(05-20-2018 06:03 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 05:07 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 04:07 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  There is really not that much local talent.

I agree, many area schools don't even have a team. There is a average pool of talent around the area but with the SEC casting such a powerful baseball shadow it is difficult to keep the good talent at home. I really don't know what the answer is, but other AAC schools have done very well with baseball so it can be done.

You guys must not watch alot of high school basebsll

At the park 3-4x’s per week and travel all summer. I think all I do from March to July is watch HS baseball.

(05-20-2018 03:50 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 01:43 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 12:00 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-19-2018 11:46 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Got to fire the HC.

Maybe it is time.

But can we realistically compete for quality recruits in this region when 3/4 of the teams are either in top 25 or have been in past 5 years.

Almost no one is getting a full ride in baseball due to scholarship limits. So what is our selling point?

Could we push the HOPE Scholarships as a benefit to stay home for Memphis and west Tennessee kids?

We cannot afford to match dollar for dollar the area SEC teams facility wise.

We are still behind most of these schools academically and that is more in play with baseball than other sports.

OK we get a new coach, but we have to do something to at least give him a fighting chance to compete and not just throw him to the lions.

So, to be clear, it's not because of lack of TSF money, but because of Title IX, correct?

NCAA limits baseball (9 starters)to 11.7 scholarships. That is barely enough to cover a starting team and three bench players.

Compare that to basketball (5 starters) with 13 which gives you 1st and 2nd string and 3 extra players.

Football 85 (22 starters not counting special teams)which gives you up to 3 full string teams and almost 4th string teams.

Baseball should allow at least 16 scholarships.

http://www.scholarshipstats.com/ncaalimits.html

Lots of excuses. None are valid imo.

(05-20-2018 07:01 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 03:50 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 01:43 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 12:00 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-19-2018 11:46 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Got to fire the HC.

Maybe it is time.

But can we realistically compete for quality recruits in this region when 3/4 of the teams are either in top 25 or have been in past 5 years.

Almost no one is getting a full ride in baseball due to scholarship limits. So what is our selling point?

Could we push the HOPE Scholarships as a benefit to stay home for Memphis and west Tennessee kids?

We cannot afford to match dollar for dollar the area SEC teams facility wise.

We are still behind most of these schools academically and that is more in play with baseball than other sports.

OK we get a new coach, but we have to do something to at least give him a fighting chance to compete and not just throw him to the lions.

So, to be clear, it's not because of lack of TSF money, but because of Title IX, correct?

NCAA limits baseball (9 starters)to 11.7 scholarships. That is barely enough to cover a starting team and three bench players.

Compare that to basketball (5 starters) with 13 which gives you 1st and 2nd string and 3 extra players.

Football 85 (22 starters not counting special teams)which gives you up to 3 full string teams and almost 4th string teams.

Baseball should allow at least 16 scholarships.

http://www.scholarshipstats.com/ncaalimits.html

Lots of excuses. None are valid imo.

Every school has the same limitations. Some are doing better with their resources than the Tigers.

We need a hungry young coach that bleeds Memphis Tiger blue.

(05-20-2018 07:49 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  We need a hungry young coach that bleeds Memphis Tiger blue.

On that I do not disagree. I think we see CBU more than we see Memphis.

(05-20-2018 07:06 PM)karter25 Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 07:01 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 03:50 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 01:43 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 12:00 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Maybe it is time.

But can we realistically compete for quality recruits in this region when 3/4 of the teams are either in top 25 or have been in past 5 years.

Almost no one is getting a full ride in baseball due to scholarship limits. So what is our selling point?

Could we push the HOPE Scholarships as a benefit to stay home for Memphis and west Tennessee kids?

We cannot afford to match dollar for dollar the area SEC teams facility wise.

We are still behind most of these schools academically and that is more in play with baseball than other sports.

OK we get a new coach, but we have to do something to at least give him a fighting chance to compete and not just throw him to the lions.

So, to be clear, it's not because of lack of TSF money, but because of Title IX, correct?

NCAA limits baseball (9 starters)to 11.7 scholarships. That is barely enough to cover a starting team and three bench players.

Compare that to basketball (5 starters) with 13 which gives you 1st and 2nd string and 3 extra players.

Football 85 (22 starters not counting special teams)which gives you up to 3 full string teams and almost 4th string teams.

Baseball should allow at least 16 scholarships.

http://www.scholarshipstats.com/ncaalimits.html

Lots of excuses. None are valid imo.

Every school has the same limitations. Some are doing better with their resources than the Tigers.

Yea but if you know you are going to foot part of the bill do you want to go to place where you are guaranteed more TV coverage and exposure and make the NCAA's or a place which get little coverage even in their own home town.

(05-20-2018 07:06 PM)karter25 Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 07:01 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 03:50 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 01:43 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 12:00 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Maybe it is time.

But can we realistically compete for quality recruits in this region when 3/4 of the teams are either in top 25 or have been in past 5 years.

Almost no one is getting a full ride in baseball due to scholarship limits. So what is our selling point?

Could we push the HOPE Scholarships as a benefit to stay home for Memphis and west Tennessee kids?

We cannot afford to match dollar for dollar the area SEC teams facility wise.

We are still behind most of these schools academically and that is more in play with baseball than other sports.

OK we get a new coach, but we have to do something to at least give him a fighting chance to compete and not just throw him to the lions.

So, to be clear, it's not because of lack of TSF money, but because of Title IX, correct?

NCAA limits baseball (9 starters)to 11.7 scholarships. That is barely enough to cover a starting team and three bench players.

Compare that to basketball (5 starters) with 13 which gives you 1st and 2nd string and 3 extra players.

Football 85 (22 starters not counting special teams)which gives you up to 3 full string teams and almost 4th string teams.

Baseball should allow at least 16 scholarships.

http://www.scholarshipstats.com/ncaalimits.html

Lots of excuses. None are valid imo.

Every school has the same limitations. Some are doing better with their resources than the Tigers.

Guess we can't compete with the likes of Coastal Carolina budget wise.

Who would be a good fit for the program? Who could we get that will have the energy to get the program back to where it needs to be. Yet is not likely to use the job as a stepping stone to a P5 job?

Cozart may be a decent fit but do not think he will retire anytime soon. He is only 33 and still playing daily for the Angels.

Every sport Memphis has lost coaches to bigger jobs if that's your reason for not wanting to hire a new coach it's a dumb one.

(05-21-2018 07:20 AM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  Every sport Memphis has lost coaches to bigger jobs if that's your reason for not wanting to hire a new coach it's a dumb one.

The premise of my post is OK we have decided to hire a new coach.

It is no longer a question of if we hire a new coach but who will it be.

What are our options. Who would be the best option based on the criteria of having an energetic coach who can go out and get the player, knows how to successful and we would still be able to hold on to for at least 5 years.

When the decision is made to make a change we need to examine our options carefully.

Rock has proved for over 10 years he cannot take the program to the next level!! So...he has proved he can't do it, but the AD doesn't seem to care based on previous 10 + year Rock's history..

And yes there is plenty of high level D1 talent in the metro area to recruit. Over the last few years Rock has begun recruiting non D1 players. IMO he's given up.

But if the Administration doesn't care then I guess nobody cares and lack of interest...

Sad state of affairs.

The folks who rented out the leftfield deck for Friday night's game vs Wichita State seemed to be having a good time.