(04-02-2018 04:57 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 04:09 PM)McKinney Wrote:  What indicates that AAC is a "power conference"? I see them in basketball as I see them in football. The best mid-major conference.

No conference with Tulane in it can claim to be major in basketball.

Tulane has at least as many Tournament wins as Northwestern and Nebraska.

(04-02-2018 08:51 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 05:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 04:42 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 04:09 PM)McKinney Wrote:  What indicates that AAC is a "power conference"? I see them in basketball as I see them in football. The best mid-major conference.

Individuals can have their own definitions, but based on media promoted terms, the AAC is a major conference.

In its five years as a non-AQ conference, AAC basketball has never finished higher than 7th in conference RPI, meaning it has never finished above any of the true 6 basketball power conferences.

And they certainly haven't been accorded the respect of a power conference by the tournament selection committee.

Sorry, but as in football, AAC hoops is just the best of the non-power basketball leagues.

What do you call having a #2, #4, #6 seed in the tournament this season?

A mistake? AAC proved this year that they probably should have been a 2 bid league at most and a 2 bid league isn't a power league.

(04-02-2018 08:51 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 05:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 04:42 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 04:09 PM)McKinney Wrote:  What indicates that AAC is a "power conference"? I see them in basketball as I see them in football. The best mid-major conference.

Individuals can have their own definitions, but based on media promoted terms, the AAC is a major conference.

In its five years as a non-AQ conference, AAC basketball has never finished higher than 7th in conference RPI, meaning it has never finished above any of the true 6 basketball power conferences.

And they certainly haven't been accorded the respect of a power conference by the tournament selection committee.

Sorry, but as in football, AAC hoops is just the best of the non-power basketball leagues.

What do you call having a #2, #4, #6 seed in the tournament this season?

I see where you're coming from, I really do. Perhaps there needs to be a new official designation for conferences that are multi-bid but not autonomous?

(04-02-2018 08:51 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 05:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 04:42 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 04:09 PM)McKinney Wrote:  What indicates that AAC is a "power conference"? I see them in basketball as I see them in football. The best mid-major conference.

Individuals can have their own definitions, but based on media promoted terms, the AAC is a major conference.

In its five years as a non-AQ conference, AAC basketball has never finished higher than 7th in conference RPI, meaning it has never finished above any of the true 6 basketball power conferences.

And they certainly haven't been accorded the respect of a power conference by the tournament selection committee.

Sorry, but as in football, AAC hoops is just the best of the non-power basketball leagues.

What do you call having a #2, #4, #6 seed in the tournament this season?

Not being a power league?

(04-02-2018 11:19 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 08:51 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 05:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 04:42 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 04:09 PM)McKinney Wrote:  What indicates that AAC is a "power conference"? I see them in basketball as I see them in football. The best mid-major conference.

Individuals can have their own definitions, but based on media promoted terms, the AAC is a major conference.

In its five years as a non-AQ conference, AAC basketball has never finished higher than 7th in conference RPI, meaning it has never finished above any of the true 6 basketball power conferences.

And they certainly haven't been accorded the respect of a power conference by the tournament selection committee.

Sorry, but as in football, AAC hoops is just the best of the non-power basketball leagues.

What do you call having a #2, #4, #6 seed in the tournament this season?

Not being a power league?

That was a strong show of respect by the committee.

What the A10 was served with a #7, #11, #12 seed was not.

If only the AAC could send a team to the second weekend.

(04-02-2018 11:22 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 11:19 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 08:51 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 05:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 04:42 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  Individuals can have their own definitions, but based on media promoted terms, the AAC is a major conference.

In its five years as a non-AQ conference, AAC basketball has never finished higher than 7th in conference RPI, meaning it has never finished above any of the true 6 basketball power conferences.

And they certainly haven't been accorded the respect of a power conference by the tournament selection committee.

Sorry, but as in football, AAC hoops is just the best of the non-power basketball leagues.

What do you call having a #2, #4, #6 seed in the tournament this season?

Not being a power league?

That was a strong show of respect by the committee.

What the A10 was served with a #7, #11, #12 seed was not.

Fair point - the AAC was showed respect by the committee this year.

But that still puts them far away from being one of the Power leagues, either in terms of status or on-court results.

(04-02-2018 11:22 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 11:19 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 08:51 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 05:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 04:42 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  Individuals can have their own definitions, but based on media promoted terms, the AAC is a major conference.

In its five years as a non-AQ conference, AAC basketball has never finished higher than 7th in conference RPI, meaning it has never finished above any of the true 6 basketball power conferences.

And they certainly haven't been accorded the respect of a power conference by the tournament selection committee.

Sorry, but as in football, AAC hoops is just the best of the non-power basketball leagues.

What do you call having a #2, #4, #6 seed in the tournament this season?

Not being a power league?

That was a strong show of respect by the committee.

What the A10 was served with a #7, #11, #12 seed was not.

Let's hope the committee learns from its mistakes.

(04-02-2018 11:01 PM)CurveItAround Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 08:51 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 05:18 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 04:42 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 04:09 PM)McKinney Wrote:  What indicates that AAC is a "power conference"? I see them in basketball as I see them in football. The best mid-major conference.

Individuals can have their own definitions, but based on media promoted terms, the AAC is a major conference.

In its five years as a non-AQ conference, AAC basketball has never finished higher than 7th in conference RPI, meaning it has never finished above any of the true 6 basketball power conferences.

And they certainly haven't been accorded the respect of a power conference by the tournament selection committee.

Sorry, but as in football, AAC hoops is just the best of the non-power basketball leagues.

What do you call having a #2, #4, #6 seed in the tournament this season?

A mistake? AAC proved this year that they probably should have been a 2 bid league at most and a 2 bid league isn't a power league.

Does North Texas even have a basketball team? GTFOH.

(04-02-2018 03:02 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 02:17 PM)McKinney Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 08:21 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I disagree with everything going back to Texas Western. UConn? They were an established national power in 2014. Would be like if Duke left the ACC for the Sun Belt next year and won the title.

Well that's an interesting notion. If a non-power conference school can be a power-school, can a power conference school be a non-power school?

For example let's say Northwestern (who's had exactly one NCAA bid in their entire history) goes and wins the title next year. Is that a non-power win? Or because they're a B1G member is that a power win?

40 years ago, yes. Today? It's not possible imo. We obviously saw the fluctuations as many power schools had 0-3 NCAA Tournament appearances into the modern era. Florida had basically no basketball history as recently as 25 years ago as Lon Kruger made them relevant.

But football became everything and elevated all members of certain conferences. In the 80's and earlier, you were just as relevant if good in basketball as those in good in football.

Good point. Miami didn’t have a basketball team until recently.
Not a power team, they didn’t have a basketball team at all when UNLV was champ

Miami didn't have football from 1972-1985.

(04-03-2018 07:49 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Miami didn't have football from 1972-1985.

??? They won the 1980 Peach Bowl, won the 1983 Orange Bowl, lost the 1984 Fiesta Bowl, and lost the 1985 Sugar Bowl.

Sorry, basketball.