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Disney - FOX deal likely to consummate by "mid-2019"
21st Century FOX's President held a "town hall meeting" with FOX employees to update them on the Disney deal, and said the deal would likely be completed by spring-summer of 2019, which is consistent with estimates when it was announced.

He also indicated that the FOX name would be retained, that the remaining FOX companies, including the FOX Broadcasting Company, FOX News, FS1/FS2, and FOX local stations (but not the FX network, which goes to Disney), would be under an umbrella called "FOX".

No indication that the deal has suffered any road-blocks:

http://deadline.com/2018/04/disney-fox-m...202363025/
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(04-13-2018 06:36 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  21st Century FOX's President held a "town hall meeting" with FOX employees to update them on the Disney deal, and said the deal would likely be completed by spring-summer of 2019, which is consistent with estimates when it was announced.

Just in time for the launch of the ACC Network. Cool.
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Am I reading correctly that none of Fox' sports broadcasting will move to Disney? If so, does this affect the sports landscape in any significant way?
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(04-13-2018 07:32 AM)ken d Wrote:  Am I reading correctly that none of Fox' sports broadcasting will move to Disney? If so, does this affect the sports landscape in any significant way?

It was always known that the FS1/2 was staying with Fox. I believe Disney is only acquiring the regional fox sports networks.
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(04-13-2018 07:35 AM)otown Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:32 AM)ken d Wrote:  Am I reading correctly that none of Fox' sports broadcasting will move to Disney? If so, does this affect the sports landscape in any significant way?

It was always known that the FS1/2 was staying with Fox. I believe Disney is only acquiring the regional fox sports networks.

Yes, those are the sports properties Disney is getting. In my area, I get three of them, but so far their programming in my area has been useless - replays of games from three days ago and the like. We get New Orleans Pelicans games from them and that's about it. But apparently, they are not a trivial part of the deal, Variety says they are about 40% of the total value.

Also, FOX's stake in the BTN is staying with the rump FOX company as well.
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(04-13-2018 07:32 AM)ken d Wrote:  Am I reading correctly that none of Fox' sports broadcasting will move to Disney? If so, does this affect the sports landscape in any significant way?

Disney isn't getting any of the national FOX sports networks, but they are getting the regional networks, which are likely to have a big impact on the sports landscape. From Sporting News:

"Disney will acquire all 22 Fox Sports Regional Networks that carry local coverage of no fewer than 44 MLB, NBA and NHL teams across the U.S.

That doesn't include the RSNs' carriage of college football and basketball, plus the WNBA and MLS."

Analysts say that of the $52B Disney is paying for the FOX properties, about $22B is for those regional sports networks. They carry a LOT of content, and could help bolster ESPN content and streaming moves.
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(04-13-2018 07:49 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:32 AM)ken d Wrote:  Am I reading correctly that none of Fox' sports broadcasting will move to Disney? If so, does this affect the sports landscape in any significant way?

Very. From Sporting News:

"Disney will acquire all 22 Fox Sports Regional Networks that carry local coverage of no fewer than 44 MLB, NBA and NHL teams across the U.S.

That doesn't include the RSNs' carriage of college football and basketball, plus the WNBA and MLS."

Analysts say that of the $52B Disney is paying for the FOX properties, about $22B is for those regional sports networks. They carry a LOT of content, and could help bolster ESPN content and streaming moves.

So, potentially Fox Sports would free up assets now devoted to pro sports, which they could now use to expand coverage of college sports. Would that be a correct reading of this?
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(04-13-2018 07:56 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:49 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:32 AM)ken d Wrote:  Am I reading correctly that none of Fox' sports broadcasting will move to Disney? If so, does this affect the sports landscape in any significant way?

Very. From Sporting News:

"Disney will acquire all 22 Fox Sports Regional Networks that carry local coverage of no fewer than 44 MLB, NBA and NHL teams across the U.S.

That doesn't include the RSNs' carriage of college football and basketball, plus the WNBA and MLS."

Analysts say that of the $52B Disney is paying for the FOX properties, about $22B is for those regional sports networks. They carry a LOT of content, and could help bolster ESPN content and streaming moves.

So, potentially Fox Sports would free up assets now devoted to pro sports, which they could now use to expand coverage of college sports. Would that be a correct reading of this?

I just don't know enough about how the FOX regional and national networks are structured.

FOX did just buy Thursday Night Football for 5 years, which means they will now be carrying 40% of all NFL content, so they aren't taking any steps back with them. But yes, it stands to reason that the new FOX national TV network will have a lot of flexibility in terms of acquiring sports content, including collegiate.
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RE: Disney - FOX deal likely to consummate by "mid-2019"
(04-13-2018 07:56 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:49 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:32 AM)ken d Wrote:  Am I reading correctly that none of Fox' sports broadcasting will move to Disney? If so, does this affect the sports landscape in any significant way?

Very. From Sporting News:

"Disney will acquire all 22 Fox Sports Regional Networks that carry local coverage of no fewer than 44 MLB, NBA and NHL teams across the U.S.

That doesn't include the RSNs' carriage of college football and basketball, plus the WNBA and MLS."

Analysts say that of the $52B Disney is paying for the FOX properties, about $22B is for those regional sports networks. They carry a LOT of content, and could help bolster ESPN content and streaming moves.

So, potentially Fox Sports would free up assets now devoted to pro sports, which they could now use to expand coverage of college sports. Would that be a correct reading of this?

FOX, FS1 and FS2 contracts are different than those of the regionals. This doesn't free up any space on those networks.

What it does it bolster ESPN's new app. All those RSN streaming rights are going to go to that app and a lot of the ESPN3 games will get moved to those networks.
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RE: Disney - FOX deal likely to consummate by "mid-2019"
(04-13-2018 08:54 AM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:56 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:49 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:32 AM)ken d Wrote:  Am I reading correctly that none of Fox' sports broadcasting will move to Disney? If so, does this affect the sports landscape in any significant way?

Very. From Sporting News:

"Disney will acquire all 22 Fox Sports Regional Networks that carry local coverage of no fewer than 44 MLB, NBA and NHL teams across the U.S.

That doesn't include the RSNs' carriage of college football and basketball, plus the WNBA and MLS."

Analysts say that of the $52B Disney is paying for the FOX properties, about $22B is for those regional sports networks. They carry a LOT of content, and could help bolster ESPN content and streaming moves.

So, potentially Fox Sports would free up assets now devoted to pro sports, which they could now use to expand coverage of college sports. Would that be a correct reading of this?

FOX, FS1 and FS2 contracts are different than those of the regionals. This doesn't free up any space on those networks.

What it does it bolster ESPN's new app. All those RSN streaming rights are going to go to that app and a lot of the ESPN3 games will get moved to those networks.

What it frees up most for Fox, it seems to me, is money with which to bid for more desirable college properties than they now have on FS1 and FS2.
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RE: Disney - FOX deal likely to consummate by "mid-2019"
(04-13-2018 08:54 AM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:56 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:49 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:32 AM)ken d Wrote:  Am I reading correctly that none of Fox' sports broadcasting will move to Disney? If so, does this affect the sports landscape in any significant way?

Very. From Sporting News:

"Disney will acquire all 22 Fox Sports Regional Networks that carry local coverage of no fewer than 44 MLB, NBA and NHL teams across the U.S.

That doesn't include the RSNs' carriage of college football and basketball, plus the WNBA and MLS."

Analysts say that of the $52B Disney is paying for the FOX properties, about $22B is for those regional sports networks. They carry a LOT of content, and could help bolster ESPN content and streaming moves.

So, potentially Fox Sports would free up assets now devoted to pro sports, which they could now use to expand coverage of college sports. Would that be a correct reading of this?

FOX, FS1 and FS2 contracts are different than those of the regionals. This doesn't free up any space on those networks.

What it does it bolster ESPN's new app. All those RSN streaming rights are going to go to that app and a lot of the ESPN3 games will get moved to those networks.

Those FOX Regionals do deals with college sports. For instance, FOX SW carried a number of lower tier Big12 games. I wonder if those 3rd tier rights stay with those regional networks or remain with FOX.
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(04-13-2018 09:05 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 08:54 AM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:56 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:49 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:32 AM)ken d Wrote:  Am I reading correctly that none of Fox' sports broadcasting will move to Disney? If so, does this affect the sports landscape in any significant way?

Very. From Sporting News:

"Disney will acquire all 22 Fox Sports Regional Networks that carry local coverage of no fewer than 44 MLB, NBA and NHL teams across the U.S.

That doesn't include the RSNs' carriage of college football and basketball, plus the WNBA and MLS."

Analysts say that of the $52B Disney is paying for the FOX properties, about $22B is for those regional sports networks. They carry a LOT of content, and could help bolster ESPN content and streaming moves.

So, potentially Fox Sports would free up assets now devoted to pro sports, which they could now use to expand coverage of college sports. Would that be a correct reading of this?

FOX, FS1 and FS2 contracts are different than those of the regionals. This doesn't free up any space on those networks.

What it does it bolster ESPN's new app. All those RSN streaming rights are going to go to that app and a lot of the ESPN3 games will get moved to those networks.

Those FOX Regionals do deals with college sports. For instance, FOX SW carried a number of lower tier Big12 games. I wonder if those 3rd tier rights stay with those regional networks or remain with FOX.

I'd imagine it goes to Disney...unless negotiated.
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(04-13-2018 09:55 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 09:05 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 08:54 AM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:56 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:49 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Very. From Sporting News:

"Disney will acquire all 22 Fox Sports Regional Networks that carry local coverage of no fewer than 44 MLB, NBA and NHL teams across the U.S.

That doesn't include the RSNs' carriage of college football and basketball, plus the WNBA and MLS."

Analysts say that of the $52B Disney is paying for the FOX properties, about $22B is for those regional sports networks. They carry a LOT of content, and could help bolster ESPN content and streaming moves.

So, potentially Fox Sports would free up assets now devoted to pro sports, which they could now use to expand coverage of college sports. Would that be a correct reading of this?

FOX, FS1 and FS2 contracts are different than those of the regionals. This doesn't free up any space on those networks.

What it does it bolster ESPN's new app. All those RSN streaming rights are going to go to that app and a lot of the ESPN3 games will get moved to those networks.

Those FOX Regionals do deals with college sports. For instance, FOX SW carried a number of lower tier Big12 games. I wonder if those 3rd tier rights stay with those regional networks or remain with FOX.

I'd imagine it goes to Disney...unless negotiated.

Schools whose logos are featured on the website that lists 18 Fox RSN's are:

B1G....Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan St, Wisconsin, Minnesota
B12....Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Kansas, Kansas St
PAC....USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona St
SEC....Florida, Tennessee, Missouri
ACC...Florida St, Miami
BE.....Xavier, Marquette
AAC...Cincinnati
MWC..San Diego St
A10...Dayton
FCS....San Diego

Not sure how any of that squares with the primary media contracts those conferences have. Also, I do know that some stations that are part of the Fox Sports Carolinas network also air some ACC games, including FB and MBB. But I don't know how much autonomy individual stations have within those regional networks.

I also don't know why 4 RSNs weren't on that page, or which ones those are.
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(04-13-2018 09:02 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 08:54 AM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:56 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:49 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:32 AM)ken d Wrote:  Am I reading correctly that none of Fox' sports broadcasting will move to Disney? If so, does this affect the sports landscape in any significant way?

Very. From Sporting News:

"Disney will acquire all 22 Fox Sports Regional Networks that carry local coverage of no fewer than 44 MLB, NBA and NHL teams across the U.S.

That doesn't include the RSNs' carriage of college football and basketball, plus the WNBA and MLS."

Analysts say that of the $52B Disney is paying for the FOX properties, about $22B is for those regional sports networks. They carry a LOT of content, and could help bolster ESPN content and streaming moves.

So, potentially Fox Sports would free up assets now devoted to pro sports, which they could now use to expand coverage of college sports. Would that be a correct reading of this?

FOX, FS1 and FS2 contracts are different than those of the regionals. This doesn't free up any space on those networks.

What it does it bolster ESPN's new app. All those RSN streaming rights are going to go to that app and a lot of the ESPN3 games will get moved to those networks.

What it frees up most for Fox, it seems to me, is money with which to bid for more desirable college properties than they now have on FS1 and FS2.

The problem that Fox has now is with college properties- they're next cycle going to be playing defense quite a bit. They already have Big Ten, Big 12, and Pac 12.

I'd say it frees up money to go after pro stuff quite frankly. NHL and then getting more of the MLB.
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(04-13-2018 10:26 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 09:55 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 09:05 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 08:54 AM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:56 AM)ken d Wrote:  So, potentially Fox Sports would free up assets now devoted to pro sports, which they could now use to expand coverage of college sports. Would that be a correct reading of this?

FOX, FS1 and FS2 contracts are different than those of the regionals. This doesn't free up any space on those networks.

What it does it bolster ESPN's new app. All those RSN streaming rights are going to go to that app and a lot of the ESPN3 games will get moved to those networks.

Those FOX Regionals do deals with college sports. For instance, FOX SW carried a number of lower tier Big12 games. I wonder if those 3rd tier rights stay with those regional networks or remain with FOX.

I'd imagine it goes to Disney...unless negotiated.

Schools whose logos are featured on the website that lists 18 Fox RSN's are:

B1G....Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan St, Wisconsin, Minnesota
B12....Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Kansas, Kansas St
PAC....USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona St
SEC....Florida, Tennessee, Missouri
ACC...Florida St, Miami
BE.....Xavier, Marquette
AAC...Cincinnati
MWC..San Diego St
A10...Dayton
FCS....San Diego

Not sure how any of that squares with the primary media contracts those conferences have. Also, I do know that some stations that are part of the Fox Sports Carolinas network also air some ACC games, including FB and MBB. But I don't know how much autonomy individual stations have within those regional networks.

I also don't know why 4 RSNs weren't on that page, or which ones those are.

Would love to get more Bearcat content off downstream ESPN stations/ESPN3 and on Fox Sports Ohio.
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(04-13-2018 10:57 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 09:02 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 08:54 AM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:56 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:49 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Very. From Sporting News:

"Disney will acquire all 22 Fox Sports Regional Networks that carry local coverage of no fewer than 44 MLB, NBA and NHL teams across the U.S.

That doesn't include the RSNs' carriage of college football and basketball, plus the WNBA and MLS."

Analysts say that of the $52B Disney is paying for the FOX properties, about $22B is for those regional sports networks. They carry a LOT of content, and could help bolster ESPN content and streaming moves.

So, potentially Fox Sports would free up assets now devoted to pro sports, which they could now use to expand coverage of college sports. Would that be a correct reading of this?

FOX, FS1 and FS2 contracts are different than those of the regionals. This doesn't free up any space on those networks.

What it does it bolster ESPN's new app. All those RSN streaming rights are going to go to that app and a lot of the ESPN3 games will get moved to those networks.

What it frees up most for Fox, it seems to me, is money with which to bid for more desirable college properties than they now have on FS1 and FS2.

The problem that Fox has now is with college properties- they're next cycle going to be playing defense quite a bit. They already have Big Ten, Big 12, and Pac 12.

I'd say it frees up money to go after pro stuff quite frankly. NHL and then getting more of the MLB.

Do you think this signals that Fox intends to back away some from competition with ESPN for college sports? That wouldn't bode well for any conferences that have come to rely on megabucks from their media deals. No reason for ESPN to continue to bid high if Fox isn't pushing them to do so.

But if Fox wants to pursue more MLB and NHL, why would they now be selling off all they currently have? And why would ESPN be buying them if they thought Fox was going to turn around and compete with them for those same assets?
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(04-13-2018 11:05 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 10:57 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 09:02 AM)ken d Wrote:  
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(04-13-2018 07:56 AM)ken d Wrote:  So, potentially Fox Sports would free up assets now devoted to pro sports, which they could now use to expand coverage of college sports. Would that be a correct reading of this?

FOX, FS1 and FS2 contracts are different than those of the regionals. This doesn't free up any space on those networks.

What it does it bolster ESPN's new app. All those RSN streaming rights are going to go to that app and a lot of the ESPN3 games will get moved to those networks.

What it frees up most for Fox, it seems to me, is money with which to bid for more desirable college properties than they now have on FS1 and FS2.

The problem that Fox has now is with college properties- they're next cycle going to be playing defense quite a bit. They already have Big Ten, Big 12, and Pac 12.

I'd say it frees up money to go after pro stuff quite frankly. NHL and then getting more of the MLB.

Do you think this signals that Fox intends to back away some from competition with ESPN for college sports? That wouldn't bode well for any conferences that have come to rely on megabucks from their media deals. No reason for ESPN to continue to bid high if Fox isn't pushing them to do so.

But if Fox wants to pursue more MLB and NHL, why would they now be selling off all they currently have? And why would ESPN be buying them if they thought Fox was going to turn around and compete with them for those same assets?
Local contracts and national contracts are 100% different animals.
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(04-13-2018 09:05 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
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(04-13-2018 07:56 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:49 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:32 AM)ken d Wrote:  Am I reading correctly that none of Fox' sports broadcasting will move to Disney? If so, does this affect the sports landscape in any significant way?

Very. From Sporting News:

"Disney will acquire all 22 Fox Sports Regional Networks that carry local coverage of no fewer than 44 MLB, NBA and NHL teams across the U.S.

That doesn't include the RSNs' carriage of college football and basketball, plus the WNBA and MLS."

Analysts say that of the $52B Disney is paying for the FOX properties, about $22B is for those regional sports networks. They carry a LOT of content, and could help bolster ESPN content and streaming moves.

So, potentially Fox Sports would free up assets now devoted to pro sports, which they could now use to expand coverage of college sports. Would that be a correct reading of this?

FOX, FS1 and FS2 contracts are different than those of the regionals. This doesn't free up any space on those networks.

What it does it bolster ESPN's new app. All those RSN streaming rights are going to go to that app and a lot of the ESPN3 games will get moved to those networks.

Those FOX Regionals do deals with college sports. For instance, FOX SW carried a number of lower tier Big12 games. I wonder if those 3rd tier rights stay with those regional networks or remain with FOX.

I would bet that since the contract for those rights is with the Regionals, they would go with the Regionals to Disney.
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RE: Disney - FOX deal likely to consummate by "mid-2019"
(04-13-2018 11:28 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 09:05 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 08:54 AM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:56 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 07:49 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Very. From Sporting News:

"Disney will acquire all 22 Fox Sports Regional Networks that carry local coverage of no fewer than 44 MLB, NBA and NHL teams across the U.S.

That doesn't include the RSNs' carriage of college football and basketball, plus the WNBA and MLS."

Analysts say that of the $52B Disney is paying for the FOX properties, about $22B is for those regional sports networks. They carry a LOT of content, and could help bolster ESPN content and streaming moves.

So, potentially Fox Sports would free up assets now devoted to pro sports, which they could now use to expand coverage of college sports. Would that be a correct reading of this?

FOX, FS1 and FS2 contracts are different than those of the regionals. This doesn't free up any space on those networks.

What it does it bolster ESPN's new app. All those RSN streaming rights are going to go to that app and a lot of the ESPN3 games will get moved to those networks.

Those FOX Regionals do deals with college sports. For instance, FOX SW carried a number of lower tier Big12 games. I wonder if those 3rd tier rights stay with those regional networks or remain with FOX.

I would bet that since the contract for those rights is with the Regionals, they would go with the Regionals to Disney.

I dont know if thats the case. My guess is that the Big12 deal is actually with FOX and Fox simply decided which games will be on their primary platforms and the rest fell to their lower tier regional platforms. But thats just a guess. That said, if there were insufficient slots on FOX/FS1/FS2 to house that inventory before---then that same dynamic still exists. Thus, its very possible that rights for the overflow content was given to the Disney as part of the deal.
(This post was last modified: 04-13-2018 06:05 PM by Attackcoog.)
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