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RE: Augustana moving to Division I?
(08-04-2018 10:55 AM)NoQuestion Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 06:53 AM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 06:33 AM)NoDak Wrote:  There is at least one former Montana fb coach that is clearly disappointed with the Big Sky and its California approach. Mick Delaney just said in an interview that the Montanas should have joined with the four Dakotas and Idaho and had their own division. That flies in the face of what the Montana posters and their Big Sky sycophants have said. Delaney is much more connected than anybody on this board and he’s a former AD. But I guess I’m just an idiot too.

https://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/...804309002/

I thought people aren’t publicly allowed to comment on the Great Northern? That’s one guys opinion on what they SHOULD have done, not what will happen.

Following NoDak logic. Wouldn't this mean that a 2 division set-up is a done deal? Bad news for the GNC.
Following your pseudo-logic then, Texas A&M would have never joined the SEC to get away from Texas, even though they were offered a spot along with Houston nearly 20 years earlier. Sometimes it takes time to realize your mistakes.
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RE: Augustana moving to Division I?
(08-04-2018 10:29 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 09:57 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  If an old NCC member is going to be reunited with the Dakota 4 and Omaha in the Summit it's going to be Northern Colorado or among the trio of Minnesota-Duluth, St Cloud St, or Minnesota St.

Northern Colorado would bring a 6th football program and put the Summit in a position to take over the MVFC as a conference sport. They'd also be a travel partner for Denver.

Adding the first two Minnesota schools gives the Summit 5 of the 8 NCHC schools and would also put the Summit in a position to sponsor hockey in-house.

The Dakota 4, Omaha, and Denver make up 2/3rds of the Summit membership. If either or both of these routes are appealing to them then they can pursue them despite what the other 3 want.

Augustana really has nothing to offer

Aren't most conference decisions dependent upon a 75% supermajority? If the Summit is like that, they'd need a 7th member to agree.

Northern Colorado joining the Summit and the non-Summit MVFC schools becoming football affiliates is not necessarily likely, but certainly more likely than the "Great Northern" (although that's not saying much). If it did happen, which football school would be in the west for scheduling purposes, UNI or Missouri State? Missouri State is technically farther west, but UNI is closer to the Dakota schools.
Have long said that ORU would vote for it, as they are paid pawns for realignment, having been granted free readmittance to the Summit if they did what was required for a free invite to the WAC. An eventual free slot in the WAC will be given free when they invite their football schools too as a travel partner of UMKC. 7 of 9 Summit schools is 77%. Thought PUFW would be gone by July 1st, making the vote 6 of 7 as UND didn’t not have a vote yet.
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RE: Augustana moving to Division I?
(08-04-2018 11:00 AM)NoDak Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 10:55 AM)NoQuestion Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 06:53 AM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 06:33 AM)NoDak Wrote:  There is at least one former Montana fb coach that is clearly disappointed with the Big Sky and its California approach. Mick Delaney just said in an interview that the Montanas should have joined with the four Dakotas and Idaho and had their own division. That flies in the face of what the Montana posters and their Big Sky sycophants have said. Delaney is much more connected than anybody on this board and he’s a former AD. But I guess I’m just an idiot too.

https://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/...804309002/

I thought people aren’t publicly allowed to comment on the Great Northern? That’s one guys opinion on what they SHOULD have done, not what will happen.

Following NoDak logic. Wouldn't this mean that a 2 division set-up is a done deal? Bad news for the GNC.
Following your pseudo-logic then, Texas A&M would have never joined the SEC to get away from Texas, even though they were offered a spot along with Houston nearly 20 years earlier. Sometimes it takes time to realize your mistakes.

Where in that interview did he say?

"the Montanas should have joined with the four Dakotas and Idaho and had their own division."

The important part

Quote:I think, would have been a great fit way back then. But it didn’t happen that way. I think they’ve got to try to work toward somehow having two divisions. Get another school and make it 14 and then have two divisions so there’s a champion on each side. Those are just a few thoughts I throw out there.
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RE: Augustana moving to Division I?
(08-04-2018 11:08 AM)NoDak Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 10:29 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 09:57 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  If an old NCC member is going to be reunited with the Dakota 4 and Omaha in the Summit it's going to be Northern Colorado or among the trio of Minnesota-Duluth, St Cloud St, or Minnesota St.

Northern Colorado would bring a 6th football program and put the Summit in a position to take over the MVFC as a conference sport. They'd also be a travel partner for Denver.

Adding the first two Minnesota schools gives the Summit 5 of the 8 NCHC schools and would also put the Summit in a position to sponsor hockey in-house.

The Dakota 4, Omaha, and Denver make up 2/3rds of the Summit membership. If either or both of these routes are appealing to them then they can pursue them despite what the other 3 want.

Augustana really has nothing to offer

Aren't most conference decisions dependent upon a 75% supermajority? If the Summit is like that, they'd need a 7th member to agree.

Northern Colorado joining the Summit and the non-Summit MVFC schools becoming football affiliates is not necessarily likely, but certainly more likely than the "Great Northern" (although that's not saying much). If it did happen, which football school would be in the west for scheduling purposes, UNI or Missouri State? Missouri State is technically farther west, but UNI is closer to the Dakota schools.
Have long said that ORU would vote for it, as they are paid pawns for realignment, having been granted free readmittance to the Summit if they did what was required for a free invite to the WAC. An eventual free slot in the WAC will be given free when they invite their football schools too as a travel partner of UMKC 7 of 9 Summit schools is 77%. Thought PUFW would be gone by July 1st, making the vote 6 of 7.

Great tin foil hat stuff. Are you enjoying your last month here?
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RE: Augustana moving to Division I?
(08-04-2018 11:11 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 11:08 AM)NoDak Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 10:29 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 09:57 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  If an old NCC member is going to be reunited with the Dakota 4 and Omaha in the Summit it's going to be Northern Colorado or among the trio of Minnesota-Duluth, St Cloud St, or Minnesota St.

Northern Colorado would bring a 6th football program and put the Summit in a position to take over the MVFC as a conference sport. They'd also be a travel partner for Denver.

Adding the first two Minnesota schools gives the Summit 5 of the 8 NCHC schools and would also put the Summit in a position to sponsor hockey in-house.

The Dakota 4, Omaha, and Denver make up 2/3rds of the Summit membership. If either or both of these routes are appealing to them then they can pursue them despite what the other 3 want.

Augustana really has nothing to offer

Aren't most conference decisions dependent upon a 75% supermajority? If the Summit is like that, they'd need a 7th member to agree.

Northern Colorado joining the Summit and the non-Summit MVFC schools becoming football affiliates is not necessarily likely, but certainly more likely than the "Great Northern" (although that's not saying much). If it did happen, which football school would be in the west for scheduling purposes, UNI or Missouri State? Missouri State is technically farther west, but UNI is closer to the Dakota schools.
Have long said that ORU would vote for it, as they are paid pawns for realignment, having been granted free readmittance to the Summit if they did what was required for a free invite to the WAC. An eventual free slot in the WAC will be given free when they invite their football schools too as a travel partner of UMKC 7 of 9 Summit schools is 77%. Thought PUFW would be gone by July 1st, making the vote 6 of 7.

Great tin foil hat stuff. Are you enjoying your last month here?

Have been begged for almost years to show someone credible who agrees with me. When I do, thought some actual light bulbs would go off. But nada.

This board is so incredibly dull that I won’t miss the loss of IQ points by posting because my postings will go way down even when it happens.
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RE: Augustana moving to Division I?
(08-04-2018 11:47 AM)NoDak Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 11:11 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 11:08 AM)NoDak Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 10:29 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 09:57 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  If an old NCC member is going to be reunited with the Dakota 4 and Omaha in the Summit it's going to be Northern Colorado or among the trio of Minnesota-Duluth, St Cloud St, or Minnesota St.

Northern Colorado would bring a 6th football program and put the Summit in a position to take over the MVFC as a conference sport. They'd also be a travel partner for Denver.

Adding the first two Minnesota schools gives the Summit 5 of the 8 NCHC schools and would also put the Summit in a position to sponsor hockey in-house.

The Dakota 4, Omaha, and Denver make up 2/3rds of the Summit membership. If either or both of these routes are appealing to them then they can pursue them despite what the other 3 want.

Augustana really has nothing to offer

Aren't most conference decisions dependent upon a 75% supermajority? If the Summit is like that, they'd need a 7th member to agree.

Northern Colorado joining the Summit and the non-Summit MVFC schools becoming football affiliates is not necessarily likely, but certainly more likely than the "Great Northern" (although that's not saying much). If it did happen, which football school would be in the west for scheduling purposes, UNI or Missouri State? Missouri State is technically farther west, but UNI is closer to the Dakota schools.
Have long said that ORU would vote for it, as they are paid pawns for realignment, having been granted free readmittance to the Summit if they did what was required for a free invite to the WAC. An eventual free slot in the WAC will be given free when they invite their football schools too as a travel partner of UMKC 7 of 9 Summit schools is 77%. Thought PUFW would be gone by July 1st, making the vote 6 of 7.

Great tin foil hat stuff. Are you enjoying your last month here?

Have been begged for almost years to show someone credible who agrees with me. When I do, thought some actual light bulbs would go off. But nada.

This board is so incredibly dull that I won’t miss the loss of IQ points by posting because my postings will go way down even when it happens.

Per the article you linked, Delaney said he thought it would have been a good idea to put to the Dakotas in the Big Sky. However, he did not say that it's actually happening, nor that your FBS Summit/Great Northern/WAC/ASUN nonsense is happening.

Given how much of a genius you are, it's strange that you would have stuck around this board for 13 years. I guess you've just been nobly attempting to enlighten all us heathens with your unparalleled wisdom this whole time. It's such a shame that we'll be losing a real prize like yourself in... exactly 28 days. Truly a shame. 07-coffee3
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RE: Augustana moving to Division I?
(08-04-2018 11:10 AM)NoQuestion Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 11:00 AM)NoDak Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 10:55 AM)NoQuestion Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 06:53 AM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 06:33 AM)NoDak Wrote:  There is at least one former Montana fb coach that is clearly disappointed with the Big Sky and its California approach. Mick Delaney just said in an interview that the Montanas should have joined with the four Dakotas and Idaho and had their own division. That flies in the face of what the Montana posters and their Big Sky sycophants have said. Delaney is much more connected than anybody on this board and he’s a former AD. But I guess I’m just an idiot too.

https://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/...804309002/

I thought people aren’t publicly allowed to comment on the Great Northern? That’s one guys opinion on what they SHOULD have done, not what will happen.

Following NoDak logic. Wouldn't this mean that a 2 division set-up is a done deal? Bad news for the GNC.
Following your pseudo-logic then, Texas A&M would have never joined the SEC to get away from Texas, even though they were offered a spot along with Houston nearly 20 years earlier. Sometimes it takes time to realize your mistakes.

Where in that interview did he say?

"the Montanas should have joined with the four Dakotas and Idaho and had their own division."

The important part

Quote:I think, would have been a great fit way back then. But it didn’t happen that way. I think they’ve got to try to work toward somehow having two divisions. Get another school and make it 14 and then have two divisions so there’s a champion on each side. Those are just a few thoughts I throw out there.


Central Washington, Dixie State, Colorado Mesa or Azusa Pacific as number 14? Those are the 4 that could make a move to D1. North/South is 6/8. East/west icould be 7/7 splitting Idaho and Idaho State in separate divisions.
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RE: Augustana moving to Division I?
(08-04-2018 12:11 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 11:47 AM)NoDak Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 11:11 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 11:08 AM)NoDak Wrote:  
(08-04-2018 10:29 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Aren't most conference decisions dependent upon a 75% supermajority? If the Summit is like that, they'd need a 7th member to agree.

Northern Colorado joining the Summit and the non-Summit MVFC schools becoming football affiliates is not necessarily likely, but certainly more likely than the "Great Northern" (although that's not saying much). If it did happen, which football school would be in the west for scheduling purposes, UNI or Missouri State? Missouri State is technically farther west, but UNI is closer to the Dakota schools.
Have long said that ORU would vote for it, as they are paid pawns for realignment, having been granted free readmittance to the Summit if they did what was required for a free invite to the WAC. An eventual free slot in the WAC will be given free when they invite their football schools too as a travel partner of UMKC 7 of 9 Summit schools is 77%. Thought PUFW would be gone by July 1st, making the vote 6 of 7.

Great tin foil hat stuff. Are you enjoying your last month here?

Have been begged for almost years to show someone credible who agrees with me. When I do, thought some actual light bulbs would go off. But nada.

This board is so incredibly dull that I won’t miss the loss of IQ points by posting because my postings will go way down even when it happens.

Per the article you linked, Delaney said he thought it would have been a good idea to put to the Dakotas in the Big Sky. However, he did not say that it's actually happening, nor that your FBS Summit/Great Northern/WAC/ASUN nonsense is happening.

Given how much of a genius you are, it's strange that you would have stuck around this board for 13 years. I guess you've just been nobly attempting to enlighten all us heathens with your unparalleled wisdom this whole time. It's such a shame that we'll be losing a real prize like yourself in... exactly 28 days. Truly a shame. 07-coffee3
Given that Idaho left 20 years ago, he’s isn’t so much regretting the past, but projecting with them aboard. He was very gracious not to slam Portland St (which plays most fb games in a Hillsboro HS stadium as a pro women’s soccer team has precedence there) and Sacramento St (which still doesn’t have an arena of more than 1000 ever since they moved up). He only took an indirect shot at Cal St-Northridge, which dropped fb and left the conference. Very AD-esque of him.

You are right that he’s not projecting it because the “other” division would be mainly slop. Only Weber St stands out for fans and facilities. He’s laying out the fact that the Dakotas and Idaho are almost the only ones worthy of associating with.
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