(04-11-2018 09:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:07 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 01:55 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 01:46 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 01:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  This is likely totally separate from the Mueller investigation into Russia, So, it's not related to the initial charge whatsoever. That's why Mueller sent it to the FBI and to Justice. Hence, no, this is not a fishing expedition on trump.

No, Mueller sent it to someone else because he didnt want to get skulldrug in front of Judge Emmet Sullivan again, which is where this would have ended up.

You jumped to a false conclusion. It is not a fishing expedition. The Feds had to establish a convincing case that there is reasonable cause to believe a crime has been committed as part of the process for obtaining the warrant. They also had to establish there was cause to believe that SPECIFIC evidence would be found at Cohens business and Apt. Hardly a fishing expedition.

Cohen is a "fixer". Basically an unethical POS and it's now catching up to him. But yeah, Trumps gonna drain the swamp!!!

Not a fishing expedition? Hilarious. What is the original ‘crime’ that required a special council? Right. There was none. It is a hit on DJT pure and simple. No way this ends well. The sore losers will propel this country into irreparable division at the least, civil war at the worst all the while giving Putin exactly what he wanted. Khrushchev would be rolling in laughter in his grave.

Good grief...drop the hyperbole and hair on fire nonsense.

There didn't have to be a crime dude. The main thrust of the special counsel was to investigate Russian meddling in our election.

And no trump, it's not a Special Council...it's a Special Counsel.

You are ignorant of the special COUNCEL law. But you are a good editor.
You can not build an argument on false assumptions from the beginning.

(04-11-2018 09:30 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:14 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Id fire him. Take the political hit. Take the possible House impeachment and go with it. Make your case to the American people and let them decide.

Sounds like something a guilty person would do.

naw.....that's pleading the 5th....

having the balls to do it now is the only option left.....

he tried to play fairly.....

it's now become, "kick him in the cod sack time"

ol' boy picked the fight.....now it's time to see if he'll administer the KO punch.....

Firing Mueller would be the end of his presidency. He'll never do that. He's ignorant, but not that stupid.

(04-11-2018 09:31 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:07 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 01:55 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 01:46 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  No, Mueller sent it to someone else because he didnt want to get skulldrug in front of Judge Emmet Sullivan again, which is where this would have ended up.

You jumped to a false conclusion. It is not a fishing expedition. The Feds had to establish a convincing case that there is reasonable cause to believe a crime has been committed as part of the process for obtaining the warrant. They also had to establish there was cause to believe that SPECIFIC evidence would be found at Cohens business and Apt. Hardly a fishing expedition.

Cohen is a "fixer". Basically an unethical POS and it's now catching up to him. But yeah, Trumps gonna drain the swamp!!!

Not a fishing expedition? Hilarious. What is the original ‘crime’ that required a special council? Right. There was none. It is a hit on DJT pure and simple. No way this ends well. The sore losers will propel this country into irreparable division at the least, civil war at the worst all the while giving Putin exactly what he wanted. Khrushchev would be rolling in laughter in his grave.

Good grief...drop the hyperbole and hair on fire nonsense.

There didn't have to be a crime dude. The main thrust of the special counsel was to investigate Russian meddling in our election.

And no trump, it's not a Special Council...it's a Special Counsel.

You are ignorant of the special COUNCEL law. But you are a good editor.
You can not build an argument on false assumptions from the beginning.

Is that even a word?

Oh...wait...
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=councel

(04-11-2018 09:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 08:39 AM)appst89 Wrote:  It seems witch hunts are okay as long as it's the right witch.

This ridiculous coup attempt just keeps getting more desperate.

Coup attempt...you wouldn't know a coup attempt if it bit you in the ass!

Just when I think you can't get any more ridiculous, you prove me wrong.

Keep supporting that coup Redtom.

(04-11-2018 09:37 AM)appst89 Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 08:39 AM)appst89 Wrote:  It seems witch hunts are okay as long as it's the right witch.

This ridiculous coup attempt just keeps getting more desperate.

Coup attempt...you wouldn't know a coup attempt if it bit you in the ass!

Just when I think you can't get any more ridiculous, you prove me wrong.

Keep supporting that coup Redtom.

You seriously don't know what a coup actually is? Good God.

(04-11-2018 09:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:31 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:07 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 01:55 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  You jumped to a false conclusion. It is not a fishing expedition. The Feds had to establish a convincing case that there is reasonable cause to believe a crime has been committed as part of the process for obtaining the warrant. They also had to establish there was cause to believe that SPECIFIC evidence would be found at Cohens business and Apt. Hardly a fishing expedition.

Cohen is a "fixer". Basically an unethical POS and it's now catching up to him. But yeah, Trumps gonna drain the swamp!!!

Not a fishing expedition? Hilarious. What is the original ‘crime’ that required a special council? Right. There was none. It is a hit on DJT pure and simple. No way this ends well. The sore losers will propel this country into irreparable division at the least, civil war at the worst all the while giving Putin exactly what he wanted. Khrushchev would be rolling in laughter in his grave.

Good grief...drop the hyperbole and hair on fire nonsense.

There didn't have to be a crime dude. The main thrust of the special counsel was to investigate Russian meddling in our election.

And no trump, it's not a Special Council...it's a Special Counsel.

You are ignorant of the special COUNCEL law. But you are a good editor.
You can not build an argument on false assumptions from the beginning.

Is that even a word?

Oh...wait...
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=councel

lmao at the gramm(a)er nazi......yep, this is all ewe.....

(04-11-2018 09:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:37 AM)appst89 Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 08:39 AM)appst89 Wrote:  It seems witch hunts are okay as long as it's the right witch.

This ridiculous coup attempt just keeps getting more desperate.

Coup attempt...you wouldn't know a coup attempt if it bit you in the ass!

Just when I think you can't get any more ridiculous, you prove me wrong.

Keep supporting that coup Redtom.

You seriously don't know what a coup actually is? Good God.

A coup d'état (/ˌkuː deɪˈtɑː/ (About this sound listen); French: [ku deta]), also known simply as a coup, a putsch (/pʊtʃ/), golpe de estado, or an overthrow, is a type of revolution, where the illegal and overt seizure of a state by the military or other elites within the state apparatus occurs.[1]

This is an attempt by the elites within the state apparatus to overthrow the government. It's a coup.

And just stop it with the superiority act. Good God, indeed.

(04-11-2018 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:14 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Id fire him. Take the political hit. Take the possible House impeachment and go with it. Make your case to the American people and let them decide.

Sounds like something a guilty person would do.

Even fellow liberal ODU admits the establishment is out to get Trump. When someone is out to get you, you protect yourself

(04-11-2018 09:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:30 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:14 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Id fire him. Take the political hit. Take the possible House impeachment and go with it. Make your case to the American people and let them decide.

Sounds like something a guilty person would do.

naw.....that's pleading the 5th....

having the balls to do it now is the only option left.....

he tried to play fairly.....

it's now become, "kick him in the cod sack time"

ol' boy picked the fight.....now it's time to see if he'll administer the KO punch.....

Firing Mueller would be the end of his presidency. He'll never do that. He's ignorant, but not that stupid.

Unless there are 67 senators willing to vote to remove him from office, you are wrong.

I don't believe there are

Also do you not realize what a terrible precedent is being set??

Special counsel for presidents will now be the norm. Only the Clinton types are going to run which would be awful for our country

(04-11-2018 09:58 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:30 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:14 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Id fire him. Take the political hit. Take the possible House impeachment and go with it. Make your case to the American people and let them decide.

Sounds like something a guilty person would do.

naw.....that's pleading the 5th....

having the balls to do it now is the only option left.....

he tried to play fairly.....

it's now become, "kick him in the cod sack time"

ol' boy picked the fight.....now it's time to see if he'll administer the KO punch.....

Firing Mueller would be the end of his presidency. He'll never do that. He's ignorant, but not that stupid.

Unless there are 67 senators willing to vote to remove him from office, you are wrong.

I don't believe there are

XACLY!

(04-11-2018 10:00 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Also do you not realize what a terrible precedent is being set??

Special counsel for presidents will now be the norm. Only the Clinton types are going to run which would be awful for our country

Really. Everyone realizes now (I think even Ken Star), that the Clinton special prosecutor was too far reaching.

I also don't like the idea of a law enforcement agency thinking it answers to no one but themselves. That is dangerous.

All Ill say is Dershowitz has forgotten more about the law than most of the legal "scholars" will ever learn. Ill leave it there.

(04-11-2018 09:58 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:30 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 09:14 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Id fire him. Take the political hit. Take the possible House impeachment and go with it. Make your case to the American people and let them decide.

Sounds like something a guilty person would do.

naw.....that's pleading the 5th....

having the balls to do it now is the only option left.....

he tried to play fairly.....

it's now become, "kick him in the cod sack time"

ol' boy picked the fight.....now it's time to see if he'll administer the KO punch.....

Firing Mueller would be the end of his presidency. He'll never do that. He's ignorant, but not that stupid.

Unless there are 67 senators willing to vote to remove him from office, you are wrong.

I don't believe there are

I was not implying the end of his presidency necessarily meant removal via impeachment...sorry for the confusion. I meant more that he would cease to be able to accomplish anything as the American people and congress would render him useless.

(04-11-2018 10:00 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Also do you not realize what a terrible precedent is being set??

Special counsel for presidents will now be the norm. Only the Clinton types are going to run which would be awful for our country

No, they won't. It's a high bar to convene a Special Counsel on a president. Keep in mind that again, the Special Counsel here was not convened to go after trump.

(04-11-2018 11:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  All Ill say is Dershowitz has forgotten more about the law than most of the legal "scholars" will ever learn. Ill leave it there.

That's totally fine as long as he sticks to the law. However, that in no way excuses him from being chastised for moronic takes like this:

"If this were Hillary Clinton being investigated and they went into her lawyer's office, the ACLU would be on every television station in America, jumping up and down," he added.

(04-11-2018 11:18 AM)bullet Wrote:  I also don't like the idea of a law enforcement agency thinking it answers to no one but themselves. That is dangerous.

And a president thinking he is above the law is what then?

(04-11-2018 11:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 11:18 AM)bullet Wrote:  I also don't like the idea of a law enforcement agency thinking it answers to no one but themselves. That is dangerous.

And a president thinking he is above the law is what then?

Not above the law.

(04-11-2018 11:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 11:18 AM)bullet Wrote:  I also don't like the idea of a law enforcement agency thinking it answers to no one but themselves. That is dangerous.

And a president thinking he is above the law is what then?

Technical point. Uniformed police enforce the law. Investigators look into possible violations of law.