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(03-28-2018 12:06 AM)Prideofalion Wrote:  I really don’t care about the coach. Fire JJ for all I care. I guess you like pegging me as a “Jones defender” I’m just not soo simple minded that I blame everything on 1 person all the time. That goes for all walks of life, not just sports. To me that says you blame all of your problems on others, but that’s neither here nor there.

Show me one program that doesn’t have transfers every year or every other year or an occasional kid getting kicked off the team... I’ll wait. If u think that’s going to change you are going to be waiting a while. Like I said... over 700 kids expected to transfer this year.

And for the record, Trey Porter is a man. I’ll call him out and not feel bad about it one bit. He’s extremely immature on the basketball court. Period.

Except that 3 years of no recruiting means that our starting frontcourt next season currently consists of Aaron Carver and a true freshman.

I didnt see the news until this morning and all I can think is DAMN! Not casting shade but I know where it lies. This is why everyone wanted Jones landing bigs in previous classes. I dont care whether they would be starters or not, you have to maintain DEPTH and now that Trey is leaving, we're left scrambling because we have no depth.

I know what I want but I wont go too deep into that as clearly the Lions "Pride" gets upset.

We have Reece and Ezipke coming in, and now another opening. Does Jarvis Vaughn come in next year or go the prep route. I guess all dependent on his SAT and grades. I will say I know he played 2A but when I saw Jarvis play he was smooth and had some really nice moves/plays.

I think Jones fate is written on the wall. Unless we bring in an IMPACT GRAD TRANSFER we are not going to be good. If Jones has to rely on any of our 4 freshman recruits (assuming all make it here) we are not going to be good. IMO, I think Jones is done unless we get the IMPACT PLAYER and they are averaging 15 pts/gm next year.

LET THE BATTLE BEGIN!

(03-27-2018 09:07 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  I mean, wait til next year is everyone's defense. Next year just imploded, so I figure we migt as well just get a jump on the transition instead of waiting out the inevitable.

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There is some logic to this. I think Jeff deserves this year to have one last shot at showing what he can do with his players. But let’s be realistic, the NCAA just got a lot harder to reach. I don’t have a problem making a contingency plan for after the season, and having already done our homework on who we want to hire, secretly raising money to get them, guaging interest etc. When the odds are pretty good we are going to have to let him go, no need to do it unprepared like we are surprised by it.

(03-27-2018 11:10 PM)PhillyFlorz Wrote:  If ODU were to fire Jones, Selig, and Wilder, what would we have left to talk about?

ODU's success?

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(03-28-2018 05:42 AM)MONARCHSWIN Wrote:  Is it normal for someone to announce that they are transferring without knowing where they are transferring to? Is he just saying "i'm available"?

Yes, its common. But you can bet hes heard from some teams and has an idea where hes going. And thats just how it is nowadays. .

(03-28-2018 01:12 AM)ODU1986 Wrote:  After 20 years of basketball season tickets, I gave mine up a couple of years back. Doubtful I’ll renew football this year either, so that’s an almost 10 year streak that will come to an end. And I’m no Bill Gates, but my average Blue Club donation was about $2,500 a year, and that of course was on top of the season ticket cost.

So while I’m slowly withdrawing from the program, I’m constantly bombarded by ODU athletic propaganda stating how great we are. Well we’re not.

Since Wood came on board it’s like we’ve slowly been descending into a pit of mediocrity. Our entire athletic program pretty much sucks these days.

To put things into perspective, as it currently stands right now, JMU's frontcourt will dominate ours next season. Think about that.

(03-28-2018 06:47 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  To put things into perspective, as it currently stands right now, JMU's frontcourt will dominate ours next season. Think about that.

Because we do not have a front court. At least not on campus yet.

(03-28-2018 06:57 AM)monarx Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 06:47 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  To put things into perspective, as it currently stands right now, JMU's frontcourt will dominate ours next season. Think about that.

Because we do not have a front court. At least not on campus yet.

..and there is simply no excuse for that.

This is a sincere question, how was Jones supposed to "keep" Porter from transferring? He gave him playing time, the coaching staff developed him into one of the best big men in CUSA, he is graduating, and it is common for players t transfer when they have eligibility remaining to test themselves on the bigger stage. Instead of bitching about Jones, ***** to the NCAA for allowing kids to back out of their commitment with this stupid grad transfer rule. But that would disadvantage the Kentucky's and Louisville's of the world who bring in one and done players and need to back fill their rosters. This is not the coaching staffs fault, it is the name of the game these days.

Can someone post a link where Trey said he is leaving because of Jones’ System? Maybe I missed that link.

So f****** f*****.

So much for reducing Carver's minutes next year. Looks like he will have to play near 40 minutes every game. Picture that...Aaron Carver playing 40 minutes per game for a D1 basketball team. What a MF debacle.

This means there are now 2 schollies to fill, correct?

Good riddance. He mouthed off every game and had a terrible attitude. I honestly couldn't enjoy the year he had because every time I looked at him he was whining to the refs.

Notice who started the name calling. It is what it is at this point, I don't expect anything less from the pro jones crowd. This is business as usual for them, attacking the messenger.
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(03-28-2018 07:06 AM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  This is a sincere question, how was Jones supposed to "keep" Porter from transferring? He gave him playing time, the coaching staff developed him into one of the best big men in CUSA, he is graduating, and it is common for players t transfer when they have eligibility remaining to test themselves on the bigger stage. Instead of bitching about Jones, ***** to the NCAA for allowing kids to back out of their commitment with this stupid grad transfer rule. But that would disadvantage the Kentucky's and Louisville's of the world who bring in one and done players and need to back fill their rosters. This is not the coaching staffs fault, it is the name of the game these days.

This isn't about keeping Porter from transferring. That is what it is. This is about his first three years of recruiting (or lack thereof) that resulted in having one good big man for next season which suddenly became zero.

Next year is year #6 for JJ. No more Blaine holdovers. This is his team, and the talent on the floor, including the frontcourt, is the talent that he recruited. He has better be hitting the grad transfer list hard for two good big men, or else one of these incoming freshmen needs to be the next Odell Hodge. Beyond that, we will miss the NCAA'S for the 8th season in a row, which would be the longest draught ever.

Someone get on the phone with Rick Pitino before it's too late!!!

You guys keep forgetting about Alfis. We will be fine

(03-28-2018 07:06 AM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  This is a sincere question, how was Jones supposed to "keep" Porter from transferring? He gave him playing time, the coaching staff developed him into one of the best big men in CUSA, he is graduating, and it is common for players t transfer when they have eligibility remaining to test themselves on the bigger stage. Instead of bitching about Jones, ***** to the NCAA for allowing kids to back out of their commitment with this stupid grad transfer rule. But that would disadvantage the Kentucky's and Louisville's of the world who bring in one and done players and need to back fill their rosters. This is not the coaching staffs fault, it is the name of the game these days.

We benefit from grad transfers just as much as the "Kentucky's and Louisville's" do. It's part of the game now. College basketball free agency. No program is immune to it. JJ doesn't like it, but he uses it. Let's see who we land.