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Going so far with four. The power indices are way to immature presently to be of any use. They seem to start making better track in mid-August when the summer FB programs kick off and the 'writers/analysts get into the real groove.

Just eyeballing it in an earlier post I think I said 3 or 4.

Should lose: Houston, Wake Forest, La tech, LSU

Have to really work to win: SoMiss, UAB, North Texas (call 1 of these an 'everything crumbled our way' win)

Tossup: Hawaii, UTSA, FIU, Old Dominion (we either win 0 of these, or 3 of them, their PI is so close together that we are either completely overmatched, or are superior to the group) (call the expected value of 1 as an easy exit here)

Should win: PV, UTEP

I put the magic number as 4. On a good turn of events 6.

I think the efficacy of Bloomgren will show in the how we do against the group of (Hawaii, UTSA, FIU, ODU). If he can win 2 of these 4 this year, I will be really pleased. If he wins 1, pleased, but not as much. Each shows real improvement. If he doesnt win against any of these 4 this year, that will be a disappointment. But, I do realize that his cupboard is not overloaded with goodies from Santa Bailiff and the 12 elves.

The hope for me future-wise is that we rise, not this year, but next, where we dominate that group or class of team, and split the next higher group. At that point, within a CUSA playing group, that will be a bowl game possible scenario. If we can get to 'competing' at the current (SoMiss, UAB, North Texas) level, that translates to 6 or 7 wins a season.
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RE: [split] Mike Bloomgren's 2nd Rice recruiting class
(07-14-2018 12:39 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Going so far with four. The power indices are way to immature presently to be of any use. They seem to start making better track in mid-August when the summer FB programs kick off and the 'writers/analysts get into the real groove.

Just eyeballing it in an earlier post I think I said 3 or 4.

Should lose: Houston, Wake Forest, La tech, LSU

Have to really work to win: SoMiss, UAB, North Texas (call 1 of these an 'everything crumbled our way' win)

Tossup: Hawaii, UTSA, FIU, Old Dominion (we either win 0 of these, or 3 of them, their PI is so close together that we are either completely overmatched, or are superior to the group) (call the expected value of 1 as an easy exit here)

Should win: PV, UTEP

I put the magic number as 4. On a good turn of events 6.

I think the efficacy of Bloomgren will show in the how we do against the group of (Hawaii, UTSA, FIU, ODU). If he can win 2 of these 4 this year, I will be really pleased. If he wins 1, pleased, but not as much. Each shows real improvement. If he doesnt win against any of these 4 this year, that will be a disappointment. But, I do realize that his cupboard is not overloaded with goodies from Santa Bailiff and the 12 elves.

The hope for me future-wise is that we rise, not this year, but next, where we dominate that group or class of team, and split the next higher group. At that point, within a CUSA playing group, that will be a bowl game possible scenario. If we can get to 'competing' at the current (SoMiss, UAB, North Texas) level, that translates to 6 or 7 wins a season.

four is not out of the question. More is not out of the question. But what I see as likely is PV, UTEP, and a win to be named later, with a range of +/- 3. I am just not as ready as some to ascribe wins to a beter attitude, etc. I hope to be proven wrong in my pessimism.
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Got our QB for the class
https://247sports.com/Player/Trevor-Bycznski-46041854

Big Pro-style QB from Ohio.
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Impressive. Let's hope we can keep him.
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Dave Campbell magazine has us winning three games. Interesting two deep list in the magazine but not sure if it means anything. They have the Vanderbilt transfer ahead of Tyner.



(07-14-2018 12:39 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Going so far with four. The power indices are way to immature presently to be of any use. They seem to start making better track in mid-August when the summer FB programs kick off and the 'writers/analysts get into the real groove.

Just eyeballing it in an earlier post I think I said 3 or 4.

Should lose: Houston, Wake Forest, La tech, LSU

Have to really work to win: SoMiss, UAB, North Texas (call 1 of these an 'everything crumbled our way' win)

Tossup: Hawaii, UTSA, FIU, Old Dominion (we either win 0 of these, or 3 of them, their PI is so close together that we are either completely overmatched, or are superior to the group) (call the expected value of 1 as an easy exit here)

Should win: PV, UTEP

I put the magic number as 4. On a good turn of events 6.

I think the efficacy of Bloomgren will show in the how we do against the group of (Hawaii, UTSA, FIU, ODU). If he can win 2 of these 4 this year, I will be really pleased. If he wins 1, pleased, but not as much. Each shows real improvement. If he doesnt win against any of these 4 this year, that will be a disappointment. But, I do realize that his cupboard is not overloaded with goodies from Santa Bailiff and the 12 elves.

The hope for me future-wise is that we rise, not this year, but next, where we dominate that group or class of team, and split the next higher group. At that point, within a CUSA playing group, that will be a bowl game possible scenario. If we can get to 'competing' at the current (SoMiss, UAB, North Texas) level, that translates to 6 or 7 wins a season.
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https://twitter.com/bycznski8/status/101...77477?s=21


BTW, Andrew Luck when he was at Stanford:

STANFORD, CA - APRIL 6: Andrew Luck of the Stanford Cardinal poses for a. 12 Andrew Luck. Position: Quarterback. Class: Redshirt. Height: 6-4. Weight: 235. Hometown: Houston, TX. High School: Stratford HS.
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Two things really apparent from that reel linked to:

1. The HS coach loved the shotgun formation, fake inside handoff, qb run.
2. On that misdirection inside handoff from the shotgun, the OL was absolutely fantastic --- enough cross blocking to get the defense to commit to the inside fake (the 'misdirection blocking'), and just enough counter blocking to create some very nice running room at the real point of attack after the fake. The misdirection blocking almost always stretched the defense well 'away' from the real attack, and just enough counter blocking to take real advantage of that overstretch.

Id love to see that type of offense and OL play headed Rice ways, tbh.

Not meaning to downplay Bycznski, he definitely has the 'foot' skill to implement this well; the OL play plan is *really* well set up to take full advantage of that skill. The planning of that play is very well done -- and the on-field execution of it is extremely well done.
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(07-19-2018 07:27 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Two things really apparent from that reel linked to:

1. The HS coach loved the shotgun formation, fake inside handoff, qb run.
2. On that misdirection inside handoff from the shotgun, the OL was absolutely fantastic --- enough cross blocking to get the defense to commit to the inside fake (the 'misdirection blocking'), and just enough counter blocking to create some very nice running room at the real point of attack after the fake. The misdirection blocking almost always stretched the defense well 'away' from the real attack, and just enough counter blocking to take real advantage of that overstretch.

Id love to see that type of offense and OL play headed Rice ways, tbh.

Not meaning to downplay Bycznski, he definitely has the 'foot' skill to implement this well; the OL play plan is *really* well set up to take full advantage of that skill. The planning of that play is very well done -- and the on-field execution of it is extremely well done.

Really good points about the o-line. I looked and Bycznski ran a laser 5.36 40yd at the Nike camp (the often ridiculed Tom Brady 40yd at the combine was 5.28). It sounds like his real strengths are his size and big arm. We are his only FBS offer, so it will be interesting between now and signing day if others try to lure him away.
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(07-20-2018 11:50 AM)Rice FB Fan Wrote:  
(07-19-2018 07:27 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Two things really apparent from that reel linked to:

1. The HS coach loved the shotgun formation, fake inside handoff, qb run.
2. On that misdirection inside handoff from the shotgun, the OL was absolutely fantastic --- enough cross blocking to get the defense to commit to the inside fake (the 'misdirection blocking'), and just enough counter blocking to create some very nice running room at the real point of attack after the fake. The misdirection blocking almost always stretched the defense well 'away' from the real attack, and just enough counter blocking to take real advantage of that overstretch.

Id love to see that type of offense and OL play headed Rice ways, tbh.

Not meaning to downplay Bycznski, he definitely has the 'foot' skill to implement this well; the OL play plan is *really* well set up to take full advantage of that skill. The planning of that play is very well done -- and the on-field execution of it is extremely well done.

Really good points about the o-line. I looked and Bycznski ran a laser 5.36 40yd at the Nike camp (the often ridiculed Tom Brady 40yd at the combine was 5.28). It sounds like his real strengths are his size and big arm. We are his only FBS offer, so it will be interesting between now and signing day if others try to lure him away.

IF he becomes our QB, I can see lots of 4-8 yard runs from him, not many 30-99 yards. I saw him run down by a HS CB.
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(07-20-2018 12:07 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(07-20-2018 11:50 AM)Rice FB Fan Wrote:  [quote='tanqtonic' pid='15391693' dateline='1532046461']
Two things really apparent from that reel linked to:

1. The HS coach loved the shotgun formation, fake inside handoff, qb run.
2. On that misdirection inside handoff from the shotgun, the OL was absolutely fantastic --- enough cross blocking to get the defense to commit to the inside fake (the 'misdirection blocking'), and just enough counter blocking to create some very nice running room at the real point of attack after the fake. The misdirection blocking almost always stretched the defense well 'away' from the real attack, and just enough counter blocking to take real advantage of that overstretch.

Id love to see that type of offense and OL play headed Rice ways, tbh.

Not meaning to downplay Bycznski, he definitely has the 'foot' skill to implement this well; the OL play plan is *really* well set up to take full advantage of that skill. The planning of that play is very well done -- and the on-field execution of it is extremely well done.

Really good points about the o-line. I looked and Bycznski ran a laser 5.36 40yd at the Nike camp (the often ridiculed Tom Brady 40yd at the combine was 5.28). It sounds like his real strengths are his size and big arm. We are his only FBS offer, so it will be interesting between now and signing day if others try to lure him away.

IF he becomes our QB, I can see lots of 4-8 yard runs from him, not many 30-99 yards. I saw him run down by a HS cb.
He only runs a 5.0 40.
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Nice to see the Strivr system being used. Seems to have played a role in Bycznski's commit.

https://twitter.com/TierOne360/status/10...9657791488
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WR Zane Knipe. 3* Texas kid whose only offer was from Illinois.

https://247sports.com/Player/Zane-Knipe-46042164
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Also on campus:

3* S Tra Fluellen (Texas)
3* S Ron Nunnery (Texas)
3* S Christian Archangel (Louisiana)
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(07-25-2018 08:57 PM)elw4796 Wrote:  WR Zane Knipe. 3* Texas kid whose only offer was from Illinois.

https://247sports.com/Player/Zane-Knipe-46042164

Thanks. Didn’t search for “owls”. Looks fast with a 10.8 100 this year. Solid trend if we can keep Texas kids from going to the Illinois/Purdue/Northwesterns of the Big 10. Those kids can probably all get into Rice and are a higher level of recruit than what we’ve reeled in the last few years.

I think one decent year and Bloomgren could pull in some surprises on the recruiting trail. Several tweets from the Texas HS coaches about how full of energy he was this week at their meetings and how they’re looking forward to his Rice team.
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(07-25-2018 09:59 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  
(07-25-2018 08:57 PM)elw4796 Wrote:  WR Zane Knipe. 3* Texas kid whose only offer was from Illinois.

https://247sports.com/Player/Zane-Knipe-46042164

Thanks. Didn’t search for “owls”. Looks fast with a 10.8 100 this year. Solid trend if we can keep Texas kids from going to the Illinois/Purdue/Northwesterns of the Big 10. Those kids can probably all get into Rice and are a higher level of recruit than what we’ve reeled in the last few years.

I think one decent year and Bloomgren could pull in some surprises on the recruiting trail. Several tweets from the Texas HS coaches about how full of energy he was this week at their meetings and how they’re looking forward to his Rice team.

well now that's good news !
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(07-25-2018 09:59 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  
(07-25-2018 08:57 PM)elw4796 Wrote:  WR Zane Knipe. 3* Texas kid whose only offer was from Illinois.

https://247sports.com/Player/Zane-Knipe-46042164

Thanks. Didn’t search for “owls”. Looks fast with a 10.8 100 this year. Solid trend if we can keep Texas kids from going to the Illinois/Purdue/Northwesterns of the Big 10. Those kids can probably all get into Rice and are a higher level of recruit than what we’ve reeled in the last few years.

I think one decent year and Bloomgren could pull in some surprises on the recruiting trail. Several tweets from the Texas HS coaches about how full of energy he was this week at their meetings and how they’re looking forward to his Rice team.

well now that's good news !
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(07-25-2018 09:59 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  
(07-25-2018 08:57 PM)elw4796 Wrote:  WR Zane Knipe. 3* Texas kid whose only offer was from Illinois.

https://247sports.com/Player/Zane-Knipe-46042164

Thanks. Didn’t search for “owls”. Looks fast with a 10.8 100 this year. Solid trend if we can keep Texas kids from going to the Illinois/Purdue/Northwesterns of the Big 10. Those kids can probably all get into Rice and are a higher level of recruit than what we’ve reeled in the last few years.

I think one decent year and Bloomgren could pull in some surprises on the recruiting trail. Several tweets from the Texas HS coaches about how full of energy he was this week at their meetings and how they’re looking forward to his Rice team.

well now that's good news !
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