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RE: If Rosenstein stonewalls again, he is gone
(05-08-2018 07:32 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 12:02 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Did we elect a King in 2016? Why do Trump supporters behave like he is above the law? Of course he has to follow a subpoena.

Umm, Mueller has to obey the law, too. A complication which is seemingly becoming a bit inconvenient. As far as a subpoena, he can show up but he still doesn't have to answer any questions. And no, that is not admitting guilt. That is saying, you don't have anything, so I'm not going to help you out.

The only way I let him answer questions, if I'm his lawyer, is under the Hillary-Comey rules. Informal, off the record, unsworn, with counsel present, and with your letter of exoneration already drafted.

And no notes. Remember, when the FBI team interviewed Cankles, they did not take notes. I know it sounds unbelieveable, but remember, we're talking about the FBI here.
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(05-08-2018 07:27 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
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(05-07-2018 06:02 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  If Gowdy and Nunes's staff members have read the documents, what difference does it make whether Nunes himself read them? The staff does the detail work anyway.
Gowdy himself reportedly read the documents, so why didn't Devin? And I'm sorry, but I would prefer my elected representatives do their own legwork on matters of this much importance and not farm it out to a staffer. But that's just me I guess.

What difference does it make? And based on their histories, I would think Gowdy has much more expertise in the area than Nunes.

I totally agree I much prefer Gowdy to read it as he can likely understand it. My only point is it's pretty disingenuous IMO for Nunes to make all these ridiculous statements and stage these continual stunts and then don't even both to read the stuff he keeps ******* people won't give him.
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(05-08-2018 07:40 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 03:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I thought most special counsels would just refer their findings to congress for further action. We'll see eventually I guess. Although it would be nice for something to make it to the SCOTUS level so some precedent could be set...however, I don't think we're likely to see anything like this for quite awhile if ever again.

Be prepared to see it EVERY time a pub wins the White House. It's the new template. Pay big bucks for dirt on the new guy in town, use your plants in the State Dept, DOJ, and FBI to feed the narrative to the MSM, go after him for several years via investigations to, at a minimum, disrupt his ability to lead the country, and at a maximum, get him impeached.

that's XACLY! correct how it plays out moving forward when the dippos hold a minority position....

it's the only ammo they have.....common sense and bipartisan best method economic policy development is beyond their ability to grasp.....

they know there won't be a plantation worth owning if the slaves begin to find self worth....
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(05-08-2018 07:40 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 03:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I thought most special counsels would just refer their findings to congress for further action. We'll see eventually I guess. Although it would be nice for something to make it to the SCOTUS level so some precedent could be set...however, I don't think we're likely to see anything like this for quite awhile if ever again.

Be prepared to see it EVERY time a pub wins the White House. It's the new template. Pay big bucks for dirt on the new guy in town, use your plants in the State Dept, DOJ, and FBI to feed the narrative to the MSM, go after him for several years via investigations to, at a minimum, disrupt his ability to lead the country, and at a maximum, get him impeached.

If you honestly think this would be happening to Mitt, Cruz, Kasich, Paul, etc. you're delusional. This is happening because nearly everything trump has touched in the way of people he hired or dealt with on his campaign and the beginnings of his administration coincidentally seems to have some sort of Russian connection.
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RE: If Rosenstein stonewalls again, he is gone
(05-10-2018 12:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-08-2018 07:40 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 03:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I thought most special counsels would just refer their findings to congress for further action. We'll see eventually I guess. Although it would be nice for something to make it to the SCOTUS level so some precedent could be set...however, I don't think we're likely to see anything like this for quite awhile if ever again.
Be prepared to see it EVERY time a pub wins the White House. It's the new template. Pay big bucks for dirt on the new guy in town, use your plants in the State Dept, DOJ, and FBI to feed the narrative to the MSM, go after him for several years via investigations to, at a minimum, disrupt his ability to lead the country, and at a maximum, get him impeached.
If you honestly think this would be happening to Mitt, Cruz, Kasich, Paul, etc. you're delusional. This is happening because nearly everything trump has touched in the way of people he hired or dealt with on his campaign and the beginnings of his administration coincidentally seems to have some sort of Russian connection.

I'd like to know exactly how you work in either politics or international business for very long without having a Russian connection. You can't do it. You just can't. I have numerous Russian connections, and I haven't been a major player in either of those arenas. Small player in both, but not a major player in either. The Bushes had numerous Russian connections. Al Gore had Russian connections--I know some of them.

I honestly think it would be happening to any republican and will be for the foreseeable future. Maybe it won't be Russians, maybe it will be something else, but it will be something. This is why I say republicans need to make it about issues. They will always lose the personality battles, because the deck is stacked against them there.

Until the republicans learn to fight fire with fire, this will keep happening. Republicans have tried to stay out of the fray--and most of them have succeeded. But they're going to have to get down and dirty to put an end to this. Brass knocks time.
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(05-10-2018 01:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 12:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-08-2018 07:40 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 03:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I thought most special counsels would just refer their findings to congress for further action. We'll see eventually I guess. Although it would be nice for something to make it to the SCOTUS level so some precedent could be set...however, I don't think we're likely to see anything like this for quite awhile if ever again.
Be prepared to see it EVERY time a pub wins the White House. It's the new template. Pay big bucks for dirt on the new guy in town, use your plants in the State Dept, DOJ, and FBI to feed the narrative to the MSM, go after him for several years via investigations to, at a minimum, disrupt his ability to lead the country, and at a maximum, get him impeached.
If you honestly think this would be happening to Mitt, Cruz, Kasich, Paul, etc. you're delusional. This is happening because nearly everything trump has touched in the way of people he hired or dealt with on his campaign and the beginnings of his administration coincidentally seems to have some sort of Russian connection.

I'd like to know exactly how you work in either politics or international business for very long without having a Russian connection. You can't do it. You just can't. I have numerous Russian connections, and I haven't been a major player in either of those arenas. Small player in both, but not a major player in either. The Bushes had numerous Russian connections. Al Gore had Russian connections--I know some of them.

I honestly think it would be happening to any republican and will be for the foreseeable future. Maybe it won't be Russians, maybe it will be something else, but it will be something. This is why I say republicans need to make it about issues. They will always lose the personality battles, because the deck is stacked against them there.

Until the republicans learn to fight fire with fire, this will keep happening. Republicans have tried to stay out of the fray--and most of them have succeeded. But they're going to have to get down and dirty to put an end to this. Brass knocks time.

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I just love watching people totally abandon principle and logic in defense of this **** show.
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RE: If Rosenstein stonewalls again, he is gone
(05-10-2018 02:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 01:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 12:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-08-2018 07:40 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 03:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I thought most special counsels would just refer their findings to congress for further action. We'll see eventually I guess. Although it would be nice for something to make it to the SCOTUS level so some precedent could be set...however, I don't think we're likely to see anything like this for quite awhile if ever again.
Be prepared to see it EVERY time a pub wins the White House. It's the new template. Pay big bucks for dirt on the new guy in town, use your plants in the State Dept, DOJ, and FBI to feed the narrative to the MSM, go after him for several years via investigations to, at a minimum, disrupt his ability to lead the country, and at a maximum, get him impeached.
If you honestly think this would be happening to Mitt, Cruz, Kasich, Paul, etc. you're delusional. This is happening because nearly everything trump has touched in the way of people he hired or dealt with on his campaign and the beginnings of his administration coincidentally seems to have some sort of Russian connection.

I'd like to know exactly how you work in either politics or international business for very long without having a Russian connection. You can't do it. You just can't. I have numerous Russian connections, and I haven't been a major player in either of those arenas. Small player in both, but not a major player in either. The Bushes had numerous Russian connections. Al Gore had Russian connections--I know some of them.

I honestly think it would be happening to any republican and will be for the foreseeable future. Maybe it won't be Russians, maybe it will be something else, but it will be something. This is why I say republicans need to make it about issues. They will always lose the personality battles, because the deck is stacked against them there.

Until the republicans learn to fight fire with fire, this will keep happening. Republicans have tried to stay out of the fray--and most of them have succeeded. But they're going to have to get down and dirty to put an end to this. Brass knocks time.

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I just love watching people totally abandon principle and logic in defense of this **** show.

Like this...

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RE: If Rosenstein stonewalls again, he is gone
(05-10-2018 02:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 01:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 12:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-08-2018 07:40 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 03:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I thought most special counsels would just refer their findings to congress for further action. We'll see eventually I guess. Although it would be nice for something to make it to the SCOTUS level so some precedent could be set...however, I don't think we're likely to see anything like this for quite awhile if ever again.
Be prepared to see it EVERY time a pub wins the White House. It's the new template. Pay big bucks for dirt on the new guy in town, use your plants in the State Dept, DOJ, and FBI to feed the narrative to the MSM, go after him for several years via investigations to, at a minimum, disrupt his ability to lead the country, and at a maximum, get him impeached.
If you honestly think this would be happening to Mitt, Cruz, Kasich, Paul, etc. you're delusional. This is happening because nearly everything trump has touched in the way of people he hired or dealt with on his campaign and the beginnings of his administration coincidentally seems to have some sort of Russian connection.

I'd like to know exactly how you work in either politics or international business for very long without having a Russian connection. You can't do it. You just can't. I have numerous Russian connections, and I haven't been a major player in either of those arenas. Small player in both, but not a major player in either. The Bushes had numerous Russian connections. Al Gore had Russian connections--I know some of them.

I honestly think it would be happening to any republican and will be for the foreseeable future. Maybe it won't be Russians, maybe it will be something else, but it will be something. This is why I say republicans need to make it about issues. They will always lose the personality battles, because the deck is stacked against them there.

Until the republicans learn to fight fire with fire, this will keep happening. Republicans have tried to stay out of the fray--and most of them have succeeded. But they're going to have to get down and dirty to put an end to this. Brass knocks time.

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I just love watching people totally abandon principle and logic in defense of this **** show.

Yes. You'll have to explain to us how its so easy for you to do it. Do you really think Obama had no Russian connections? How about Hillary, who was a frackin Secretary of State and gave away 20% of our uranium reserves to the Russians---ya' think maybe she has a "connection" of two with Russians? Oh wait----didnt that sleazy Russian lovin' chick serve as the Bamster's Secretary of State? You do occasionally bring up some good points, but spare us the stance that you're consistent in any way. If you applied the same criteria you constantly apply to Trump, there would not be a politician that would be a viable candidate. 07-coffee3
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(05-10-2018 02:49 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Yes. You'll have to explain to how its so easy for you to do it. Do you really think Obama had no Russian connections? How about Hillary, who was a frackin Secretary of State and gave away 20% of our uranium reserves to the Russians---ya' think maybe she has a "connection" of two with Russians? Oh wait----didnt that sleazy Russian lovin' chick serve as the Bamster's Secretary of State? You do occasionally bring up some good points, but spare us the stance that you're consistent in any way. If you applied the same criteria you constant apply to Trump, there would not be a politician that would be a viable candidate. 07-coffee3

Indeed. Rest assured that any candidate from here forward who wins the White House with an ® following his name, will get the treatment I outlined. And I never mentioned the Russians.

Quote:Be prepared to see it EVERY time a pub wins the White House. It's the new template. Pay big bucks for dirt on the new guy in town, use your plants in the State Dept, DOJ, and FBI to feed the narrative to the MSM, go after him for several years via investigations to, at a minimum, disrupt his ability to lead the country, and at a maximum, get him impeached.
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(05-10-2018 09:36 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(05-08-2018 07:40 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 03:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I thought most special counsels would just refer their findings to congress for further action. We'll see eventually I guess. Although it would be nice for something to make it to the SCOTUS level so some precedent could be set...however, I don't think we're likely to see anything like this for quite awhile if ever again.

Be prepared to see it EVERY time a pub wins the White House. It's the new template. Pay big bucks for dirt on the new guy in town, use your plants in the State Dept, DOJ, and FBI to feed the narrative to the MSM, go after him for several years via investigations to, at a minimum, disrupt his ability to lead the country, and at a maximum, get him impeached.

that's XACLY! correct how it plays out moving forward when the dippos hold a minority position....

it's the only ammo they have.....common sense and bipartisan best method economic policy development is beyond their ability to grasp.....

they know there won't be a plantation worth owning if the slaves begin to find self worth....

You gotta quit using such big words. 03-razz
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(05-10-2018 02:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 01:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 12:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-08-2018 07:40 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 03:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I thought most special counsels would just refer their findings to congress for further action. We'll see eventually I guess. Although it would be nice for something to make it to the SCOTUS level so some precedent could be set...however, I don't think we're likely to see anything like this for quite awhile if ever again.
Be prepared to see it EVERY time a pub wins the White House. It's the new template. Pay big bucks for dirt on the new guy in town, use your plants in the State Dept, DOJ, and FBI to feed the narrative to the MSM, go after him for several years via investigations to, at a minimum, disrupt his ability to lead the country, and at a maximum, get him impeached.
If you honestly think this would be happening to Mitt, Cruz, Kasich, Paul, etc. you're delusional. This is happening because nearly everything trump has touched in the way of people he hired or dealt with on his campaign and the beginnings of his administration coincidentally seems to have some sort of Russian connection.

I'd like to know exactly how you work in either politics or international business for very long without having a Russian connection. You can't do it. You just can't. I have numerous Russian connections, and I haven't been a major player in either of those arenas. Small player in both, but not a major player in either. The Bushes had numerous Russian connections. Al Gore had Russian connections--I know some of them.

I honestly think it would be happening to any republican and will be for the foreseeable future. Maybe it won't be Russians, maybe it will be something else, but it will be something. This is why I say republicans need to make it about issues. They will always lose the personality battles, because the deck is stacked against them there.

Until the republicans learn to fight fire with fire, this will keep happening. Republicans have tried to stay out of the fray--and most of them have succeeded. But they're going to have to get down and dirty to put an end to this. Brass knocks time.

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I just love watching people totally abandon principle and logic in defense of this **** show.

Looking in the mirror to much lately huh? Principle and logic are easier to recognize when you get past butthurt and quit admiring yourself in the mirror.
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(05-10-2018 01:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 12:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-08-2018 07:40 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(05-03-2018 03:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I thought most special counsels would just refer their findings to congress for further action. We'll see eventually I guess. Although it would be nice for something to make it to the SCOTUS level so some precedent could be set...however, I don't think we're likely to see anything like this for quite awhile if ever again.
Be prepared to see it EVERY time a pub wins the White House. It's the new template. Pay big bucks for dirt on the new guy in town, use your plants in the State Dept, DOJ, and FBI to feed the narrative to the MSM, go after him for several years via investigations to, at a minimum, disrupt his ability to lead the country, and at a maximum, get him impeached.
If you honestly think this would be happening to Mitt, Cruz, Kasich, Paul, etc. you're delusional. This is happening because nearly everything trump has touched in the way of people he hired or dealt with on his campaign and the beginnings of his administration coincidentally seems to have some sort of Russian connection.

I'd like to know exactly how you work in either politics or international business for very long without having a Russian connection. You can't do it. You just can't. I have numerous Russian connections, and I haven't been a major player in either of those arenas. Small player in both, but not a major player in either. The Bushes had numerous Russian connections. Al Gore had Russian connections--I know some of them.

I honestly think it would be happening to any republican and will be for the foreseeable future. Maybe it won't be Russians, maybe it will be something else, but it will be something. This is why I say republicans need to make it about issues. They will always lose the personality battles, because the deck is stacked against them there.

Until the republicans learn to fight fire with fire, this will keep happening. Republicans have tried to stay out of the fray--and most of them have succeeded. But they're going to have to get down and dirty to put an end to this. Brass knocks time.

Spot on.

And if you are in NYC real estate, of course you will deal with Russians.
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(05-10-2018 02:49 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 02:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 01:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 12:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-08-2018 07:40 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  Be prepared to see it EVERY time a pub wins the White House. It's the new template. Pay big bucks for dirt on the new guy in town, use your plants in the State Dept, DOJ, and FBI to feed the narrative to the MSM, go after him for several years via investigations to, at a minimum, disrupt his ability to lead the country, and at a maximum, get him impeached.
If you honestly think this would be happening to Mitt, Cruz, Kasich, Paul, etc. you're delusional. This is happening because nearly everything trump has touched in the way of people he hired or dealt with on his campaign and the beginnings of his administration coincidentally seems to have some sort of Russian connection.

I'd like to know exactly how you work in either politics or international business for very long without having a Russian connection. You can't do it. You just can't. I have numerous Russian connections, and I haven't been a major player in either of those arenas. Small player in both, but not a major player in either. The Bushes had numerous Russian connections. Al Gore had Russian connections--I know some of them.

I honestly think it would be happening to any republican and will be for the foreseeable future. Maybe it won't be Russians, maybe it will be something else, but it will be something. This is why I say republicans need to make it about issues. They will always lose the personality battles, because the deck is stacked against them there.

Until the republicans learn to fight fire with fire, this will keep happening. Republicans have tried to stay out of the fray--and most of them have succeeded. But they're going to have to get down and dirty to put an end to this. Brass knocks time.

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I just love watching people totally abandon principle and logic in defense of this **** show.

Yes. You'll have to explain to us how its so easy for you to do it. Do you really think Obama had no Russian connections? How about Hillary, who was a frackin Secretary of State and gave away 20% of our uranium reserves to the Russians---ya' think maybe she has a "connection" of two with Russians? Oh wait----didnt that sleazy Russian lovin' chick serve as the Bamster's Secretary of State? You do occasionally bring up some good points, but spare us the stance that you're consistent in any way. If you applied the same criteria you constantly apply to Trump, there would not be a politician that would be a viable candidate. 07-coffee3

Tough to explain anything to anyone when they believe complete fiction.

Quote:But here's the thing ― by 20%, we really mean almost zero.

Those U.S. facilities obtained by Russia produce almost nothing. The uranium deposits are of relatively poor grade and are too costly to compete on the uranium market. But the facilities do have good milling capacity to process ore, if anyone gives it to them, which hasn’t happened in about 10 years. Theoretically, they could process 20% of our ore, but that will never happen. Uranium One couldn’t give these facilities away.

Besides, Russia can’t export any uranium they produce in the U.S. They do not possess a Nuclear Regulatory Commission export license.

The real reason Russia wanted this deal was to give Rosatom’s subsidiary Uranium One's very profitable uranium mines in Kazakhstan ― the single largest producer of commercial uranium in the world.
Claims of Clinton-Russia Uranium Collusion Are A Real Empty Barrel

No, Hillary Clinton did not "give Russia 20 percent of the uranium” in the US
The repeated, incorrect claim that Russia obtained ‘20 percent of our uranium'
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