 
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After spring practice, what does our starting offensive line look like? Which red-shirt OL or new player/recruit are the coaches excited about?
 
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As mentioned above Jakari Robinson is one guy they are really excited about. Didn't really hear much else about the OL.
 
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Any news on Burrow? I would think a decision would be announced shortly or news of more visits. Possible OSU is not granting permission and that is the hold up on other visits?
 
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Saw on twitter where he's supposedly visiting North Carolina now. Wondering if he didn't find what he was looking for at UC or LSU. Maybe that's just the negative side of me coming out.
 
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UC, UNC, and LSU are three very different schools.
 
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At least at UNC he won't have to worry about going to class...
 
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(05-15-2018 11:08 AM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  At least at UNC he won't have to worry about going to class...

He already has a Bachelors so that would work well. Seriously I wonder what he wants to study in Grad School?

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Your cut-and-paste skills are prodigious, doss. Now, can you please focus on stuffing an envelope that will compete with UNC's bonus?
 
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Chapel Hill is beautiful in May. Is this another leg of the family vacation, or a real contender? Hard to tell at this point.

It's hard to feel as good about his recruitment as yesterday when it was a two horse race and UC held the Ohio connection wild card. Pride or ego (his own? or parent's or friends' attitudes) may be pushing him toward a P5 destination.

And then again, we could all be celebrating in a few days or weeks if he still comes to Clifton. It just doesn't appear to be getting settled as fast as might have hoped earlier.
 
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Sounds like UC is his "safety school".
 
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