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RE: Why the Justice Department Is Defiant
(05-04-2018 10:06 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 09:53 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 09:49 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
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(05-04-2018 09:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The House has closed its investigation. Why, after the fact, are they demanding to know what the special counsel knows?

Perhaps because their oversight function is not limited to a single investigation?

perhaps Nunes is running interference for the President?

Perhaps. But wouldn't you feel more comfortable if you knew the truth? As of now, we don't.

We will, but I do not think the President, if he is, in fact, subpoenaed, is entitled to know what Mueller knows... and that's what the Nunes is trying to provide.

Appears we're talking about two different things.

I was referencing the originating document for the investigation of collusion with Russians and the FBI footdraggin in general. If the investigation was launched on faulty and unverified intelligence provided and funded by an opposing candidate's campaign, then there would a case to be made that there never should have been an investigation in the first place and we wouldn't be having this conversation today. We could be talking about the horrors of Trump taping his ties or something along those lines.
05-04-2018 10:18 AM
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RE: Why the Justice Department Is Defiant
(05-04-2018 09:49 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 09:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 09:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The House has closed its investigation. Why, after the fact, are they demanding to know what the special counsel knows?

Perhaps because their oversight function is not limited to a single investigation?

perhaps Nunes is running interference for the President?

Ding ding ding.....

We have a winner folks!!!!
05-04-2018 11:18 AM
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RE: Why the Justice Department Is Defiant
(05-04-2018 11:18 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 09:49 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 09:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 09:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The House has closed its investigation. Why, after the fact, are they demanding to know what the special counsel knows?

Perhaps because their oversight function is not limited to a single investigation?

perhaps Nunes is running interference for the President?

Ding ding ding.....

We have a winner folks!!!!

Better would be Nunes is running interference for the Constitution.
05-04-2018 11:54 AM
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RE: Why the Justice Department Is Defiant
Watching democrats defend a corrupt FBI is gold.
05-04-2018 12:35 PM
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RE: Why the Justice Department Is Defiant
(05-04-2018 10:06 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 09:53 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 09:49 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 09:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 09:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The House has closed its investigation. Why, after the fact, are they demanding to know what the special counsel knows?

Perhaps because their oversight function is not limited to a single investigation?

perhaps Nunes is running interference for the President?

Perhaps. But wouldn't you feel more comfortable if you knew the truth? As of now, we don't.

We will, but I do not think the President, if he is, in fact, subpoenaed, is entitled to know what Mueller knows... and that's what the Nunes is trying to provide.

How much you know about discovery and how it works?
05-04-2018 11:09 PM
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RE: Why the Justice Department Is Defiant
(05-04-2018 09:38 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think she left one point off. The Paul Manafort's money laundering case. The House members who are going after the documents are pro-Trump supporters who are Partisian on this issue. The issue is if the documents about Manafort go to those Trump buddies? It may not be right for justice if they give Trump those documents, and that Trump passes what Mueller have on Manafort to manafort's lawyers to fight back. If we have done half the things that Trump and them have done? We would be in a prison cell for years on end.

Why would it not be “fair” to pass this end documents on to Manafort or Trump? In Trumps case, he isn’t the chief executive of the US and isnt the justice Department still part of the executive branch of the government. In Manafort’s case, prosecutors are required to reveal all eveidence against an accused (including evidence that may be exculpatory) prior to trial. Both have every reason to see any and all documents related to the case.
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RE: Why the Justice Department Is Defiant
(05-04-2018 11:18 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 09:49 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 09:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 09:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The House has closed its investigation. Why, after the fact, are they demanding to know what the special counsel knows?

Perhaps because their oversight function is not limited to a single investigation?

perhaps Nunes is running interference for the President?

Ding ding ding.....

We have a winner folks!!!!

We do have a winner and it's not your side.
05-05-2018 09:25 AM
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RE: Why the Justice Department Is Defiant
(05-05-2018 09:14 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(05-04-2018 09:38 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think she left one point off. The Paul Manafort's money laundering case. The House members who are going after the documents are pro-Trump supporters who are Partisian on this issue. The issue is if the documents about Manafort go to those Trump buddies? It may not be right for justice if they give Trump those documents, and that Trump passes what Mueller have on Manafort to manafort's lawyers to fight back. If we have done half the things that Trump and them have done? We would be in a prison cell for years on end.

Why would it not be “fair” to pass this end documents on to Manafort or Trump? In Trumps case, he isn’t the chief executive of the US and isnt the justice Department still part of the executive branch of the government. In Manafort’s case, prosecutors are required to reveal all eveidence against an accused (including evidence that may be exculpatory) prior to trial. Both have every reason to see any and all documents related to the case.



Some of the stuff connected to Manafort have to do with the Russians being indicted. Israel was not happy that Trump gave them secret intelligence what they found. Trump is not trusted with secret info when he blurts these things out to the enemy. Israel thinks Russia and Putin is their enemy.
05-05-2018 09:30 AM
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