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RE: Disney - FOX deal likely to consummate by "mid-2019"
(04-13-2018 10:44 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  I'd like to see a list of movie franchises that Disney will acquire.

FOX's Marvel properties ... X-Men, Fantastic 4, Deadpool

Avatar

Planet of the Apes

Ice Age

Alien

Die Hard

Kingsman
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(04-14-2018 05:47 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 01:03 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  So in essence Disney bought 1 more game from every Big XII team except Iowa St?

As one of the least important aspects of the deal, yes.

Of course the pro sports and the movie franchises are much bigger, but this is a college sports forum.
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(04-14-2018 09:50 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 05:47 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 01:03 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  So in essence Disney bought 1 more game from every Big XII team except Iowa St?

As one of the least important aspects of the deal, yes.

Of course the pro sports and the movie franchises are much bigger, but this is a college sports forum.

The way your worded it, it seemed liked you were mocking the Disney buy, as if they'd spent a ton of money to pick up a handful of Big 12 games. I think that's why he responded that way, though your reply to him now indicates you didn't mean it that way.

To me, it's clear now that with the pickup of these regional FOX networks, Disney has added a non-trivial volume of college sports, including P5, content to its already substantial holdings.
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(04-14-2018 10:03 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 09:50 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 05:47 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 01:03 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  So in essence Disney bought 1 more game from every Big XII team except Iowa St?

As one of the least important aspects of the deal, yes.

Of course the pro sports and the movie franchises are much bigger, but this is a college sports forum.

The way your worded it, it seemed liked you were mocking the Disney buy, as if they'd spent a ton of money to pick up a handful of Big 12 games. I think that's why he responded that way, though your reply to him now indicates you didn't mean it that way.

To me, it's clear now that with the pickup of these regional FOX networks, Disney has added a non-trivial volume of college sports, including P5, content to its already substantial holdings.

What? That's not clear at all. The RSN's don't have "a non-trivial volume of college sports, including P5". They have some leftover scraps that Fox couldn't find space for on FS1. And the RSNs very likely will have to re-negotiate sublicensing agreements with Fox Sports to keep that stuff. (I think they will do so without much difficulty).

And whatever the RSNs do have, they only have local cable rights to. Which isn't especially useful for ESPN.

(Possibly QUo is being obtuse to irritate me. That's actually a pretty solid explanation.)
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(04-14-2018 11:31 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 10:03 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 09:50 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 05:47 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 01:03 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  So in essence Disney bought 1 more game from every Big XII team except Iowa St?

As one of the least important aspects of the deal, yes.

Of course the pro sports and the movie franchises are much bigger, but this is a college sports forum.

The way your worded it, it seemed liked you were mocking the Disney buy, as if they'd spent a ton of money to pick up a handful of Big 12 games. I think that's why he responded that way, though your reply to him now indicates you didn't mean it that way.

To me, it's clear now that with the pickup of these regional FOX networks, Disney has added a non-trivial volume of college sports, including P5, content to its already substantial holdings.

What? That's not clear at all. The RSN's don't have "a non-trivial volume of college sports, including P5". They have some leftover scraps that Fox couldn't find space for on FS1. And the RSNs very likely will have to re-negotiate sublicensing agreements with Fox Sports to keep that stuff. (I think they will do so without much difficulty).

And whatever the RSNs do have, they only have local cable rights to. Which isn't especially useful for ESPN.

(Possibly QUo is being obtuse to irritate me. That's actually a pretty solid explanation.)

Scroll through the list at the end. It's a non-trivial amount of content:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/...b4b5bb7ba4
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RE: Disney - FOX deal likely to consummate by "mid-2019"
(04-14-2018 07:56 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 10:44 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  I'd like to see a list of movie franchises that Disney will acquire.

FOX's Marvel properties ... X-Men, Fantastic 4, Deadpool

Avatar

Planet of the Apes

Ice Age

Alien

Die Hard

Kingsman

Interesting about Avatar. Disney makes extra money by not needing to pay for the current licensing deal they have in place for their Avatar land at Animal Kingdom.
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RE: Disney - FOX deal likely to consummate by "mid-2019"
(04-14-2018 12:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 11:31 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 10:03 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 09:50 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 05:47 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  As one of the least important aspects of the deal, yes.

Of course the pro sports and the movie franchises are much bigger, but this is a college sports forum.

The way your worded it, it seemed liked you were mocking the Disney buy, as if they'd spent a ton of money to pick up a handful of Big 12 games. I think that's why he responded that way, though your reply to him now indicates you didn't mean it that way.

To me, it's clear now that with the pickup of these regional FOX networks, Disney has added a non-trivial volume of college sports, including P5, content to its already substantial holdings.

What? That's not clear at all. The RSN's don't have "a non-trivial volume of college sports, including P5". They have some leftover scraps that Fox couldn't find space for on FS1. And the RSNs very likely will have to re-negotiate sublicensing agreements with Fox Sports to keep that stuff. (I think they will do so without much difficulty).

And whatever the RSNs do have, they only have local cable rights to. Which isn't especially useful for ESPN.

(Possibly QUo is being obtuse to irritate me. That's actually a pretty solid explanation.)

Scroll through the list at the end. It's a non-trivial amount of content:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/...b4b5bb7ba4

The list gets less impressive when you stop to think about what the content actually IS. Fox Sports Arizona has "Arizona STate Sun Devils, other PAc 12 conference content", but not any actual football or men's basketball games. (http://thesundevils.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=429, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Arizo...m#Schedule )

So, possibly Fox SPorts ARizona has some Arizona State women's soccer, or a one-hour show with Arizona State's football coach. But I think it's fair to call that "a trivial amount of content."

The heart of the matter is what ESPN can actually DO with the RSN content. If the RSNs currently own the digital streaming rights to the games they're broadcasting, then I am wrong and everyone else is right. But I'm not convinced at all that the RSNs currently own those rights. I believe that those rights are held by the leagues. I do not believe that ESPN's owning Fox Sports Arizona allows them to put Arizona Diamondbacks games on ESPN+, because those rights are held by MLB.com.
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(04-14-2018 12:54 PM)otown Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 07:56 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-13-2018 10:44 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  I'd like to see a list of movie franchises that Disney will acquire.

FOX's Marvel properties ... X-Men, Fantastic 4, Deadpool

Avatar

Planet of the Apes

Ice Age

Alien

Die Hard

Kingsman

Interesting about Avatar. Disney makes extra money by not needing to pay for the current licensing deal they have in place for their Avatar land at Animal Kingdom.

Good point.

Some of those theme park deals are weird. E.g., Universal is, to its obvious pain, shut out of the Marvel movie-making business.

But, as we all know from having been there, they own the rights to use most of the biggest names, like Spider-Man, Captain America, and Hulk, at its Orlando theme parks, meaning Disney isn't allowed to use them at Disney World. So every time Disney makes a Captain America movie, that helps boost attendance at Universal's Islands of Adventure, which competes with Disney World - and every time someone meets Captain America or another Marvel character at Universal Orlando, it helps sell a Disney/Marvel movie*.

Except ... the old agreement says that Universal had to be actively using the characters to keep their exclusivity, and since they hadn't incorporated the Guardians of the Galaxy stuff at their Orlando parks, Disney is now building a Guardians ride at EPCOT to capitalize on those characters**.

Also, this applies east of the Mississippi river only, so Disney is ramping up big Marvel attractions at its Anaheim property, and at Disneyland's in Asia as well.






* Unless of course they meet Spider-man, which helps sell a Sony movie, since Sony owns that character for movies***.

** Except, possibly, Drax, who just might legally be a part of the Avenger's world, in which case he would fall under the Universal umbrella. Possibly, because even the lawyers aren't sure. So, just as even when they climbed in the ring, not even Vince McMahon Jr was sure that Andre the Giant was going to follow the WM3 script and let Hulk Hogan beat him, we won't know until the ride opens if Disney is daring to use Drax or not.

*** ... though now that Disney and Sony have agreed to cross-promote Spider-man in Disney Avengers movies, it helps sell Disney movies too.
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(04-14-2018 01:06 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 12:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 11:31 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 10:03 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 09:50 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Of course the pro sports and the movie franchises are much bigger, but this is a college sports forum.

The way your worded it, it seemed liked you were mocking the Disney buy, as if they'd spent a ton of money to pick up a handful of Big 12 games. I think that's why he responded that way, though your reply to him now indicates you didn't mean it that way.

To me, it's clear now that with the pickup of these regional FOX networks, Disney has added a non-trivial volume of college sports, including P5, content to its already substantial holdings.

What? That's not clear at all. The RSN's don't have "a non-trivial volume of college sports, including P5". They have some leftover scraps that Fox couldn't find space for on FS1. And the RSNs very likely will have to re-negotiate sublicensing agreements with Fox Sports to keep that stuff. (I think they will do so without much difficulty).

And whatever the RSNs do have, they only have local cable rights to. Which isn't especially useful for ESPN.

(Possibly QUo is being obtuse to irritate me. That's actually a pretty solid explanation.)

Scroll through the list at the end. It's a non-trivial amount of content:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/...b4b5bb7ba4

The list gets less impressive when you stop to think about what the content actually IS. Fox Sports Arizona has "Arizona STate Sun Devils, other PAc 12 conference content", but not any actual football or men's basketball games. (http://thesundevils.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=429, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Arizo...m#Schedule )

So, possibly Fox SPorts ARizona has some Arizona State women's soccer, or a one-hour show with Arizona State's football coach. But I think it's fair to call that "a trivial amount of content."

Now go ahead and do that for the plethora of other FOX regional networks in that list that say similar things about many other college teams and conferences. Show that all of them are as trivial as you say Arizona State is, and you might have something.

Or even then maybe not, because a whole lot of a little can add up to ... something.

In the end, though, there is plenty that is still unknown, including all the streaming stuff. We'll have to wait and see.
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(04-14-2018 01:29 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 01:06 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 12:51 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 11:31 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 10:03 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  The way your worded it, it seemed liked you were mocking the Disney buy, as if they'd spent a ton of money to pick up a handful of Big 12 games. I think that's why he responded that way, though your reply to him now indicates you didn't mean it that way.

To me, it's clear now that with the pickup of these regional FOX networks, Disney has added a non-trivial volume of college sports, including P5, content to its already substantial holdings.

What? That's not clear at all. The RSN's don't have "a non-trivial volume of college sports, including P5". They have some leftover scraps that Fox couldn't find space for on FS1. And the RSNs very likely will have to re-negotiate sublicensing agreements with Fox Sports to keep that stuff. (I think they will do so without much difficulty).

And whatever the RSNs do have, they only have local cable rights to. Which isn't especially useful for ESPN.

(Possibly QUo is being obtuse to irritate me. That's actually a pretty solid explanation.)

Scroll through the list at the end. It's a non-trivial amount of content:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/...b4b5bb7ba4

The list gets less impressive when you stop to think about what the content actually IS. Fox Sports Arizona has "Arizona STate Sun Devils, other PAc 12 conference content", but not any actual football or men's basketball games. (http://thesundevils.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=429, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Arizo...m#Schedule )

So, possibly Fox SPorts ARizona has some Arizona State women's soccer, or a one-hour show with Arizona State's football coach. But I think it's fair to call that "a trivial amount of content."

Now go ahead and do that for the plethora of other FOX regional networks in that list that say similar things about many other college teams and conferences. Show that all of them are as trivial as you say Arizona State is, and you might have something.

Trivial as "I say" Arizona State is? I provided links to the football and men's basketball schedules. The only game that looks like it was on FSA was ASU @ Texas TEch, which was a Big 12 TV property.

The valuable content in college sports isn't on the RSNs. That's a fact.

Quote:Or even then maybe not, because a whole lot of a little can add up to ... something.

In the end, though, there is plenty that is still unknown, including all the streaming stuff. We'll have to wait and see.

It's one thing to say that buying the RSNs helps ESPN because they get access to the tons of MLB, NBA and NHL games that the RSNs own. I don't think that's true, because I don't think the RSNs own the streaming rights, but if it IS true, then you have something valuable.

It's ridiculous to say that buying the RSNs helps ESPN's position on college sports. The stuff the RSNs have is, at best, Longhorn Network quality content.
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ESPN will be acquiring a massive amount of new content, as Fox Sports’ 22 regional sports networks control the local cable rights to the following professional teams:

NBA (17): Suns, Hornets, Pistons, Magic, Pacers, Pelicans, Timberwolves, Cavaliers, Thunder, Hawks, Grizzlies, Mavericks, Spurs, Heat, Clippers, Bucks, Nets.

MLB (15): Diamondbacks, Tigers, Rays, Royals, Cardinals, Twins, Reds, Padres, Braves, Rangers, Marlins, Angels, Brewers, Indians, Yankees.

NHL (12): Coyotes, Hurricanes, Red Wings, Panthers, Blues, Wild, Blue Jackets, Predators, Stars, Lightning, Kings, Ducks.


That doesn’t even include college football and basketball, plus Major League Soccer and the WNBA. This purchase of the RSN's is really more about pro sports, although there will be a lot more college sports offered on the Disney family of channels with this purchase of the Fox RSN's.
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(04-14-2018 01:50 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  ESPN will be acquiring a massive amount of new content, as Fox Sports’ 22 regional sports networks control the local cable rights to the following professional teams:

No. ESPN isn't acquiring squat here (roughly speaking). ESPN is a national broadcaster. The RSNs own *local* broadcast/cable rights. They're not transferable.

If what you all are saying were the case, then FS1 would have launched with a Yankees game every Sunday, simulcast with Fox-partnered YES. It didn't, because it doesn't work that way.
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The ESPN lovers are quite obvious on here...ESPN hasn’t aquired that much from the Fox regionals. They aren’t getting the tier 3 rights of the big 12 schools like it’s been posted on here. As far as the pac 12 rights as someone said earlier...maybe a pac 12 wrestling meet or women’s basketball game that the pac12network passes on will become available? Doubt it. ESPN hasn’t worked out a deal with Iowa St, Texas or Oklahoma for anything T3; doubt the other 7 B12 schools have just given those up either. Some wishful thinking going on by the pro ESPN crowd I suspect rather than being dishonest.
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(04-14-2018 01:50 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  ESPN will be acquiring a massive amount of new content, as Fox Sports’ 22 regional sports networks control the local cable rights to the following professional teams:

NBA (17): Suns, Hornets, Pistons, Magic, Pacers, Pelicans, Timberwolves, Cavaliers, Thunder, Hawks, Grizzlies, Mavericks, Spurs, Heat, Clippers, Bucks, Nets.

MLB (15): Diamondbacks, Tigers, Rays, Royals, Cardinals, Twins, Reds, Padres, Braves, Rangers, Marlins, Angels, Brewers, Indians, Yankees.

NHL (12): Coyotes, Hurricanes, Red Wings, Panthers, Blues, Wild, Blue Jackets, Predators, Stars, Lightning, Kings, Ducks.


That doesn’t even include college football and basketball, plus Major League Soccer and the WNBA. This purchase of the RSN's is really more about pro sports, although there will be a lot more college sports offered on the Disney family of channels with this purchase of the Fox RSN's.

I follow the OKC Thunder. Please remove them off your list, that’s not accurate at all!—there’s been no announcement that ESPN got the local thunder games, you are just assuming.
P.S. My parents dropped Cox Cable and ESPN in OKC and regularly watch thunder games for free. I gaurantee that will not change because ESPN acquired the Fox regionals. And it better not.
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There is one strange side effect of this deal. First, here's all of the college sports content, with ACC content in bold (for a reason you'll see in a moment):

Fox Sports Arizona: Arizona State Sun Devils, other Pac-12 Conference content
Fox Sports Carolinas: ACC and SEC content
Fox Sports Detroit: state college and high school content
Fox Sports Florida: coverage of college sports events from the Big East, Big 12, C-USA and ACC
Fox Sports Indiana: [no unique college sports]
Fox Sports Kansas City: Kansas Jayhawks, Kansas State Wildcats and other collegiate content from the Big 12 Conference and Missouri Valley Conference
Fox Sports Midwest: collegiate content from the Missouri Valley Conference, the St. Louis Billikens and the SIUE Cougars, as well as the Nebraska Cornhuskers
Fox Sports New Orleans: Collegiate games from the Big 12 Conference and the Southeastern Conference, select Tulane Green Wave college football games
Fox Sports North: collegiate content from the Minnesota Golden Gophers, the Minnesota-Duluth Bulldogs, the Minnesota State Mavericks, the St. Cloud State Huskies and the UND Fighting Sioux, as well as college hockey games from the Western Collegiate Hockey Association
Fox Sports Ohio: collegiate content including the Xavier Musketeers and the Cincinnati Bearcats
Fox Sports Oklahoma: Collegiate content including the Oklahoma Sooners and the Oklahoma State Cowboys
Fox Sports San Diego: [no unique college sports]
Fox Sports South: collegiate content from the ACC
Fox Sports Southeast: collegiate events from the Tennessee Volunteers; also includes FOX Sports South content
Fox Sports Southwest: University Interscholastic League, collegiate content from the Big XII and C-USA
Fox Sports Sun: collegiate content from the Florida State Seminoles
Fox Sports Tennessee: collegiate content from the SEC
Fox Sports West: collegiate content from the Big West Conference and the West Coast Conference
Fox Sports Wisconsin: Wisconsin Interscholastic Athletic Association, collegiate content from the Big East Conference, the Big Ten Conference and the Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Fox Sports Prime Ticket: Ostensibly mirrors FOX Sports West
SportsTime Ohio: [no unique college sports]
YES Network: collegiate content including ACC and Big East basketball, ACC football, ACC Olympic sports and ACC and Big East programming from Fox

I know in the case of the ACC the rights to that local content had been sold to Fox, so ESPN effectively just bought it all back - just in time for the launch of the ACC Network, too. (How long have they known this was going to happen in 2019? Is that why they picked 2019 as the launch date?)
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(04-14-2018 02:46 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  There is one strange side effect of this deal. First, here's all of the college sports content, with ACC content in bold (for a reason you'll see in a moment):

Fox Sports Arizona: Arizona State Sun Devils, other Pac-12 Conference content
Fox Sports Carolinas: ACC and SEC content
Fox Sports Detroit: state college and high school content
Fox Sports Florida: coverage of college sports events from the Big East, Big 12, C-USA and ACC
Fox Sports Indiana: [no unique college sports]
Fox Sports Kansas City: Kansas Jayhawks, Kansas State Wildcats and other collegiate content from the Big 12 Conference and Missouri Valley Conference
Fox Sports Midwest: collegiate content from the Missouri Valley Conference, the St. Louis Billikens and the SIUE Cougars, as well as the Nebraska Cornhuskers
Fox Sports New Orleans: Collegiate games from the Big 12 Conference and the Southeastern Conference, select Tulane Green Wave college football games
Fox Sports North: collegiate content from the Minnesota Golden Gophers, the Minnesota-Duluth Bulldogs, the Minnesota State Mavericks, the St. Cloud State Huskies and the UND Fighting Sioux, as well as college hockey games from the Western Collegiate Hockey Association
Fox Sports Ohio: collegiate content including the Xavier Musketeers and the Cincinnati Bearcats
Fox Sports Oklahoma: Collegiate content including the Oklahoma Sooners and the Oklahoma State Cowboys
Fox Sports San Diego: [no unique college sports]
Fox Sports South: collegiate content from the ACC
Fox Sports Southeast: collegiate events from the Tennessee Volunteers; also includes FOX Sports South content
Fox Sports Southwest: University Interscholastic League, collegiate content from the Big XII and C-USA
Fox Sports Sun: collegiate content from the Florida State Seminoles
Fox Sports Tennessee: collegiate content from the SEC
Fox Sports West: collegiate content from the Big West Conference and the West Coast Conference
Fox Sports Wisconsin: Wisconsin Interscholastic Athletic Association, collegiate content from the Big East Conference, the Big Ten Conference and the Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
Fox Sports Prime Ticket: Ostensibly mirrors FOX Sports West
SportsTime Ohio: [no unique college sports]
YES Network: collegiate content including ACC and Big East basketball, ACC football, ACC Olympic sports and ACC and Big East programming from Fox

I know in the case of the ACC the rights to that local content had been sold to Fox, so ESPN effectively just bought it all back - just in time for the launch of the ACC Network, too. (How long have they known this was going to happen in 2019? Is that why they picked 2019 as the launch date?)

That content was all licensed to Raycom in 2010. http://www.whatyoupayforsports.com/2013/...c-network/ It's very possible that Raycom's pockets aren't that deep and they agreed to an early exit in 2019.
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(04-14-2018 02:50 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  That content was all licensed to Raycom in 2010. http://www.whatyoupayforsports.com/2013/...c-network/ It's very possible that Raycom's pockets aren't that deep and they agreed to an early exit in 2019.

Yes, but then Raycom sub-licensed it to the various Fox RSNs - so Raycom no longer owned those rights.
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RE: Disney - FOX deal likely to consummate by "mid-2019"
This from Disney Chairman Bob Iger regarding the purchase of the Fox RSN's:

"There will be a sharing of product so that we can infuse ESPN national with some more local content. And infuse the local regional sports networks with more national content. The result is both will be better for the consumer than they are today."

The RSNs are also expected to feed content to the new ESPN+ streaming service, which president John Skipper touted as one of the company' most important initiatives Wednesday.

Fox has an agreement with MLB to take some of their regional broadcasts and televise them nationally:

https://www.multichannel.com/news/fs1-bo...sts-356044

It wouldn't be hard to imagine Disney cutting a similar deals with the MLB and the NHL. Fox RSN's broadcast more NHL games than any other network. It would be easy to see ESPN coming in as a secondary to NBC for the NHL. It is more money for the NHL.
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RE: Disney - FOX deal likely to consummate by "mid-2019"
(04-14-2018 03:14 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  This from Disney Chairman Bob Iger regarding the purchase of the Fox RSN's:

"There will be a sharing of product so that we can infuse ESPN national with some more local content. And infuse the local regional sports networks with more national content. The result is both will be better for the consumer than they are today."

The RSNs are also expected to feed content to the new ESPN+ streaming service, which president John Skipper touted as one of the company' most important initiatives Wednesday.

[Fox has an agreement with MLB to take some of their regional broadcasts and televise them nationally:

https://www.multichannel.com/news/fs1-bo...sts-356044


It wouldn't be hard to imagine Disney cutting a similar deals with the MLB and the NHL. Fox RSN's broadcast more NHL games than any other network. It would be easy to see ESPN coming in as a secondary to NBC for the NHL. It is more money for the NHL.

That, in fact, change everything. If FS1 has been broadcasting Yankee games where they play other FSN-affiliated teams, then ESPN *can* do that and I've been wrong.

(IF nothing, they've been doing it.) So everybody else was right.
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RE: Disney - FOX deal likely to consummate by "mid-2019"
(04-14-2018 02:00 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  
(04-14-2018 01:50 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  ESPN will be acquiring a massive amount of new content, as Fox Sports’ 22 regional sports networks control the local cable rights to the following professional teams:

No. ESPN isn't acquiring squat here (roughly speaking). ESPN is a national broadcaster. The RSNs own *local* broadcast/cable rights. They're not transferable.

If what you all are saying were the case, then FS1 would have launched with a Yankees game every Sunday, simulcast with Fox-partnered YES. It didn't, because it doesn't work that way.

The Yankees broadcasting to the NYC area alone is far from squat, it's massive all by itself. And that's just one thing.

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