Michigan first to release.

They will get $51.1 million in revenue sharing from big ten this year.
And that is expected to increase in a few years when new tv deal is negotiated.

Why should jmu chase after that like g5 schools are doing? You can’t. Game is over. P5 have won and will continue to widen the gap.

Dukeman2 will run some fake numbers by us later that we can easily verify as false via a simple google search. Don't worry.

Slightly off topic, but interesting that Comcast-Xfinity recently announced it will be removing Big 10+4 Network from outside the Big 10+4 footprint of states. I am unclear how, if at all, that may affect their TV revenue model as I believe the Big 10+4 was/is receiving $$$ per TV household/account.

http://www.philly.com/philly/business/co...80417.html

JFC, what exactly is a person getting anymore for subscribing to more channels? They offer a sports package but keep taking channels away without lowering the price. THIS IS WHY YOU'RE BLEEDING CUSTOMERS.

And better streaming alternatives. DirecTV Now, fubo, Hulu, PS Vue, YouTubeTV all offer Big 10 and Comcast is dropping it. Smart move, guys!

JMU – highest student fees in the country http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

James Madison FBS Athletics Feasibility Study:

• “the financial data indicates that the athletics generated revenue will grow at a larger percentage than expense with a move to an FBS conference” (Page VII-50)
• “this will decrease the reliance on student fees” (Page VII – 50)

Appalachian State Final Report of the Athletics Feasibility Committee:

• “Data shows that FBS athletic departments use a substantially smaller percentage of their total spending from student fees than those at FCS level”
• “ A recent study shows that student fees as a source for athletics is 72 percent for FCS and 20% for FBS””
• “the committee believes that the best opportunity for success is in a conference of public universities that share similar missions and support for athletics”
• “according to the committees analysis, ASU athletic will have to raise its yearly budget by about $6 million; however, the committee concluded that a move to FBS will open new revenue streams that will cover the costs”
NCAA payouts for bowls and basketball tournament shares were mentioned as well as increased payouts from guarantee games

January 2018

ODU record athletic fundraising in 2017 – “reducing student fees” and “nationally prominent athletics”

https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/o...22cec.html

http://www.odusports.com/ViewArticle.dbm...=211692851

ODU finances “very good” per this article.

(04-20-2018 07:24 AM)Potomac Wrote:  Dukeman2 will run some fake numbers by us later that we can easily verify as false via a simple google search. Don't worry.

soooooooooooooooooo predictable

(04-20-2018 02:01 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 07:24 AM)Potomac Wrote:  Dukeman2 will run some fake numbers by us later that we can easily verify as false via a simple google search. Don't worry.

soooooooooooooooooo predictable

He's stepping his bot game up and providing some sources!

Not thinking we get into Big Ten, ACC, etc.

But would like to be in a league where we could regularly play Marshall, ASU, ODU, ECU, with an occasional home game against a NC State type team.

But that’s me....

(04-20-2018 03:21 PM)Dukester Wrote:  Not thinking we get into Big Ten, ACC, etc.

But would like to be in a league where we could regularly play Marshall, ASU, ODU, ECU, with an occasional home game against a NC State type team.

But that’s me....

Nope.

Not just you. Right there with you.

There’s an excellent mid-Atlantic-ish conference right there for the making, I’d drag UDel and maybe even Towson to help round things out. I like Stony brook and Albany or even Maine perhaps, for a change of scenery.

Great for fans, better for budgets and nice to have a “bus” league.

Wonder if folks will ever wise up...

(04-21-2018 06:59 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 03:21 PM)Dukester Wrote:  Not thinking we get into Big Ten, ACC, etc.

But would like to be in a league where we could regularly play Marshall, ASU, ODU, ECU, with an occasional home game against a NC State type team.

But that’s me....

Nope.

Not just you. Right there with you.

There’s an excellent mid-Atlantic-ish conference right there for the making, I’d drag UDel and maybe even Towson to help round things out. I like Stony brook and Albany or even Maine perhaps, for a change of scenery.

Great for fans, better for budgets and nice to have a “bus” league.

Wonder if folks will ever wise up...

JMU would leave the CAA tomorrow if the teams Dukester suggested would form a league with them. The problem is not JMU it’s the other schools. I think App and ODU would get on board too. ECU and Marshall fans think that league is a step down when in reality, the perceived step down would lead to a step forward as the league suggested by Dukester would garner far more regional interest than where ECU and Marshall play now.

A group of strong ADs should be able to make Dukester’s league happen minus ECU. Their heads are in the clouds. They won’t leave the AAC. UD would be a good add along with Stony but Towson and Maine need to be left behind. Charlotte as rival for App and maybe Albany for Stony.

(04-20-2018 03:21 PM)Dukester Wrote:  Not thinking we get into Big Ten, ACC, etc.

But would like to be in a league where we could regularly play Marshall, ASU, ODU, ECU, with an occasional home game against a NC State type team.

But that’s me....

Exactly.

Nobody on this board including Dukeman# thinks JMU could or should have BIG10 revenue aspirations.

The Harrisonburg bubble dwellers joke about Dukeman predictability, the Harrisonburg bubble dwellers are as predictable.

You gotta dream & never settle for the status quo

Maybe JMU can have a Rockingham County Basketball Tournament in the United Bank Center to kick off each basketball season; Eastern Mennonite, Bridgewater, Shenandoah U, Roanoke, Hampton Sydney, Lynchburg College, Longwood, Radford and JMU.

(04-21-2018 08:13 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(04-21-2018 06:59 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 03:21 PM)Dukester Wrote:  Not thinking we get into Big Ten, ACC, etc.

But would like to be in a league where we could regularly play Marshall, ASU, ODU, ECU, with an occasional home game against a NC State type team.

But that’s me....

Nope.

Not just you. Right there with you.

There’s an excellent mid-Atlantic-ish conference right there for the making, I’d drag UDel and maybe even Towson to help round things out. I like Stony brook and Albany or even Maine perhaps, for a change of scenery.

Great for fans, better for budgets and nice to have a “bus” league.

Wonder if folks will ever wise up...

JMU would leave the CAA tomorrow if the teams Dukester suggested would form a league with them. The problem is not JMU it’s the other schools. I think App and ODU would get on board too. ECU and Marshall fans think that league is a step down when in reality, the perceived step down would lead to a step forward as the league suggested by Dukester would garner far more regional interest than where ECU and Marshall play now.

A group of strong ADs should be able to make Dukester’s league happen minus ECU. Their heads are in the clouds. They won’t leave the AAC. UD would be a good add along with Stony but Towson and Maine need to be left behind. Charlotte as rival for App and maybe Albany for Stony.

I don't believe JMU would leave the CAA. Leaving the CAA for the PERFECT conference is more of "it's not if, it is when" and "free beer tomorrow."

Do you mean like Jeff Bourne? Is Jeff Bourne the strong AD leading ADs from other schools or are we waiting for a strong AD to call Godwin Hall? If he is, there are a lot of Dukes that would love to hear about it (wink-wink)

The best we've have is Bourne/JMU may not turn down a phone call from a strong AD trying to make a regional G5 possible.
Bourne leading the way

(04-22-2018 12:07 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(04-21-2018 08:13 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(04-21-2018 06:59 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 03:21 PM)Dukester Wrote:  Not thinking we get into Big Ten, ACC, etc.

But would like to be in a league where we could regularly play Marshall, ASU, ODU, ECU, with an occasional home game against a NC State type team.

But that’s me....

Nope.

Not just you. Right there with you.

There’s an excellent mid-Atlantic-ish conference right there for the making, I’d drag UDel and maybe even Towson to help round things out. I like Stony brook and Albany or even Maine perhaps, for a change of scenery.

Great for fans, better for budgets and nice to have a “bus” league.

Wonder if folks will ever wise up...

JMU would leave the CAA tomorrow if the teams Dukester suggested would form a league with them. The problem is not JMU it’s the other schools. I think App and ODU would get on board too. ECU and Marshall fans think that league is a step down when in reality, the perceived step down would lead to a step forward as the league suggested by Dukester would garner far more regional interest than where ECU and Marshall play now.

A group of strong ADs should be able to make Dukester’s league happen minus ECU. Their heads are in the clouds. They won’t leave the AAC. UD would be a good add along with Stony but Towson and Maine need to be left behind. Charlotte as rival for App and maybe Albany for Stony.

I don't believe JMU would leave the CAA. Leaving the CAA for the PERFECT conference is more of "it's not if, it is when" and "free beer tomorrow."

Do you mean like Jeff Bourne? Is Jeff Bourne the strong AD leading ADs from other schools or are we waiting for a strong AD to call Godwin Hall? If he is, there are a lot of Dukes that would love to hear about it (wink-wink)

The best we've have is Bourne/JMU may not turn down a phone call from a strong AD trying to make a regional G5 possible.
Bourne leading the way

All you have said is extreme. I am not sure how anyone could take such a far out position. If you honestly believe JMU is married to the CAA for life, then having this discussion is really a waste of time for you.

In speaking with a friend who is close to the App program, he has confirmed there are conversations happening between the schools. The hurdle is the politics and donors at other schools. He believes App would join ODU, JMU, Charlotte and Marshall in a heartbeat. The old administration is gone from Charlotte so maybe the new guard won’t block Apps inclusion into CUSA or whatever it is called the next time around. Supposedly Marshall blocked them too along with JMU. All rumor of course.

(04-22-2018 02:45 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 12:07 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(04-21-2018 08:13 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(04-21-2018 06:59 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 03:21 PM)Dukester Wrote:  Not thinking we get into Big Ten, ACC, etc.

But would like to be in a league where we could regularly play Marshall, ASU, ODU, ECU, with an occasional home game against a NC State type team.

But that’s me....

Nope.

Not just you. Right there with you.

There’s an excellent mid-Atlantic-ish conference right there for the making, I’d drag UDel and maybe even Towson to help round things out. I like Stony brook and Albany or even Maine perhaps, for a change of scenery.

Great for fans, better for budgets and nice to have a “bus” league.

Wonder if folks will ever wise up...

JMU would leave the CAA tomorrow if the teams Dukester suggested would form a league with them. The problem is not JMU it’s the other schools. I think App and ODU would get on board too. ECU and Marshall fans think that league is a step down when in reality, the perceived step down would lead to a step forward as the league suggested by Dukester would garner far more regional interest than where ECU and Marshall play now.

A group of strong ADs should be able to make Dukester’s league happen minus ECU. Their heads are in the clouds. They won’t leave the AAC. UD would be a good add along with Stony but Towson and Maine need to be left behind. Charlotte as rival for App and maybe Albany for Stony.

I don't believe JMU would leave the CAA. Leaving the CAA for the PERFECT conference is more of "it's not if, it is when" and "free beer tomorrow."

Do you mean like Jeff Bourne? Is Jeff Bourne the strong AD leading ADs from other schools or are we waiting for a strong AD to call Godwin Hall? If he is, there are a lot of Dukes that would love to hear about it (wink-wink)

The best we've have is Bourne/JMU may not turn down a phone call from a strong AD trying to make a regional G5 possible.
Bourne leading the way

All you have said is extreme. I am not sure how anyone could take such a far out position. If you honestly believe JMU is married to the CAA for life, then having this discussion is really a waste of time for you.

In speaking with a friend who is close to the App program, he has confirmed there are conversations happening between the schools. The hurdle is the politics and donors at other schools. He believes App would join ODU, JMU, Charlotte and Marshall in a heartbeat. The old administration is gone from Charlotte so maybe the new guard won’t block Apps inclusion into CUSA or whatever it is called the next time around. Supposedly Marshall blocked them too along with JMU. All rumor of course.

Well, for sure JMU has/will have the facilities that would allow a strong case for a seat in a Mid-Atlantic regional G5 conference. JMU has newish facilities for everything. For this reason, standing on the sidelines of a G5 shift would be hard to explain.

I don't know if App to CUSA would help or hurt JMU chances of getting a CUSA invite or if JMU would accept. Who knows what JMU wants or will do? I wish JMU would be transparent. Some say JMU has been transparent, I do not find this to be the case. Rumors of winks and whispers to Harrisonburg residents at Spotswood CC golf events don't count.

(04-21-2018 08:13 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(04-21-2018 06:59 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 03:21 PM)Dukester Wrote:  Not thinking we get into Big Ten, ACC, etc.

But would like to be in a league where we could regularly play Marshall, ASU, ODU, ECU, with an occasional home game against a NC State type team.

But that’s me....

Nope.

Not just you. Right there with you.

There’s an excellent mid-Atlantic-ish conference right there for the making, I’d drag UDel and maybe even Towson to help round things out. I like Stony brook and Albany or even Maine perhaps, for a change of scenery.

Great for fans, better for budgets and nice to have a “bus” league.

Wonder if folks will ever wise up...

JMU would leave the CAA tomorrow if the teams Dukester suggested would form a league with them. The problem is not JMU it’s the other schools. I think App and ODU would get on board too. ECU and Marshall fans think that league is a step down when in reality, the perceived step down would lead to a step forward as the league suggested by Dukester would garner far more regional interest than where ECU and Marshall play now.

A group of strong ADs should be able to make Dukester’s league happen minus ECU. Their heads are in the clouds. They won’t leave the AAC. UD would be a good add along with Stony but Towson and Maine need to be left behind. Charlotte as rival for App and maybe Albany for Stony.

Didn’t think of Charlotte, but sure. Fine.

Just PLEASE! Nothing to do with fake gsu and NotLanta.

We have enough 2200 fan bases in this league as it is.

There’s a very nice, highly competitive and fun league to be had here, just wonder if the AD’s will ever wise up?

Terry? Where are you?