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(04-03-2018 02:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  What was sold to Russia was rights. Not material. And it's not weapons grade material regardless. Not to mention that Russia already has more than enough of the weapons making material, as well as stockpiled weapons already ready to fire.
yes... and of course they don't know how to turn rights into material or ore into weapons grade material... and it begs the question, if they already have so much, why do they need more?

Maybe if we had turned them down and their intentions been 'good' they would have scuttled some of their stockpiles for civilian use? Urnaium hexafloride CAN be converted back to uranium oxide.... probably a lot cheaper (especially in light of your next comment) than mining it.


Quote:Couple that with the guy who donated all the money long abandoning all his interests around the deal, and you have exactly what I said, NOTHING!
The Facts on Uranium One

So you're saying that we knew in advance that the rights were worthless?

C'mon Tom. You don't measure something like this on things you obviously didn't know at the time.

Quote:Additionally, on the whole, the "left" did not blame Russia for the Hillary loss. That's little more than a trump talking point for his minions.
This is an article from the largest newspaper in a county where Hillary won 72% of the vote in a state where she won 62%... and while Hillary isn't the left 'on the whole', she DOES represent a significant portion of them.... and the article was 5/2/2017 and not 'in the heat of the moment' after the election.

“If the election had been on Oct. 27, I would be your president,” Clinton said at the Women for Women event in New York. But she said FBI director James Comey’s letter to Congress announcing that he had reopened his investigation into Clinton’s email practices, combined with the damage Russian hackers inflicted through their disclosure of campaign emails, raised just enough doubt in the minds of voters to cost her the election.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/washingt...story.html


We can debate whether or not this is 30%, 50% of 80% of 'the left', but the idea that this is a Trump talking point is pretty obviously nothing more than an "anti-Trump' talking point.

Seriously, you're making it almost impossible to agree with you that this wasn't a big deal by all of the (mostly false) red herrings you're throwing out as justification.

It was rights to mine uranium, not actual uranium.
They already had nukes so what's a few more?

The justification for a deal like this (if there is some) is that it is standard business practices and other governments have done similar transactions with them.

unless they haven't, in which case it IS a RELATIVELY big deal.

Didn't they recently deploy a chemical weapon in the UK? It doesn't have to be 'weapons grade' (as if they don't also posses the ability to turn it IN to weapons grade which is how they got them in the first place) in order for it to be used as a dirty bomb.

Argue it's 'business as usual' all you want... but argue THAT, not THIS.
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(04-03-2018 04:03 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(04-03-2018 03:56 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(04-03-2018 03:54 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(04-03-2018 08:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(04-02-2018 05:59 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Yeah... the left doesn't have any of those, do they.... most of the recent ones about the same people.

Tell you what, I'll play.... when they do an investigation like they have with the election and come back with that response, I'll accept it... lol

Sure the left does this, but what does that have to do with anything? Two wrongs never make a right. This was still never an issue and I'm pretty sure you know that. Regardless, there's nothing to investigate, and certainly NOTHING like what Mueller is investigating. To suggest otherwise is downright crazy.

Guess we'll find out. Cause they're investigating it! COGS

Who is?

DOJ, led by IG Huber. It'll be one part of what he delves in to, so I guess we'll find out about any potential "irregularities" here soon enough.

Might be time to buckle!





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Huber is investigating Uranium One?
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(04-02-2018 10:00 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-02-2018 09:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(04-02-2018 08:38 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-02-2018 08:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-30-2018 12:15 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  All of which pretty much means nothing.
Do you really believe that if Hillary let it be known through back channels that she wanted to deal to go through, that any of the nine would ave been willing to risk being Vince Fostered? What better way to give cover than to have over folks do the actual voting. Do you really think they voted independently? Really?
And if the guy who gave the money did it to curry favor for the deal, do you really think that goes away if he leaves the deal? For that matter it takes a whole lot less imagination to figure out ways he could have benefitted from the deal than it does to figure out how the circumstantial evidence to date links Trump to any collusion with Russia to hijack the 2016 election.
Dude, you used to be a credible poster. Now you're bordering on precipice of the ignore feature. Wow...just wow.
Do you really believe that Hillary couldn't and didn't influence the vote?
So what...she likely supported the deal, as did most, because it was fricking harmless and in now way corrupt. To imply that she had something to do with Foster's suicide and that she would do it again for this deal, is in a word, insane. You're better than that.
No, I'm not, and never was. Sorry to burst your "credible poster" bubble. It's not like a give a care what you think.

By the way, just to be clear, back when you thought of me as a "credible poster," I would have posted exactly the same comments.

I have never believed that Vince Foster was a suicide, nor that Seth Rich was killed in a robbery attempt. And there's nothing insane about questioning two killings where the official explanations don't seem to fit the facts.
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RE: That's Right!
(04-05-2018 02:44 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-02-2018 10:00 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-02-2018 09:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(04-02-2018 08:38 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-02-2018 08:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Dude, you used to be a credible poster. Now you're bordering on precipice of the ignore feature. Wow...just wow.
Do you really believe that Hillary couldn't and didn't influence the vote?
So what...she likely supported the deal, as did most, because it was fricking harmless and in now way corrupt. To imply that she had something to do with Foster's suicide and that she would do it again for this deal, is in a word, insane. You're better than that.
No, I'm not, and never was. Sorry to burst your "credible poster" bubble. It's not like a give a care what you think.

By the way, just to be clear, back when you thought of me as a "credible poster," I would have posted exactly the same comments.

I have never believed that Vince Foster was a suicide, nor that Seth Rich was killed in a robbery attempt. And there's nothing insane about questioning two killings where the official explanations don't seem to fit the facts.

Of course not...in spite of all the evidence (especially in the Foster suicide)...you're nothing more than a deranged Hillary hater on this matter and most others. Sad reality dude.

Again, anyone still thinking this was not a suicide after reading this has some issues.
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RE: That's Right!
(04-05-2018 08:56 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(04-05-2018 02:44 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-02-2018 10:00 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(04-02-2018 09:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(04-02-2018 08:38 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Do you really believe that Hillary couldn't and didn't influence the vote?
So what...she likely supported the deal, as did most, because it was fricking harmless and in now way corrupt. To imply that she had something to do with Foster's suicide and that she would do it again for this deal, is in a word, insane. You're better than that.
No, I'm not, and never was. Sorry to burst your "credible poster" bubble. It's not like a give a care what you think.
By the way, just to be clear, back when you thought of me as a "credible poster," I would have posted exactly the same comments.
I have never believed that Vince Foster was a suicide, nor that Seth Rich was killed in a robbery attempt. And there's nothing insane about questioning two killings where the official explanations don't seem to fit the facts.
Of course not...in spite of all the evidence (especially in the Foster suicide)...you're nothing more than a deranged Hillary hater on this matter and most others. Sad reality dude.
Again, anyone still thinking this was not a suicide after reading this has some issues.

Well, that article is full of explanations why it could have been a suicide, but no convincing evidence that it was. I agree that it could have been, but "could have been" doesn't mean "was," and I don't believe it was, and that article sure as hell doesn't get me there.

And remember that this "deranged Hillary hater" voted for her in two democrat primaries (both times admittedly in attempts--one successful, one not--to avoid alternatives that IMO were much worse; given that I didn't believe Vince Foster was a suicide, but I still preferred her, you should be able to figure out how I felt about Obama and Bernie). And recall further that during the campaign I posted on here several times that I didn't see any strong reason to prefer her or Trump. And for the record, I voted for neither in the general. Those would seem to be rather unusual credentials for a "deranged Hillary hater."
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Just because one doesn't believe that was suicide, doesn't mean that it was Hillary either. It seems quite clear that Bill and Hillary (and Donald) have some deranged followers.
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