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RE: DRose back?
(04-26-2018 08:37 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 03:21 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(04-25-2018 09:18 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(04-24-2018 02:49 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(04-24-2018 02:35 PM)Shooters Wrote:  Rose didn't expect a max obviously; you need to google NBA contracts and see the money that guys not close to his skill level NOW are getting.

Wow. You read some crazy things on this board sometimes. First, DRose publicly said he deserved a max many times during the '16-'17 season. If your position is true, why did Rose sign a 1-year, $2.1M contract last July?

Mike Conley in the 2017 Playoffs

24.7 PPG
7.0 AST
3.3 REB
1.7 STL
48.5% FG%
44.7% 3PT%
27.4 PER

WTH you expect a player of his stature to say: give me a $8M deal for 3 years? He overstated his worth but nobody who FOLLOWS NBA CLOSELY listens to or believes that talk. But arise got superstar respect from refs his all NBA year and after. It will payoff this season come contract time.

Got it Shooters. So Rose's scoring average drops from 18.0 ppg in 16-17 to 8.4 ppg this season. He only plays 25 regular season games because of injury and going AWOL on the Cavs. He gets traded at the deadline and then cut. He shoots 23% from 3 for the year. But because he scores 71 points in a 1st round playoff series loss, Rose will get paid this year come contract time.

Brilliant reasoning. So glad we have someone like you who 'follows NBA closely'. Shooters shoots an air ball.

If you think this playoffs series was about numbers for Rose it shows a lack of knowledge about the NBA. He was 3rd or 4th option most of the time because of his lacking of playing time. Front office people were looking to see where he was in the skills that made him MVP. He showed good explosiveness, a good jumper and was in good shape. They don’t look at stat sheet that says he averaged 14 ppg in 25 mpg. Ask any NBA analyst what teams look for and how they thought Rose did. He helped himself going into next year. Conley had 0 points in playoffs. Should Grizz cut him? They don’t know whether he is even healed properly. See Rose, Penny, Lee, otter stars with bad knees. You missed the point badly.

It wasn’t about 71 points. Do you follow NBA?

Interesting auto-correct.
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RE: DRose back?
(04-26-2018 09:02 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 08:37 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 03:21 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(04-25-2018 09:18 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(04-24-2018 02:49 PM)Tigx Wrote:  Wow. You read some crazy things on this board sometimes. First, DRose publicly said he deserved a max many times during the '16-'17 season. If your position is true, why did Rose sign a 1-year, $2.1M contract last July?

Mike Conley in the 2017 Playoffs

24.7 PPG
7.0 AST
3.3 REB
1.7 STL
48.5% FG%
44.7% 3PT%
27.4 PER

WTH you expect a player of his stature to say: give me a $8M deal for 3 years? He overstated his worth but nobody who FOLLOWS NBA CLOSELY listens to or believes that talk. But arise got superstar respect from refs his all NBA year and after. It will payoff this season come contract time.

Got it Shooters. So Rose's scoring average drops from 18.0 ppg in 16-17 to 8.4 ppg this season. He only plays 25 regular season games because of injury and going AWOL on the Cavs. He gets traded at the deadline and then cut. He shoots 23% from 3 for the year. But because he scores 71 points in a 1st round playoff series loss, Rose will get paid this year come contract time.

Brilliant reasoning. So glad we have someone like you who 'follows NBA closely'. Shooters shoots an air ball.

If you think this playoffs series was about numbers for Rose it shows a lack of knowledge about the NBA. He was 3rd or 4th option most of the time because of his lacking of playing time. Front office people were looking to see where he was in the skills that made him MVP. He showed good explosiveness, a good jumper and was in good shape. They don’t look at stat sheet that says he averaged 14 ppg in 25 mpg. Ask any NBA analyst what teams look for and how they thought Rose did. He helped himself going into next year. Conley had 0 points in playoffs. Should Grizz cut him? They don’t know whether he is even healed properly. See Rose, Penny, Lee, otter stars with bad knees. You missed the point badly.

It wasn’t about 71 points. Do you follow NBA?

Interesting auto-correct.

Apple engineers can do all these amazing things with their devices except make them spell correctly. I think they are having fun at our expense.
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RE: DRose back?
Derrick Rose explosive? I don't think so. He played fairly well but explosive? No. Nor do I think NBA executives are just drooling to sign him up based upon one short playoff series but I guess we will see. I doubt he gets anything other than a very modest one year deal anywhere.
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RE: DRose back?
(04-26-2018 09:31 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 09:02 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 08:37 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 03:21 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(04-25-2018 09:18 PM)Shooters Wrote:  WTH you expect a player of his stature to say: give me a $8M deal for 3 years? He overstated his worth but nobody who FOLLOWS NBA CLOSELY listens to or believes that talk. But arise got superstar respect from refs his all NBA year and after. It will payoff this season come contract time.

Got it Shooters. So Rose's scoring average drops from 18.0 ppg in 16-17 to 8.4 ppg this season. He only plays 25 regular season games because of injury and going AWOL on the Cavs. He gets traded at the deadline and then cut. He shoots 23% from 3 for the year. But because he scores 71 points in a 1st round playoff series loss, Rose will get paid this year come contract time.

Brilliant reasoning. So glad we have someone like you who 'follows NBA closely'. Shooters shoots an air ball.

If you think this playoffs series was about numbers for Rose it shows a lack of knowledge about the NBA. He was 3rd or 4th option most of the time because of his lacking of playing time. Front office people were looking to see where he was in the skills that made him MVP. He showed good explosiveness, a good jumper and was in good shape. They don’t look at stat sheet that says he averaged 14 ppg in 25 mpg. Ask any NBA analyst what teams look for and how they thought Rose did. He helped himself going into next year. Conley had 0 points in playoffs. Should Grizz cut him? They don’t know whether he is even healed properly. See Rose, Penny, Lee, otter stars with bad knees. You missed the point badly.

It wasn’t about 71 points. Do you follow NBA?

Interesting auto-correct.

Apple engineers can do all these amazing things with their devices except make them spell correctly. I think they are having fun at our expense.

I was referring to the otter forum on Bluto's board which I quit awhile back.

Bluto, Hoopdreams, easterwood, chirsd11, poppaslaw, saluki, tg4, btiger, bluebacker, ctg, 3601, idratherrootforrussia aka the dude who tg4 got fired from his job, smokeyonekenobi, and don't count out homefry20, whitey, and bandwagonjumper.

I got banned from homefry20's board and I quit bluto's board.

They both sucked.

Homefry20's board had more mods than members if you separated the groups.

Blutos had two mods.

Beginning to think chrisd11 is one of blutos step sons.
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RE: DRose back?
This is come crazy stuff. My old mid 30s body is probably as explosive as DRose.
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RE: DRose back?
(04-26-2018 09:48 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Derrick Rose explosive? I don't think so. He played fairly well but explosive? No. Nor do I think NBA executives are just drooling to sign him up based upon one short playoff series but I guess we will see. I doubt he gets anything other than a very modest one year deal anywhere. If Minnesota offers him he would do well to stay put.

He was explosive-game analysts said it multiple times. I doubt they are drooling over him either. I think you guys are making an issue here due to me rather than Rose.

He improved his position for next year in that series.

Not mega millions but he won’t be at the $1-2M a year.
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RE: DRose back?
(04-26-2018 10:00 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 09:48 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Derrick Rose explosive? I don't think so. He played fairly well but explosive? No. Nor do I think NBA executives are just drooling to sign him up based upon one short playoff series but I guess we will see. I doubt he gets anything other than a very modest one year deal anywhere. If Minnesota offers him he would do well to stay put.

He was explosive-game analysts said it multiple times. I doubt they are drooling over him either. I think you guys are making an issue here due to me rather than Rose.

He improved his position for next year in that series.

Not mega millions but he won’t be at the $1-2M a year.

Agree with you, my point in the original post was that he had played himself back into the league. Not that he was back to being his old dominate self. After he got cut from the Jazz, this year was such a disaster that I think there was real doubt that there would be any interest in him at all.

But then Thibs came in and rescued him, and then he had a really solid playoff series, outplaying the TWolves starting PG by a large margin.

So, I think it's clear that there will be interest in him next year, even scrubs make big bucks in today's NBA.

At worst, he would get what Tyreke and Rondo got last year, 1 year 3.3 million.
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RE: DRose back?
(04-26-2018 09:57 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 09:31 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 09:02 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 08:37 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 03:21 PM)Tigx Wrote:  Got it Shooters. So Rose's scoring average drops from 18.0 ppg in 16-17 to 8.4 ppg this season. He only plays 25 regular season games because of injury and going AWOL on the Cavs. He gets traded at the deadline and then cut. He shoots 23% from 3 for the year. But because he scores 71 points in a 1st round playoff series loss, Rose will get paid this year come contract time.

Brilliant reasoning. So glad we have someone like you who 'follows NBA closely'. Shooters shoots an air ball.

If you think this playoffs series was about numbers for Rose it shows a lack of knowledge about the NBA. He was 3rd or 4th option most of the time because of his lacking of playing time. Front office people were looking to see where he was in the skills that made him MVP. He showed good explosiveness, a good jumper and was in good shape. They don’t look at stat sheet that says he averaged 14 ppg in 25 mpg. Ask any NBA analyst what teams look for and how they thought Rose did. He helped himself going into next year. Conley had 0 points in playoffs. Should Grizz cut him? They don’t know whether he is even healed properly. See Rose, Penny, Lee, otter stars with bad knees. You missed the point badly.

It wasn’t about 71 points. Do you follow NBA?

Interesting auto-correct.

Apple engineers can do all these amazing things with their devices except make them spell correctly. I think they are having fun at our expense.

I was referring to the otter forum on Bluto's board which I quit awhile back.

Bluto, Hoopdreams, easterwood, chirsd11, poppaslaw, saluki, tg4, btiger, bluebacker, ctg, 3601, idratherrootforrussia aka the dude who tg4 got fired from his job, smokeyonekenobi, and don't count out homefry20, whitey, and bandwagonjumper.

I got banned from homefry20's board and I quit bluto's board.

They both sucked.

Homefry20's board had more mods than members if you separated the groups.

Blutos had two mods.

Beginning to think chrisd11 is one of blutos step sons.

Either you are joking or you need to seek counseling
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RE: DRose back?
(04-27-2018 12:39 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 09:57 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 09:31 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 09:02 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 08:37 PM)Shooters Wrote:  If you think this playoffs series was about numbers for Rose it shows a lack of knowledge about the NBA. He was 3rd or 4th option most of the time because of his lacking of playing time. Front office people were looking to see where he was in the skills that made him MVP. He showed good explosiveness, a good jumper and was in good shape. They don’t look at stat sheet that says he averaged 14 ppg in 25 mpg. Ask any NBA analyst what teams look for and how they thought Rose did. He helped himself going into next year. Conley had 0 points in playoffs. Should Grizz cut him? They don’t know whether he is even healed properly. See Rose, Penny, Lee, otter stars with bad knees. You missed the point badly.

It wasn’t about 71 points. Do you follow NBA?

Interesting auto-correct.

Apple engineers can do all these amazing things with their devices except make them spell correctly. I think they are having fun at our expense.

I was referring to the otter forum on Bluto's board which I quit awhile back.

Bluto, Hoopdreams, easterwood, chirsd11, poppaslaw, saluki, tg4, btiger, bluebacker, ctg, 3601, idratherrootforrussia aka the dude who tg4 got fired from his job, smokeyonekenobi, and don't count out homefry20, whitey, and bandwagonjumper.

I got banned from homefry20's board and I quit bluto's board.

They both sucked.

Homefry20's board had more mods than members if you separated the groups.

Blutos had two mods.

Beginning to think chrisd11 is one of blutos step sons.

Either you are joking or you need to seek counseling

The joke part is two fold.

One is that dude is on blutos board(which I quit) which has a secret forum inside of a secret forum called the Otter Forum.

The underlined part is true.

The second is that chrisd11 is blutos step son.

When in actuality, he is almost as old as bluto.

All the rest is true.

Like Homer Simpson says "It's funny because it's true."
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RE: DRose back?
(04-27-2018 01:00 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(04-27-2018 12:39 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 09:57 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 09:31 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 09:02 PM)jamammy Wrote:  Interesting auto-correct.

Apple engineers can do all these amazing things with their devices except make them spell correctly. I think they are having fun at our expense.

I was referring to the otter forum on Bluto's board which I quit awhile back.

Bluto, Hoopdreams, easterwood, chirsd11, poppaslaw, saluki, tg4, btiger, bluebacker, ctg, 3601, idratherrootforrussia aka the dude who tg4 got fired from his job, smokeyonekenobi, and don't count out homefry20, whitey, and bandwagonjumper.

I got banned from homefry20's board and I quit bluto's board.

They both sucked.

Homefry20's board had more mods than members if you separated the groups.

Blutos had two mods.

Beginning to think chrisd11 is one of blutos step sons.

Either you are joking or you need to seek counseling

The joke part is two fold.

One is that dude is on blutos board(which I quit) which has a secret forum inside of a secret forum called the Otter Forum.

The underlined part is true.

The second is that chrisd11 is blutos step son.

When in actuality, he is almost as old as bluto.

All the rest is true.

Like Homer Simpson says "It's funny because it's true."

You have confirmed it...

https://www.yellowpages.com/memphis-tn/m...h-services
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I hope the Dude doesn't get injured, u know he's injury prone
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(04-27-2018 02:03 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(04-27-2018 01:00 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(04-27-2018 12:39 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 09:57 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 09:31 PM)Shooters Wrote:  Apple engineers can do all these amazing things with their devices except make them spell correctly. I think they are having fun at our expense.

I was referring to the otter forum on Bluto's board which I quit awhile back.

Bluto, Hoopdreams, easterwood, chirsd11, poppaslaw, saluki, tg4, btiger, bluebacker, ctg, 3601, idratherrootforrussia aka the dude who tg4 got fired from his job, smokeyonekenobi, and don't count out homefry20, whitey, and bandwagonjumper.

I got banned from homefry20's board and I quit bluto's board.

They both sucked.

Homefry20's board had more mods than members if you separated the groups.

Blutos had two mods.

Beginning to think chrisd11 is one of blutos step sons.

Either you are joking or you need to seek counseling

The joke part is two fold.

One is that dude is on blutos board(which I quit) which has a secret forum inside of a secret forum called the Otter Forum.

The underlined part is true.

The second is that chrisd11 is blutos step son.

When in actuality, he is almost as old as bluto.

All the rest is true.

Like Homer Simpson says "It's funny because it's true."

You have confirmed it...

https://www.yellowpages.com/memphis-tn/m...h-services

Aww, puddin', bless your heart.

Like I said, I quit because it was too weird to me.

Both homefry's board and bluto's board are just places to run and whisper and giggle and talk bad about posters on this board.

Just seems creepy.

And then the secret forum within a secret forum where not all members of the main forum are allowed in the second forum is just wild.

Multiple mods for ten people boards.

I can get you the address of both so you can go and sign up, if you aren't already on one.

Let me know.
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(04-27-2018 08:25 AM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 10:00 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 09:48 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Derrick Rose explosive? I don't think so. He played fairly well but explosive? No. Nor do I think NBA executives are just drooling to sign him up based upon one short playoff series but I guess we will see. I doubt he gets anything other than a very modest one year deal anywhere. If Minnesota offers him he would do well to stay put.

He was explosive-game analysts said it multiple times. I doubt they are drooling over him either. I think you guys are making an issue here due to me rather than Rose.

He improved his position for next year in that series.

Not mega millions but he won’t be at the $1-2M a year.

Agree with you, my point in the original post was that he had played himself back into the league. Not that he was back to being his old dominate self. After he got cut from the Jazz, this year was such a disaster that I think there was real doubt that there would be any interest in him at all.

But then Thibs came in and rescued him, and then he had a really solid playoff series, outplaying the TWolves starting PG by a large margin.

So, I think it's clear that there will be interest in him next year, even scrubs make big bucks in today's NBA.

At worst, he would get what Tyreke and Rondo got last year, 1 year 3.3 million.

Google NBA salaries and come back and look at guys getting 1 year 3.3M. it won't be Rose. He was hurt and negotiating last year. Former Grizz player Vasquez making $4.4M along with Bender of Suns. There was new cap put in place before last years contracts. If you are trying to say players are as good as their contract, you are dead wrong: Tarik Black making $6M a year (plays 2 minutes of Houston's last playoff series-possibly worst contract in NBA) and Rodney Hood making $1.1M. A lot of variables in contracts and you keep bring up one Rose had to negotiate hurt with NO leverage. He has leverage and his salary will be closer to Black's than Tyreke's this year.
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(04-28-2018 11:01 AM)jamammy Wrote:  
(04-27-2018 02:03 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(04-27-2018 01:00 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(04-27-2018 12:39 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(04-26-2018 09:57 PM)jamammy Wrote:  I was referring to the otter forum on Bluto's board which I quit awhile back.

Bluto, Hoopdreams, easterwood, chirsd11, poppaslaw, saluki, tg4, btiger, bluebacker, ctg, 3601, idratherrootforrussia aka the dude who tg4 got fired from his job, smokeyonekenobi, and don't count out homefry20, whitey, and bandwagonjumper.

I got banned from homefry20's board and I quit bluto's board.

They both sucked.

Homefry20's board had more mods than members if you separated the groups.

Blutos had two mods.

Beginning to think chrisd11 is one of blutos step sons.

Either you are joking or you need to seek counseling

The joke part is two fold.

One is that dude is on blutos board(which I quit) which has a secret forum inside of a secret forum called the Otter Forum.

The underlined part is true.

The second is that chrisd11 is blutos step son.

When in actuality, he is almost as old as bluto.

All the rest is true.

Like Homer Simpson says "It's funny because it's true."

You have confirmed it...

https://www.yellowpages.com/memphis-tn/m...h-services

Aww, puddin', bless your heart.

Like I said, I quit because it was too weird to me.

Both homefry's board and bluto's board are just places to run and whisper and giggle and talk bad about posters on this board.

Just seems creepy.

And then the secret forum within a secret forum where not all members of the main forum are allowed in the second forum is just wild.

Multiple mods for ten people boards.

I can get you the address of both so you can go and sign up, if you aren't already on one.

Let me know.

You just don't get it
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(04-30-2018 03:18 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(04-28-2018 11:01 AM)jamammy Wrote:  
(04-27-2018 02:03 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(04-27-2018 01:00 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(04-27-2018 12:39 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Either you are joking or you need to seek counseling

The joke part is two fold.

One is that dude is on blutos board(which I quit) which has a secret forum inside of a secret forum called the Otter Forum.

The underlined part is true.

The second is that chrisd11 is blutos step son.

When in actuality, he is almost as old as bluto.

All the rest is true.

Like Homer Simpson says "It's funny because it's true."

You have confirmed it...

https://www.yellowpages.com/memphis-tn/m...h-services

Aww, puddin', bless your heart.

Like I said, I quit because it was too weird to me.

Both homefry's board and bluto's board are just places to run and whisper and giggle and talk bad about posters on this board.

Just seems creepy.

And then the secret forum within a secret forum where not all members of the main forum are allowed in the second forum is just wild.

Multiple mods for ten people boards.

I can get you the address of both so you can go and sign up, if you aren't already on one.

Let me know.

You just don't get it

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If “the joke” takes that long to explain, it didn’t work.
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(04-30-2018 09:43 PM)Shooters Wrote:  If “the joke” takes that long to explain, it didn’t work.


I got a dumb joke for you ...

Go look in the mirror.

Bwahahahahaha.
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RE: DRose back?
Man all these secret boards. Did you have a board within a board when you had one? A thread within a thread?
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RE: DRose back?
(04-30-2018 10:16 PM)Bsquared-2 Wrote:  Man all these secret boards. Did you have a board within a board when you had one? A thread within a thread?

No, I was cool.
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RE: DRose back?
(04-30-2018 09:51 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(04-30-2018 09:43 PM)Shooters Wrote:  If “the joke” takes that long to explain, it didn’t work.


I got a dumb joke for you ...

Go look in the mirror.

Bwahahahahaha.

That was your mama you saw in the mirror little man.
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