(04-09-2018 12:31 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  ECU is #9 in the Coaches poll now that was just released.

Collegiate Baseball is really a joke but I included them just to be fair I guess. They drop ECU a spot for going 4 of 5 this past week including a cross continental series win @ Washington and midweek wins over 2 quality ball clubs. Meanwhile, UNC (a team we dominated) catapults past us from #30 to #12 even though they lost to an unranked Miami team yesterday that has a lower RPI than Washington. Also, Illinois moves ahead of us after only taking 2 of 3 against Maryland (a team we destroyed all 3 games against). Moreover, Texas & Michigan jump from outside the top 30 to rise above us. I know that poll doesn't really matter but they are super biased against ECU for some reason.

Ain’t that the one with close ties to UNC?


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(04-09-2018 01:37 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 12:39 PM)DowdyPirate2 Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 12:31 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  ECU is #9 in the Coaches poll now that was just released.

Collegiate Baseball is really a joke but I included them just to be fair I guess. They drop ECU a spot for going 4 of 5 this past week including a cross continental series win @ Washington and midweek wins over 2 quality ball clubs. Meanwhile, UNC (a team we dominated) catapults past us from #30 to #12 even though they lost to an unranked Miami team yesterday that has a lower RPI than Washington. Also, Illinois moves ahead of us after only taking 2 of 3 against Maryland (a team we destroyed all 3 games against). Moreover, Texas & Michigan jump from outside the top 30 to rise above us. I know that poll doesn't really matter but they are super biased against ECU for some reason.

Duke at number 4 in CBN is a complete joke

Can someone explain our scheduling to me?

Why do we have a single game against Dook, at their place and then a single game against NCSUx, again at their place?

Contracts I would guess. I actually thought this was going to refer to the Washington series. That was due to (an apparently low fry school) double booking and we getting the short end of the stick for their mistake.


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(04-10-2018 12:23 PM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 01:16 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  I saw this somewhere else but think about it...

If we keep up the trajectory we are on we could be hosting a regional with UNC as the #2 and having to come here this time.

There is no "could be", if we stay on the same track we are hosting and will get a National Seed. Win the Regional and we'll be hosting a Super Regional. Our fate is in our hands at this point.

Long ways to go though. This is a tough conference.

Edit: I see you meant we could be hosting UNC. My bad.

Just a reminder that all hosts get national seeds now. If you mean a top 8 seed then say Top 8 :)


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(04-10-2018 12:21 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 09:21 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  It's been a long hill to climb due to ECU starting off the season with very little hype but the Pirates have finally cracked the top 10 while WSU is a top 20 team. Now we need others to move into the rankings.

USA Today Coaches Poll
http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/bas...ches-poll/

#9 ECU
#20 WSU
#38 UCF
#48 UCONN


D1 Baseball
https://d1baseball.com/rankings/d1baseba...s-april-9/

#7 ECU
#20 WSU

Baseball America
https://www.baseballamerica.com/rankings...ll-top-25/

#8 ECU

NCBWA
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d1/ncbwa

#11 ECU
#20 WSU
Also Receiving Votes: UCONN, UCF, & USF

Perfect Game
https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/Vie...icle=15085

#16 ECU

Collegiate Baseball
http://baseballnews.com/collegiate-baseb...ll-4-9-18/

#19 ECU
#30 WSU

Current RPI
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d1/rpi

#9 ECU
#15 WSU
#19 UCONN
#54 USF
#64 UCF
#130 Tulane
#139 UH
#192 Cincy
#228 Memphis

Just updated to include RPI. Several things stand out. For one, I didn't realize UCONN's RPI was that high. They still have time to make some noise. Also, I know it's early but it's interesting that both UH & Cincy are tied with ECU for the best conference winning percentage although they represent 2 of the bottom 3 RPI's in the league. Both having played and swept Memphis has a lot to do with that but both teams will be halfway through the conference season after this weekend.

ECU & WSU look to be in good shape. With UCONN's high RPI they also appear to be in fairly good shape. USF & UCF have work to do but they're easily capable of it with a little more consistency, considering where they stand RPI wise. UH could still make a run at an at-large bid but has to really play well down the stretch with such a low RPI. It would almost take a miracle for Tulane to turn it around with their win-loss record right now & a miracle couldn't even save Memphis at this point.

Cincy is an anomaly to me. When I look at their schedule it doesn't look that bad but somehow their RPI is so low. I know it's just one game but I see they even have a W over top 10 Indiana, they beat Cal earlier in the year as well, and here they sit atop the conference standings almost halfway through. It'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out down the stretch.

American Conference Standings
https://d1baseball.com/conference/americ...onference/

Concerning RPI, arguably too much merit is given to playing on the road and neutral sites to benefit schools like UCONN (northern) so RPI can be utilized to support northern bubble teams getting the nod. UCONN never even had a home game till a week & a half ago so that skews the RPI.

In that same vein, regionals have often been spread out geographically and in some cases northern schools have hosted regionals as a 2 seed. Hopefully seeding 1-16 will remedy some of that this year. IMHO, not only does RPI put too much of an emphasis on road/neutral games but it also lends excessive credence upon what opponents do. Additionally, it fails to penalize losing sufficiently. All that said, UCONN will have the opportunity to prove itself.

(04-10-2018 07:20 PM)B easy Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 12:21 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(04-09-2018 09:21 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  It's been a long hill to climb due to ECU starting off the season with very little hype but the Pirates have finally cracked the top 10 while WSU is a top 20 team. Now we need others to move into the rankings.

USA Today Coaches Poll
http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/bas...ches-poll/

#9 ECU
#20 WSU
#38 UCF
#48 UCONN


D1 Baseball
https://d1baseball.com/rankings/d1baseba...s-april-9/

#7 ECU
#20 WSU

Baseball America
https://www.baseballamerica.com/rankings...ll-top-25/

#8 ECU

NCBWA
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d1/ncbwa

#11 ECU
#20 WSU
Also Receiving Votes: UCONN, UCF, & USF

Perfect Game
https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/Vie...icle=15085

#16 ECU

Collegiate Baseball
http://baseballnews.com/collegiate-baseb...ll-4-9-18/

#19 ECU
#30 WSU

Current RPI
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/baseball/d1/rpi

#9 ECU
#15 WSU
#19 UCONN
#54 USF
#64 UCF
#130 Tulane
#139 UH
#192 Cincy
#228 Memphis

Just updated to include RPI. Several things stand out. For one, I didn't realize UCONN's RPI was that high. They still have time to make some noise. Also, I know it's early but it's interesting that both UH & Cincy are tied with ECU for the best conference winning percentage although they represent 2 of the bottom 3 RPI's in the league. Both having played and swept Memphis has a lot to do with that but both teams will be halfway through the conference season after this weekend.

ECU & WSU look to be in good shape. With UCONN's high RPI they also appear to be in fairly good shape. USF & UCF have work to do but they're easily capable of it with a little more consistency, considering where they stand RPI wise. UH could still make a run at an at-large bid but has to really play well down the stretch with such a low RPI. It would almost take a miracle for Tulane to turn it around with their win-loss record right now & a miracle couldn't even save Memphis at this point.

Cincy is an anomaly to me. When I look at their schedule it doesn't look that bad but somehow their RPI is so low. I know it's just one game but I see they even have a W over top 10 Indiana, they beat Cal earlier in the year as well, and here they sit atop the conference standings almost halfway through. It'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out down the stretch.

American Conference Standings
https://d1baseball.com/conference/americ...onference/

Concerning RPI, arguably too much merit is given to playing on the road and neutral sites to benefit schools like UCONN (northern) so RPI can be utilized to support northern bubble teams getting the nod. UCONN never even had a home game till a week & a half ago so that skews the RPI.

In that same vein, regionals have often been spread out geographically and in some cases northern schools have hosted regionals as a 2 seed. Hopefully seeding 1-16 will remedy some of that this year. IMHO, RPI puts too much of an emphasis on road/neutral games and it lends excessive credence upon what opponents do. Additionally, it fails to penalize losing sufficiently. All that said, UCONN will have the opportunity to prove itself.

LOL. Couldn't disagree more with any of that nonsense.

(04-10-2018 07:20 PM)B easy Wrote:  Concerning RPI, arguably too much merit is given to playing on the road and neutral sites to benefit schools like UCONN (northern) so RPI can be utilized to support northern bubble teams getting the nod. UCONN never even had a home game till a week & a half ago so that skews the RPI.

In that same vein, regionals have often been spread out geographically and in some cases northern schools have hosted regionals as a 2 seed. Hopefully seeding 1-16 will remedy some of that this year. IMHO, not only does RPI put too much of an emphasis on road/neutral games but it also lends excessive credence upon what opponents do. Additionally, it fails to penalize losing sufficiently. All that said, UCONN will have the opportunity to prove itself.

Here's part of the NCAA's reasoning on RPI and weighting home/road wins:

The revised RPI formula will value each road victory as 1.3 instead of 1.0. Each home win will be valued at 0.7 instead of 1.0. Conversely, each home loss will count 1.3 against a team’s RPI and each road loss will count 0.7 against a team’s RPI. Neutral-site games will retain the same value of 1.0, but the committee is studying how to determine if a game should be considered a neutral-site contest. The weighting is based on data showing that home teams win about 62 percent of the time in Division I baseball.
https://www.ncaa.com/news/baseball/2011-...013-season

What really seems wrong with RPI is a team's W/L record only counts 25%. Opponents' and opponents' opponents' SOS is fully 75% of RPI. Lot's of other problems with RPI.
Good article about this

According to Jim Wright, the NCAA Director of Statistics, RPI is only one selection factor.
If a committee member is evaluating two or more teams, a wide difference in RPI rank can be a factor. How “wide” is “wide”? A good rule of thumb is 20 or more ranking places, as well as the actual mathematical difference between RPI rankings.
FREQUENTLY-ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BASEBALL RATING PERCENTAGE INDEX

RPI is a mathematical formula not subject to human bias, although it can't factor out things like regional bias. Its overly heavy dependence on opponents' SOS allows teams' RPI to rise when they loose to a good team and fall when they beat a bad team. It is a bad model for every sport in which it is used.

While 17-10 is middle of the pack, 2 things helping UConn's RPI are 84% of their games have been on the road so far, and their SOS is currently 60.

With all that said, Go Huskies