Close to 25% of the top 40 will be G5

(07-15-2018 01:12 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  Close to 25% of the top 40 will be G5

clt says espn is not going to like that.

Ohio is in at 42. Updates on the way.

With Ohio in at 42, the MAC's rating slips a little, but not enough to change the rankings. It's close, but C-USA remains in fourth in the G5 race to September. Here's your update.

AAC 76.33
MWC 76.75
MAC 80.67
C-USA 80.79
SBC 92.20

BIG-12 44.40
SEC 45.72
B1G 47.36
ACC 54.15
PAC-12 56.67

IND 68.40

7/16/2018

Includes Ohio at 42

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/co...story.html

42. Ohio
43. Wake Forest
44. Kansas State
45. UCLA
46. North Texas
47. NC State
48. Washington State
49. LA Tech
50. Temple
51. Wyoming
52. Buffalo
53. UAB
54. App State
55. Army
56. MTSU
57. Ole Miss
58. Boston College
59. BYU
60. Northern Illinois
61. Missouri
62. Arizona
63. Miami (Ohio)
64. Arkansas State
65. Maryland
66. Louisville
67. Purdue
68. Houston
69. Kentucky
70. California
71. North Carolina
72. South Florida
73. Texas Tech
74. Minnesota
75. Oregon
76. Pitt
77. Navy
78. Air Force
79. Arizona State
80. Cincinnati
81. UNLV
82. Western Michigan
83. SMU
84. Utah State
85. Eastern Michigan
86. Old Dominion
87. New Mexico State
88. Tennessee
89. Georgia Tech
90. Rutgers
91. Arkansas
92. Indiana
93. Baylor
94. Virginia
95. Southern Miss
96. LA Monroe
97. Akron
98. Western Kentucky
99. South Alabama
100. UConn
101. Colorado State
102. Bowling Green
103. UTSA
104. Georgia State
105. Colorado
106. Vanderbilt
107. Illinois
108. Kansas
109. Syracuse
110. New Mexico
111. Tulsa
112. Oregon State
113. Nevada
114. Tulane
115. Georgia Southern
116. Hawaii
117. Central Michigan
118. Louisiana
119. ECU
120. UMass
121. Ball State
122. FIU
123. Coastal Carolina
124. San Jose State
125. Charlotte
126. Kent State
127. Rice
128. Texas State
129. UTEP

AAC - 10 of 12 - ECU (119), Tulane (114), Tulsa (111), UConn (100), SMU (83), Cincinnati (80), Navy (77), South Florida (72), Houston (68), Temple (50)
CUSA - 12 of 14 - UTEP (129), Rice (127), Charlotte (125), FIU (122), UTSA (103), Western Kentucky (98), Southern Miss (95), Old Dominion (86), MTSU (56), UAB (53), LA Tech (49), UNT (46)
MAC - 11 of 12- Kent State (126), Ball State (121), Central Michigan (117), Bowling Green (102), Akron (97), Eastern Michigan (85), Western Michigan, Miami (Ohio) 63, Northern Illinois (60), Buffalo (52), Ohio (42)
MWC - 8 of 12- San Jose State (124), Hawaii (116), Nevada (113), New Mexico (110), Colorado State (101), Utah State (84), UNLV (81), Air Force (78), Wyoming (51)
SBC - 9 of 10 - Texas State (128), Coastal Carolina (123), Louisiana (118), Georgia Southern (115), Georgia State (104), South Alabama (99), LA Monroe (96), Arkansas State (64), App State (54)

ACC - 9 of 14 - Syracuse (109), Virginia (94), Georgia Tech (89), Pitt (76), North Carolina (71), Louisville (66), Boston College (58), NC State (47), Wake Forest (43)
B1G - 6 of 14 - Illinois (107), Indiana (92), Rutgers (90), Minnesota (74), Purdue (67), Maryland (65)
BIG12 - 4 of 10 - Kansas (108), Baylor (93), Texas Tech (73), Kansas State (44)
PAC12 - 8 of 12 - Oregon State (112), Colorado (105), Arizona State (79), Oregon (75), California (70), Arizona (62), Washington State (48), UCLA (45)
SEC - 6 of 14 - Vanderbilt (106), Arkansas (91), Tennessee (88), Kentucky (69), Missouri (61), Ole Miss (57)

IND - 4 of 5 - UMass (120), New Mexico State (87), BYU (59), Army (55)

Here are the G5 teams that have yet to make Uncle Matt’s countdown as of 7/16.

AAC (2) – UCF and Memphis
C-USA (2) – FAU and Marshall
MAC (1)– Toledo
MWC (3) – Boise State, Fresno State, and San Diego State
SBC (1) – Troy

Been off the board for a while and just got to check in. Great thread with a lot of good chatter/ trash talk. Looking forward to the season everyone!

I don't understand Toledo still being out there. As I read up on them for our bowl game last year I noticed they had a lot of seniors on their lines as well as a great senior RB and one of the best G5 QBs who was drafted. They must have had a heck of a recruiting class.
sincerely,
Rocketman's Daddy

(07-17-2018 09:44 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I don't understand Toledo still being out there. As I read up on them for our bowl game last year I noticed they had a lot of seniors on their lines as well as a great senior RB and one of the best G5 QBs who was drafted. They must have had a heck of a recruiting class.
sincerely,
Rocketman's Daddy

Rockets were pretty banged up by the end of the year. Lost the #1 WR, both starting OG's, and 3 of the 4 top DE's for the season. And to top it off the remaining DE's was suspended for the first half of the Bowl game. This year, the Rockets have added an OT transfer that started 13 games for Florida State, RB and QB transfers from the SEC/Big Ten, and high profile JUCO's. Red shirted some very good players last year. The 2018 Signing Class had two players that were upgraded to 4 stars just prior to signing day.
It also featured an Elite 11 QB Finalist. One of two ESPN 300 players signed by G5 schools. Overall Toledo is a bigger, faster team this year with more depth. If you look over the past 7 seasons, the Rocket Offense hasn't varied much in point production per game with 4 different QB's. Last season was only the 3rd highest scoring avg in the past 5 seasons. Should be greatly improved on Defense in 2018 with the Offense putting 35-40+ points a game.

San Diego State in at #41.

Yep. San Diego State is in at 41. The MWC's average increases, but not enough to change positions. Here's your update.

BIG-12 44.10
SEC 45.43
B1G 47.07
ACC 53.97
PAC-12 56.50

IND 68.30

AAC 76.25
MWC 78.33
MAC 80.62
C-USA 80.71
SBC 92.15

7/17/2018

Includes San Diego State at 41

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/co...story.html

41. San Diego State
42. Ohio
43. Wake Forest
44. Kansas State
45. UCLA
46. North Texas
47. NC State
48. Washington State
49. LA Tech
50. Temple
51. Wyoming
52. Buffalo
53. UAB
54. App State
55. Army
56. MTSU
57. Ole Miss
58. Boston College
59. BYU
60. Northern Illinois
61. Missouri
62. Arizona
63. Miami (Ohio)
64. Arkansas State
65. Maryland
66. Louisville
67. Purdue
68. Houston
69. Kentucky
70. California
71. North Carolina
72. South Florida
73. Texas Tech
74. Minnesota
75. Oregon
76. Pitt
77. Navy
78. Air Force
79. Arizona State
80. Cincinnati
81. UNLV
82. Western Michigan
83. SMU
84. Utah State
85. Eastern Michigan
86. Old Dominion
87. New Mexico State
88. Tennessee
89. Georgia Tech
90. Rutgers
91. Arkansas
92. Indiana
93. Baylor
94. Virginia
95. Southern Miss
96. LA Monroe
97. Akron
98. Western Kentucky
99. South Alabama
100. UConn
101. Colorado State
102. Bowling Green
103. UTSA
104. Georgia State
105. Colorado
106. Vanderbilt
107. Illinois
108. Kansas
109. Syracuse
110. New Mexico
111. Tulsa
112. Oregon State
113. Nevada
114. Tulane
115. Georgia Southern
116. Hawaii
117. Central Michigan
118. Louisiana
119. ECU
120. UMass
121. Ball State
122. FIU
123. Coastal Carolina
124. San Jose State
125. Charlotte
126. Kent State
127. Rice
128. Texas State
129. UTEP

AAC - 10 of 12 - ECU (119), Tulane (114), Tulsa (111), UConn (100), SMU (83), Cincinnati (80), Navy (77), South Florida (72), Houston (68), Temple (50)
CUSA - 12 of 14 - UTEP (129), Rice (127), Charlotte (125), FIU (122), UTSA (103), Western Kentucky (98), Southern Miss (95), Old Dominion (86), MTSU (56), UAB (53), LA Tech (49), UNT (46)
MAC - 11 of 12- Kent State (126), Ball State (121), Central Michigan (117), Bowling Green (102), Akron (97), Eastern Michigan (85), Western Michigan, Miami (Ohio) 63, Northern Illinois (60), Buffalo (52), Ohio (42)
MWC - 10 of 12- San Jose State (124), Hawaii (116), Nevada (113), New Mexico (110), Colorado State (101), Utah State (84), UNLV (81), Air Force (78), Wyoming (51), San Diego State (41)
SBC - 9 of 10 - Texas State (128), Coastal Carolina (123), Louisiana (118), Georgia Southern (115), Georgia State (104), South Alabama (99), LA Monroe (96), Arkansas State (64), App State (54)

ACC - 9 of 14 - Syracuse (109), Virginia (94), Georgia Tech (89), Pitt (76), North Carolina (71), Louisville (66), Boston College (58), NC State (47), Wake Forest (43)
B1G - 6 of 14 - Illinois (107), Indiana (92), Rutgers (90), Minnesota (74), Purdue (67), Maryland (65)
BIG12 - 4 of 10 - Kansas (108), Baylor (93), Texas Tech (73), Kansas State (44)
PAC12 - 8 of 12 - Oregon State (112), Colorado (105), Arizona State (79), Oregon (75), California (70), Arizona (62), Washington State (48), UCLA (45)
SEC - 6 of 14 - Vanderbilt (106), Arkansas (91), Tennessee (88), Kentucky (69), Missouri (61), Ole Miss (57)

IND - 4 of 5 - UMass (120), New Mexico State (87), BYU (59), Army (55)

Here are the G5 teams that have yet to make Uncle Matt’s countdown as of 7/17.

AAC (2) – UCF and Memphis
C-USA (2) – FAU and Marshall
MAC (1)– Toledo
MWC (2) – Boise State and Fresno State
SBC (1) – Troy

I expect to see Fresno State or Troy as the next G5 to make the list.

(07-17-2018 08:07 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  Yep. San Diego State is in at 41. The MWC's average increases, but not enough to change positions. Here's your update.

BIG-12 44.10
SEC 45.43
B1G 47.07
ACC 53.97
PAC-12 56.50

IND 68.30

AAC 76.25
MWC 78.33
MAC 80.62
C-USA 80.71
SBC 92.15

7/17/2018

Includes San Diego State at 41

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/co...story.html

41. San Diego State
42. Ohio
43. Wake Forest
44. Kansas State
45. UCLA
46. North Texas
47. NC State
48. Washington State
49. LA Tech
50. Temple
51. Wyoming
52. Buffalo
53. UAB
54. App State
55. Army
56. MTSU
57. Ole Miss
58. Boston College
59. BYU
60. Northern Illinois
61. Missouri
62. Arizona
63. Miami (Ohio)
64. Arkansas State
65. Maryland
66. Louisville
67. Purdue
68. Houston
69. Kentucky
70. California
71. North Carolina
72. South Florida
73. Texas Tech
74. Minnesota
75. Oregon
76. Pitt
77. Navy
78. Air Force
79. Arizona State
80. Cincinnati
81. UNLV
82. Western Michigan
83. SMU
84. Utah State
85. Eastern Michigan
86. Old Dominion
87. New Mexico State
88. Tennessee
89. Georgia Tech
90. Rutgers
91. Arkansas
92. Indiana
93. Baylor
94. Virginia
95. Southern Miss
96. LA Monroe
97. Akron
98. Western Kentucky
99. South Alabama
100. UConn
101. Colorado State
102. Bowling Green
103. UTSA
104. Georgia State
105. Colorado
106. Vanderbilt
107. Illinois
108. Kansas
109. Syracuse
110. New Mexico
111. Tulsa
112. Oregon State
113. Nevada
114. Tulane
115. Georgia Southern
116. Hawaii
117. Central Michigan
118. Louisiana
119. ECU
120. UMass
121. Ball State
122. FIU
123. Coastal Carolina
124. San Jose State
125. Charlotte
126. Kent State
127. Rice
128. Texas State
129. UTEP

AAC - 10 of 12 - ECU (119), Tulane (114), Tulsa (111), UConn (100), SMU (83), Cincinnati (80), Navy (77), South Florida (72), Houston (68), Temple (50)
CUSA - 12 of 14 - UTEP (129), Rice (127), Charlotte (125), FIU (122), UTSA (103), Western Kentucky (98), Southern Miss (95), Old Dominion (86), MTSU (56), UAB (53), LA Tech (49), UNT (46)
MAC - 11 of 12- Kent State (126), Ball State (121), Central Michigan (117), Bowling Green (102), Akron (97), Eastern Michigan (85), Western Michigan, Miami (Ohio) 63, Northern Illinois (60), Buffalo (52), Ohio (42)
MWC - 10 of 12- San Jose State (124), Hawaii (116), Nevada (113), New Mexico (110), Colorado State (101), Utah State (84), UNLV (81), Air Force (78), Wyoming (51), San Diego State (41)
SBC - 9 of 10 - Texas State (128), Coastal Carolina (123), Louisiana (118), Georgia Southern (115), Georgia State (104), South Alabama (99), LA Monroe (96), Arkansas State (64), App State (54)

ACC - 9 of 14 - Syracuse (109), Virginia (94), Georgia Tech (89), Pitt (76), North Carolina (71), Louisville (66), Boston College (58), NC State (47), Wake Forest (43)
B1G - 6 of 14 - Illinois (107), Indiana (92), Rutgers (90), Minnesota (74), Purdue (67), Maryland (65)
BIG12 - 4 of 10 - Kansas (108), Baylor (93), Texas Tech (73), Kansas State (44)
PAC12 - 8 of 12 - Oregon State (112), Colorado (105), Arizona State (79), Oregon (75), California (70), Arizona (62), Washington State (48), UCLA (45)
SEC - 6 of 14 - Vanderbilt (106), Arkansas (91), Tennessee (88), Kentucky (69), Missouri (61), Ole Miss (57)

IND - 4 of 5 - UMass (120), New Mexico State (87), BYU (59), Army (55)

Here are the G5 teams that have yet to make Uncle Matt’s countdown as of 7/17.

AAC (2) – UCF and Memphis
C-USA (2) – FAU and Marshall
MAC (1)– Toledo
MWC (2) – Boise State and Fresno State
SBC (1) – Troy

I expect to see Fresno State or Troy as the next G5 to make the list.

AAC (2) – UCF and Memphis
C-USA (2) – FAU and Marshall
MAC (1)– Toledo
MWC (2) – Boise State and Fresno State
SBC (1) – Troy

Here’s how I would rank the remaining G5
1 UCF
2 Boise State
3 Troy
4 FAU
5 Fresno State
6 Memphis
7. Toledo
8. Marshall

(07-17-2018 08:22 PM)Artemis Silver Bow Wrote:  Here’s how I would rank the remaining G5
1 UCF
2 Boise State
3 Troy
4 FAU
5 Fresno State
6 Memphis
7. Toledo
8. Marshall

UCF will see a big drop. For whatever reason, people tend to think programs that win 12+ games out of the blue will be just as good with a new coaching staff. WMU certainly wasn't, and I don't expect the new guy to be anywhere near as good as Scott Frost.

FAU has key guys they have to replace, but should still be pretty high on the list with Kiffin at the helm.

Troy is sort of a wildcard right now having to replace Silvers and Chunn. I would put Troy ahead of Toledo and Marshall, not sure about the rest.

Marshall#40 .

Top 40. Casey Kasem would be proud.

(07-18-2018 09:20 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(07-17-2018 08:22 PM)Artemis Silver Bow Wrote:  Here’s how I would rank the remaining G5
1 UCF
2 Boise State
3 Troy
4 FAU
5 Fresno State
6 Memphis
7. Toledo
8. Marshall

UCF will see a big drop. For whatever reason, people tend to think programs that win 12+ games out of the blue will be just as good with a new coaching staff. WMU certainly wasn't, and I don't expect the new guy to be anywhere near as good as Scott Frost.

FAU has key guys they have to replace, but should still be pretty high on the list with Kiffin at the helm.

Troy is sort of a wildcard right now having to replace Silvers and Chunn. I would put Troy ahead of Toledo and Marshall, not sure about the rest.

The reason people are high on UCF is because the team returns so many players from an undefeated team especially on offense which was near unstoppable last season. About the only unknown about the team this year is the coaching staff.

People are high on FAU for a similar reason. The unknown with FAU is that their main losses were on the OL which is such a critical position in football. They have talented replacements but experience matters alot. FAU’s defense should be really, really good.

With Marshall in at 40, C-USA slips a little more securely into the No. 4 position among the G5 conferences. I have not run any numbers, but I now suspect fourth is indeed where C-USA will be when the count down is complete. Here's your update.

AAC 76.17
MWC 78.25
MAC 80.58
C-USA 82.08
SBC 92.10

BIG-12 43.80
SEC 45.14
B1G 46.79
ACC 53.79
PAC-12 56.33

IND 68.20

7/18/2018

Includes Marshall at 40

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/sp...story.html

40. Marshall
41. San Diego State
42. Ohio
43. Wake Forest
44. Kansas State
45. UCLA
46. North Texas
47. NC State
48. Washington State
49. LA Tech
50. Temple
51. Wyoming
52. Buffalo
53. UAB
54. App State
55. Army
56. MTSU
57. Ole Miss
58. Boston College
59. BYU
60. Northern Illinois
61. Missouri
62. Arizona
63. Miami (Ohio)
64. Arkansas State
65. Maryland
66. Louisville
67. Purdue
68. Houston
69. Kentucky
70. California
71. North Carolina
72. South Florida
73. Texas Tech
74. Minnesota
75. Oregon
76. Pitt
77. Navy
78. Air Force
79. Arizona State
80. Cincinnati
81. UNLV
82. Western Michigan
83. SMU
84. Utah State
85. Eastern Michigan
86. Old Dominion
87. New Mexico State
88. Tennessee
89. Georgia Tech
90. Rutgers
91. Arkansas
92. Indiana
93. Baylor
94. Virginia
95. Southern Miss
96. LA Monroe
97. Akron
98. Western Kentucky
99. South Alabama
100. UConn
101. Colorado State
102. Bowling Green
103. UTSA
104. Georgia State
105. Colorado
106. Vanderbilt
107. Illinois
108. Kansas
109. Syracuse
110. New Mexico
111. Tulsa
112. Oregon State
113. Nevada
114. Tulane
115. Georgia Southern
116. Hawaii
117. Central Michigan
118. Louisiana
119. ECU
120. UMass
121. Ball State
122. FIU
123. Coastal Carolina
124. San Jose State
125. Charlotte
126. Kent State
127. Rice
128. Texas State
129. UTEP

AAC - 10 of 12 - ECU (119), Tulane (114), Tulsa (111), UConn (100), SMU (83), Cincinnati (80), Navy (77), South Florida (72), Houston (68), Temple (50)
CUSA - 13 of 14 - UTEP (129), Rice (127), Charlotte (125), FIU (122), UTSA (103), Western Kentucky (98), Southern Miss (95), Old Dominion (86), MTSU (56), UAB (53), LA Tech (49), UNT (46), Marshall (40)
MAC - 11 of 12- Kent State (126), Ball State (121), Central Michigan (117), Bowling Green (102), Akron (97), Eastern Michigan (85), Western Michigan, Miami (Ohio) 63, Northern Illinois (60), Buffalo (52), Ohio (42)
MWC - 10 of 12- San Jose State (124), Hawaii (116), Nevada (113), New Mexico (110), Colorado State (101), Utah State (84), UNLV (81), Air Force (78), Wyoming (51), San Diego State (41)
SBC - 9 of 10 - Texas State (128), Coastal Carolina (123), Louisiana (118), Georgia Southern (115), Georgia State (104), South Alabama (99), LA Monroe (96), Arkansas State (64), App State (54)

ACC - 9 of 14 - Syracuse (109), Virginia (94), Georgia Tech (89), Pitt (76), North Carolina (71), Louisville (66), Boston College (58), NC State (47), Wake Forest (43)
B1G - 6 of 14 - Illinois (107), Indiana (92), Rutgers (90), Minnesota (74), Purdue (67), Maryland (65)
BIG12 - 4 of 10 - Kansas (108), Baylor (93), Texas Tech (73), Kansas State (44)
PAC12 - 8 of 12 - Oregon State (112), Colorado (105), Arizona State (79), Oregon (75), California (70), Arizona (62), Washington State (48), UCLA (45)
SEC - 6 of 14 - Vanderbilt (106), Arkansas (91), Tennessee (88), Kentucky (69), Missouri (61), Ole Miss (57)

IND - 4 of 5 - UMass (120), New Mexico State (87), BYU (59), Army (55)

Here are the G5 teams that have yet to make Uncle Matt’s countdown as of 7/18.

AAC (2) – UCF and Memphis
C-USA (1) – FAU
MAC (1)– Toledo
MWC (2) – Boise State and Fresno State
SBC (1) – Troy

Im surprised the Sentinel has us that high. For what ever reason (Prob 90% UCF grads) they like to take a shot at us. But Marshall does have 18-22 starters back. The 4 starters we lose are QB Chase Litton, TE Ryan Yurchek, DB/CB Rodney Allen and S CJ Reavis.

If 2 of the 3 of K Robert Lefevre, K/P Shane McDonough and K Justin Rohrwasser can fill Karre Vedvik spot as kicker and punter we should be a good special teams unit. And if QB Isiah Green or Alex Thomas can come in this fall and one of them separate from the other and pick up on Tim Cramsey's play book early we shouldn't have a drop off, plus I think both Green and Thomas are more of a duel threat that Litton ever was.

I suspect most of the remaining G5 will fall in the 30 - 39 range. Still a lot of solid P5 teams left hard to see Toledo, Memphis, Troy, etc. getting ranked above most of the remaining P5s.

F UCF

FAU would need to be ranked about 18 spots ahead of Toledo for C-USA to finish ahead of the MAC in the conference average rankings.

(07-18-2018 06:10 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  F UCF

So much love.