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RE: UTRGV approaching decision on starting football
(04-24-2018 11:38 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-24-2018 09:01 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(04-24-2018 07:45 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(04-24-2018 07:20 PM)NoDak Wrote:  With TAMU-International is in Laredo and just joining the Lone Star Conference, doesn’t it make sense for UTRGV to have football first, thereby further establishing UTRGV as the foremost athletic school in that border region?

UTRGV is much bigger, but the UT-TAMU rivalry extends much further downstream.

They will never get to a power conference...and in reality we have too many 1A teams (yes I know that term is obsolete)...I think they'll eventually find their way to the Sun Belt unless the WAC sponsors FB again.
The G5 except the AAC is the new FCS. The P5 effectively endorses watering down the G5. The Sun Belt could have forestalled this by keeping NMSU.

As stated months before, this is the plan for a new WAC.
WAC FBS
Pacific Div
UC Davis
Sac St
Cal Poly
Cal Baptist*
GCU*
NMSU

Plains Div
UTGRV
Lamar
Sam Houston St
S F Austin or IWU and/or Wichita St (fb only)
Mo St (fb only)
Oral Roberts*
UMKC*

* - No fb

Idaho, the Montanas and Weber St will leave the Big Sky to the Summit- Great Northern, which will be in “close association” with the WAC at least in the beginning. The Big Sky will take UVU, Seattle, CWU, Azusa Pacific, and Dixie St to rebuild. 2020 is the target date for those league and 2020 may be when they start FBS transitions.

Gotten unbelievable flack for saying the G5 will be expanding. In the next couple of weeks it will begin playing out.


Just say no to Oral Roberts and UMKC. They will be in the Summit.
You keep forgetting Azusa Pacific, Dixie State, Central Washington, CSU-Pueblo, Colorado Mesa and any of the Lone Star schools. A couple of Lone Star schools already have FBS ready stadiums.

UMKC left the Summit because even back then, they knew something was happening for a new FBS WAC. Getting small exposure to Texas is a lot better than huge exposure in the Dakotas. ORU would love a SW league that is so much more reputable than the Southland. It’s so much better for alumni and recruiting students.

No DII school will be invited to an FBS wannabe conference. The DI and FBS transitions are just too much and can’t be done simultaneously. They need to be sequential.
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Here’s a YouTube from 2 years ago. UTSA is the model they look at for getting FBS going.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M2D6dshUQ9g

They kept quiet as they don’t want politicians and the NCAA running interference. If they were interested in FCS, why did they not move quicker. Tarleton St moving to the WAC is just a mirage trying to fake boards out. Tarleton didn’t even include WAC travel expenses in its study, but did include Southland travel costs. Some schools are leaving the Southland, and Tarleton St will get the nod to backfill.
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(04-25-2018 12:47 AM)NoDak Wrote:  UMKC left the Summit because even back then, they knew something was happening for a new FBS WAC. Getting small exposure to Texas is a lot better than huge exposure in the Dakotas. ORU would love a SW league that is so much more reputable than the Southland. It’s so much better for alumni and recruiting students.

No DII school will be invited to an FBS wannabe conference. The DI and FBS transitions are just too much and can’t be done simultaneously. They need to be sequential.

Except, that on THIS planet: Cal Baptist to WAC

So, is your new conspiracy that Cal Baptist isn't REALLY joining the WAC? Not good enough.

Step up your tinfoil hat game, man. Ignoring relevant evidence has been done--if you want to stay competitive with QAnon and other cutting-edge lunatics, you need to make up some serious crazy. Make the conspiracy theory that Cal Baptist isn't a university--it's an internet hoax.
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RE: UTRGV approaching decision on starting football
(04-25-2018 05:58 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(04-25-2018 12:47 AM)NoDak Wrote:  UMKC left the Summit because even back then, they knew something was happening for a new FBS WAC. Getting small exposure to Texas is a lot better than huge exposure in the Dakotas. ORU would love a SW league that is so much more reputable than the Southland. It’s so much better for alumni and recruiting students.

No DII football school will be invited to an FBS wannabe conference. The DI and FBS transitions are just too much and can’t be done simultaneously. They need to be sequential.

Except, that on THIS planet: Cal Baptist to WAC

So, is your new conspiracy that Cal Baptist isn't REALLY joining the WAC? Not good enough.

Step up your tinfoil hat game, man. Ignoring relevant evidence has been done--if you want to stay competitive with QAnon and other cutting-edge lunatics, you need to make up some serious crazy. Make the conspiracy theory that Cal Baptist isn't a university--it's an internet hoax.

Only an idiot would say Cal Baptist is a football school. And that’s what you have said.

Denver essentially moved from DII to the Sum Belt back when there wasn’t a long transition and a conference invite wasn’t a necessary. Denver still doesn’t have football and doesn’t intend too add it. What part of FBS do you not understand?
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RE: UTRGV approaching decision on starting football
(04-25-2018 06:54 AM)NoDak Wrote:  
(04-25-2018 05:58 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(04-25-2018 12:47 AM)NoDak Wrote:  UMKC left the Summit because even back then, they knew something was happening for a new FBS WAC. Getting small exposure to Texas is a lot better than huge exposure in the Dakotas. ORU would love a SW league that is so much more reputable than the Southland. It’s so much better for alumni and recruiting students.

No DII football school will be invited to an FBS wannabe conference. The DI and FBS transitions are just too much and can’t be done simultaneously. They need to be sequential.

Except, that on THIS planet: Cal Baptist to WAC

So, is your new conspiracy that Cal Baptist isn't REALLY joining the WAC? Not good enough.

Step up your tinfoil hat game, man. Ignoring relevant evidence has been done--if you want to stay competitive with QAnon and other cutting-edge lunatics, you need to make up some serious crazy. Make the conspiracy theory that Cal Baptist isn't a university--it's an internet hoax.

Only an idiot would say Cal Baptist is a football school. And that’s what you have said.

Denver essentially moved from DII to the Sum Belt back when there wasn’t a long transition and a conference invite wasn’t a necessary. Denver still doesn’t have football and doesn’t intend too add it. What part of FBS do you not understand?

My fault. Even as I bolded it, I didn't notice the word "football."

So I get to be the idiot today.
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RE: UTRGV approaching decision on starting football
(04-25-2018 07:21 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(04-25-2018 06:54 AM)NoDak Wrote:  
(04-25-2018 05:58 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(04-25-2018 12:47 AM)NoDak Wrote:  UMKC left the Summit because even back then, they knew something was happening for a new FBS WAC. Getting small exposure to Texas is a lot better than huge exposure in the Dakotas. ORU would love a SW league that is so much more reputable than the Southland. It’s so much better for alumni and recruiting students.

No DII football school will be invited to an FBS wannabe conference. The DI and FBS transitions are just too much and can’t be done simultaneously. They need to be sequential.

Except, that on THIS planet: Cal Baptist to WAC

So, is your new conspiracy that Cal Baptist isn't REALLY joining the WAC? Not good enough.

Step up your tinfoil hat game, man. Ignoring relevant evidence has been done--if you want to stay competitive with QAnon and other cutting-edge lunatics, you need to make up some serious crazy. Make the conspiracy theory that Cal Baptist isn't a university--it's an internet hoax.

Only an idiot would say Cal Baptist is a football school. And that’s what you have said.

Denver essentially moved from DII to the Sum Belt back when there wasn’t a long transition and a conference invite wasn’t a necessary. Denver still doesn’t have football and doesn’t intend too add it. What part of FBS do you not understand?

My fault. Even as I bolded it, I didn't notice the word "football."

So I get to be the idiot today.

Don't feel bad. He added in "football" after you originally quoted him.
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RE: UTRGV approaching decision on starting football
(04-25-2018 07:42 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(04-25-2018 07:21 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(04-25-2018 06:54 AM)NoDak Wrote:  
(04-25-2018 05:58 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(04-25-2018 12:47 AM)NoDak Wrote:  UMKC left the Summit because even back then, they knew something was happening for a new FBS WAC. Getting small exposure to Texas is a lot better than huge exposure in the Dakotas. ORU would love a SW league that is so much more reputable than the Southland. It’s so much better for alumni and recruiting students.

No DII football school will be invited to an FBS wannabe conference. The DI and FBS transitions are just too much and can’t be done simultaneously. They need to be sequential.

Except, that on THIS planet: Cal Baptist to WAC

So, is your new conspiracy that Cal Baptist isn't REALLY joining the WAC? Not good enough.

Step up your tinfoil hat game, man. Ignoring relevant evidence has been done--if you want to stay competitive with QAnon and other cutting-edge lunatics, you need to make up some serious crazy. Make the conspiracy theory that Cal Baptist isn't a university--it's an internet hoax.

Only an idiot would say Cal Baptist is a football school. And that’s what you have said.

Denver essentially moved from DII to the Sum Belt back when there wasn’t a long transition and a conference invite wasn’t a necessary. Denver still doesn’t have football and doesn’t intend too add it. What part of FBS do you not understand?

My fault. Even as I bolded it, I didn't notice the word "football."

So I get to be the idiot today.

Don't feel bad. He added in "football" after you originally quoted him.

That goes without saying it. Anyone with half a brain knows a non football D2 doesnt impact low level FBS.
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RE: UTRGV approaching decision on starting football
(04-25-2018 08:21 AM)NoDak Wrote:  
(04-25-2018 07:42 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(04-25-2018 07:21 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(04-25-2018 06:54 AM)NoDak Wrote:  
(04-25-2018 05:58 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  Except, that on THIS planet: Cal Baptist to WAC

So, is your new conspiracy that Cal Baptist isn't REALLY joining the WAC? Not good enough.

Step up your tinfoil hat game, man. Ignoring relevant evidence has been done--if you want to stay competitive with QAnon and other cutting-edge lunatics, you need to make up some serious crazy. Make the conspiracy theory that Cal Baptist isn't a university--it's an internet hoax.

Only an idiot would say Cal Baptist is a football school. And that’s what you have said.

Denver essentially moved from DII to the Sum Belt back when there wasn’t a long transition and a conference invite wasn’t a necessary. Denver still doesn’t have football and doesn’t intend too add it. What part of FBS do you not understand?

My fault. Even as I bolded it, I didn't notice the word "football."

So I get to be the idiot today.

Don't feel bad. He added in "football" after you originally quoted him.

That goes without saying it. Anyone with half a brain knows a non football D2 doesnt impact low level FBS.

Anyone with half a brain knows that the WAC doesn't impact low level FBS either. Unless they're also huge liars. Take your pick.
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WAC could be just an FCS football conference, then having schools like UTRGV, Tarleton State and some other D2 schools playing at D2? Invite Lamar and any other schools that wanted FBS and have the WAC upgrade as a whole to the FBS level to join New Mexico State. We already know that West Texas A&M used to be an Independent FBS or back in the old days 1A in football. They are still using the same stadium as they did back then.
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UTRGV may be attracted to football in an effort to unite the various communities in The Valley in which the campuses are spread. Remember, UTRGV does not have the usual campus set-up. It is spread around in a lot of different towns in a region that has not always worked together. Just a thought.
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Guys, if anyone is trying to think about UTRGV in the Belt, don't. UTPA was a member of the Sun Belt and withdrew from the conference to join a no-bid conference about 20 minutes before they were going to be ejected. I'd rather have Lamar, and I don't want Lamar in the conference.

So the Belt won't have them (and they really won't have them), CUSA is full, the WAC isn't going to have a share of the playoff pool, and they're going to find being a FBS independent without annual games with two rivals (like NMSU has with UNM and UTEP) already keyed in very difficult.

They would have to be dumber than a box of rocks to go down this route. FCS, with an eye on getting out of the WAC to the Southland? Sure.
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Lamar and Sam Houston St have made noise before 2012 that they wanted a Sun Belt invite. The Sun Belt has rejected them. After the WAC’s FBS status was lost, suddenly they quieted down on FBS. It’s like they know they have a spot when the WAC starts FBS again. UTRGV has burned bridges with the Belt before. Those three schools have FBS as a goal and only the WAC can help attain that goal. FCS is barely relevant to Texas. A semi-serious athletic school has to be FBS there.
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(04-24-2018 11:38 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-24-2018 09:01 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(04-24-2018 07:45 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(04-24-2018 07:20 PM)NoDak Wrote:  With TAMU-International is in Laredo and just joining the Lone Star Conference, doesn’t it make sense for UTRGV to have football first, thereby further establishing UTRGV as the foremost athletic school in that border region?

UTRGV is much bigger, but the UT-TAMU rivalry extends much further downstream.

They will never get to a power conference...and in reality we have too many 1A teams (yes I know that term is obsolete)...I think they'll eventually find their way to the Sun Belt unless the WAC sponsors FB again.
The G5 except the AAC is the new FCS. The P5 effectively endorses watering down the G5. The Sun Belt could have forestalled this by keeping NMSU.

As stated months before, this is the plan for a new WAC.
WAC FBS
Pacific Div
UC Davis
Sac St
Cal Poly
Cal Baptist*
GCU*
NMSU

Plains Div
UTGRV
Lamar
Sam Houston St
S F Austin or IWU and/or Wichita St (fb only)
Mo St (fb only)
Oral Roberts*
UMKC*

* - No fb

Idaho, the Montanas and Weber St will leave the Big Sky to the Summit- Great Northern, which will be in “close association” with the WAC at least in the beginning. The Big Sky will take UVU, Seattle, CWU, Azusa Pacific, and Dixie St to rebuild. 2020 is the target date for those league and 2020 may be when they start FBS transitions.

Gotten unbelievable flack for saying the G5 will be expanding. In the next couple of weeks it will begin playing out.


Just say no to Oral Roberts and UMKC. They will be in the Summit.
You keep forgetting Azusa Pacific, Dixie State, Central Washington, CSU-Pueblo, Colorado Mesa and any of the Lone Star schools. A couple of Lone Star schools already have FBS ready stadiums.

Which Lone Star schools have FBS ready stadiums? Heck, no Southland school has an FBS ready stadium.
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(04-25-2018 09:16 AM)UTArlingtonMaverick Wrote:  UTRGV may be attracted to football in an effort to unite the various communities in The Valley in which the campuses are spread. Remember, UTRGV does not have the usual campus set-up. It is spread around in a lot of different towns in a region that has not always worked together. Just a thought.

True.

In addition, UTRGV is positioning itself as a brand new school, separate from the former UT-Pan American and UT-Brownsville. The addition of football would add to the positioning of UTRGV as a new entity for the Valley.

However, I agree with the posters above when they say FBS is a pipe dream for UTRGV. If they went FCS and could get into the Southland, they could do well.
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(04-25-2018 11:13 AM)johnintx Wrote:  
(04-25-2018 09:16 AM)UTArlingtonMaverick Wrote:  UTRGV may be attracted to football in an effort to unite the various communities in The Valley in which the campuses are spread. Remember, UTRGV does not have the usual campus set-up. It is spread around in a lot of different towns in a region that has not always worked together. Just a thought.

True.

In addition, UTRGV is positioning itself as a brand new school, separate from the former UT-Pan American and UT-Brownsville. The addition of football would add to the positioning of UTRGV as a new entity for the Valley.

However, I agree with the posters above when they say FBS is a pipe dream for UTRGV. If they went FCS and could get into the Southland, they could do well.

I'm biased because I'd like to see WAC football restored someday and I see the WAC -- assuming it survives the current transition period -- as the most likely long-term landing spot for western FCS schools that eventually want to move up to FBS.

Having admitted that, I would be surprised to see UTRGV settle for FCS. We're talking about a UT system school here, with an enrollment larger than UTEP or UTSA. I've always said that ego is as much of a factor as money in university athletics and conference affiliation decisions. I think the UTRGV administration wants to put the school on the map and if so I think they will try to find a way to justify building up to an FBS program.
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SeattleU will be forced to play on campus where that gym holds only 999. The OVG they are they ppl bring the NHL to Seattle and remodeling the Key has made it known they don't plan on having SU as a tenant at the refurbished Key. The interesting part in this SU athletics from the AD to the MBB coaches seem to think they are going back once the Key is finished. One side isn't telling the truth.
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Is there a source for this? If this is true, then that doesn't bode well for Seattle U's chances to escape the WAC. Of course, on this board there seems to be a brewing rivalry with their natural adversary UTRGV, so maybe they enjoy life in the WAC?
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(04-25-2018 10:21 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
(04-24-2018 11:38 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-24-2018 09:01 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(04-24-2018 07:45 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(04-24-2018 07:20 PM)NoDak Wrote:  With TAMU-International is in Laredo and just joining the Lone Star Conference, doesn’t it make sense for UTRGV to have football first, thereby further establishing UTRGV as the foremost athletic school in that border region?

UTRGV is much bigger, but the UT-TAMU rivalry extends much further downstream.

They will never get to a power conference...and in reality we have too many 1A teams (yes I know that term is obsolete)...I think they'll eventually find their way to the Sun Belt unless the WAC sponsors FB again.
The G5 except the AAC is the new FCS. The P5 effectively endorses watering down the G5. The Sun Belt could have forestalled this by keeping NMSU.

As stated months before, this is the plan for a new WAC.
WAC FBS
Pacific Div
UC Davis
Sac St
Cal Poly
Cal Baptist*
GCU*
NMSU

Plains Div
UTGRV
Lamar
Sam Houston St
S F Austin or IWU and/or Wichita St (fb only)
Mo St (fb only)
Oral Roberts*
UMKC*

* - No fb

Idaho, the Montanas and Weber St will leave the Big Sky to the Summit- Great Northern, which will be in “close association” with the WAC at least in the beginning. The Big Sky will take UVU, Seattle, CWU, Azusa Pacific, and Dixie St to rebuild. 2020 is the target date for those league and 2020 may be when they start FBS transitions.

Gotten unbelievable flack for saying the G5 will be expanding. In the next couple of weeks it will begin playing out.


Just say no to Oral Roberts and UMKC. They will be in the Summit.
You keep forgetting Azusa Pacific, Dixie State, Central Washington, CSU-Pueblo, Colorado Mesa and any of the Lone Star schools. A couple of Lone Star schools already have FBS ready stadiums.

Which Lone Star schools have FBS ready stadiums? Heck, no Southland school has an FBS ready stadium.

Having spent time around the league, none of them.

I am going to assume that David and NoDak would say West Texas A&M and UT-Permian Basi because there are 4 schools currently in FBS with 20,000 or less seats (Coastal Carolina, Charlotte, Old Dominion and and UMASS)

West Texas A&M still has access to the 20,000 seat Kimbrough Memorial.
Although they are moving to a new 12,000 seat D2 stadium.

and UTPB which plays in Odessa Permian's high school stadium (19,000)
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(04-25-2018 12:01 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  
(04-25-2018 10:21 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
(04-24-2018 11:38 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-24-2018 09:01 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(04-24-2018 07:45 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  They will never get to a power conference...and in reality we have too many 1A teams (yes I know that term is obsolete)...I think they'll eventually find their way to the Sun Belt unless the WAC sponsors FB again.
The G5 except the AAC is the new FCS. The P5 effectively endorses watering down the G5. The Sun Belt could have forestalled this by keeping NMSU.

As stated months before, this is the plan for a new WAC.
WAC FBS
Pacific Div
UC Davis
Sac St
Cal Poly
Cal Baptist*
GCU*
NMSU

Plains Div
UTGRV
Lamar
Sam Houston St
S F Austin or IWU and/or Wichita St (fb only)
Mo St (fb only)
Oral Roberts*
UMKC*

* - No fb

Idaho, the Montanas and Weber St will leave the Big Sky to the Summit- Great Northern, which will be in “close association” with the WAC at least in the beginning. The Big Sky will take UVU, Seattle, CWU, Azusa Pacific, and Dixie St to rebuild. 2020 is the target date for those league and 2020 may be when they start FBS transitions.

Gotten unbelievable flack for saying the G5 will be expanding. In the next couple of weeks it will begin playing out.


Just say no to Oral Roberts and UMKC. They will be in the Summit.
You keep forgetting Azusa Pacific, Dixie State, Central Washington, CSU-Pueblo, Colorado Mesa and any of the Lone Star schools. A couple of Lone Star schools already have FBS ready stadiums.

Which Lone Star schools have FBS ready stadiums? Heck, no Southland school has an FBS ready stadium.

Having spent time around the league, none of them.

I am going to assume that David and NoDak would say West Texas A&M and UT-Permian Basi because there are 4 schools currently in FBS with 20,000 or less seats (Coastal Carolina, Charlotte, Old Dominion and and UMASS)

West Texas A&M still has access to the 20,000 seat Kimbrough Memorial.
Although they are moving to a new 12,000 seat D2 stadium.

and UTPB which plays in Odessa Permian's high school stadium (19,000)
So when have I stated that a D2 fb school would move right to FBS? A: Never.

FBS is a financial major step up from FCS which is a major financial step up from D2.
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(04-24-2018 11:38 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(04-24-2018 09:01 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(04-24-2018 07:45 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(04-24-2018 07:20 PM)NoDak Wrote:  With TAMU-International is in Laredo and just joining the Lone Star Conference, doesn’t it make sense for UTRGV to have football first, thereby further establishing UTRGV as the foremost athletic school in that border region?

UTRGV is much bigger, but the UT-TAMU rivalry extends much further downstream.

They will never get to a power conference...and in reality we have too many 1A teams (yes I know that term is obsolete)...I think they'll eventually find their way to the Sun Belt unless the WAC sponsors FB again.
The G5 except the AAC is the new FCS. The P5 effectively endorses watering down the G5. The Sun Belt could have forestalled this by keeping NMSU.

As stated months before, this is the plan for a new WAC.
WAC FBS
Pacific Div
UC Davis
Sac St
Cal Poly
Cal Baptist*
GCU*
NMSU

Plains Div
UTGRV
Lamar
Sam Houston St
S F Austin or IWU and/or Wichita St (fb only)
Mo St (fb only)
Oral Roberts*
UMKC*

* - No fb

Idaho, the Montanas and Weber St will leave the Big Sky to the Summit- Great Northern, which will be in “close association” with the WAC at least in the beginning. The Big Sky will take UVU, Seattle, CWU, Azusa Pacific, and Dixie St to rebuild. 2020 is the target date for those league and 2020 may be when they start FBS transitions.

Gotten unbelievable flack for saying the G5 will be expanding. In the next couple of weeks it will begin playing out.


Just say no to Oral Roberts and UMKC. They will be in the Summit.
You keep forgetting Azusa Pacific, Dixie State, Central Washington, CSU-Pueblo, Colorado Mesa and any of the Lone Star schools. A couple of Lone Star schools already have FBS ready stadiums.

Which Lone Star schools have FBS ready stadiums? Heck, no Southland school has an FBS ready stadium.

Using Jerry Richardson Stadium (UNC-Charlotte) with a stated capacity of 15,300 as a comparison, the following, except for Javelina Stadium, meet or exceed that stadium's capacity. http://www.charlotte49ers.com/sports/201...px?id=1666

Lone Star Conference
West Texas A&M - Kimbrough Memorial Stadium - 20,000 would have been one. That stadium is being replaced with an 8,500 seat stadium - expandable to 14,000. Approval for the new stadium was last Thursday. https://www.sportsvenue-technology.com/n...ll-stadium
UT - Permian Basiin - Ratliff Stadium - 19,302
Texas A&M - Kingsville - Javelina Stadium - 15,000 - (15,000 is the magic number for NCAA FBS attendance requirements.)

Southland Conference
McNeese State - Cowboy Stadium - 17,410 permanent seats - Official capacity does not include additional berm capacity. (Record attendance: 27,500)
Lamar - Provost Umphrey Stadium - 16,000 permanent seats - Official capacity does not include additional berm capacity. (Record attendance: 18,500)
Northwestern State - Harry Turpin Stadium - 15,971 (Record attendance: 17,598)

If berm seating is included in official capacity as some universities currently do, add these Southland Conference universities.
Stephen F. Austin - Homer Bryce Stadium - 14,575 with record attendance of 23,617
Sam Houston State - Bowers Stadium - 12,593 (Record attendance: 16,148)

All in the list have a capacity greater than Coastal Carolina's Brooks Stadium had (9,214) at the time of its Sun Belt conference invitation.
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(04-24-2018 09:20 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  Your last prediction failed. Your July 1 guarantee will fail, as will this.


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