KNIGHTTIME
Hall of Famer
Posts: 13,511
Joined: May 2002
Reputation: 308
I Root For: '17 Natty Champ
Location:
|
RE: Gonzaga to MWC within 2 weeks?
Gonzaga in the AAC makes zero sense for either party. Just too far for Olympic sports.
|
|
04-01-2018 11:28 PM |
|
pesik
Legend
Posts: 26,442
Joined: Jan 2014
Reputation: 817
I Root For: Houston
Location:
|
RE: Gonzaga to MWC within 2 weeks?
(04-01-2018 09:58 PM)vick mike Wrote: (04-01-2018 09:28 PM)BigHouston Wrote: (04-01-2018 05:53 PM)pesik Wrote: (04-01-2018 05:13 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: (04-01-2018 03:02 PM)BigHouston Wrote: Hunch says Gonzaga really never wanted in in the MWC and I dont believe Gonzaga's temperament was $$$ driven also. This current bump $$$ that Gonzaga just received is only temporary until ESPN IMHO provides them a better alternative landing spot.
ESPN knows AAC has successfully transformed itself into a pretty strong solid league, who knows maybe ESPN and AAC draw something up together for Gonzaga and perhaps even tag BYU in the discussions.
Gonzaga to the AAC?
Anyone know how many stops over how many days it takes to fly from Stoors to Spokane? How much money that costs?
as is west teams barely see east teams....
houston to spokane, isnt that far off from houston to storrs
This ^^^
I'm not saying AAC should heavily push for Gonzaga but AAC's new tv contract is right around the corner and what better way to max out said contract with ESPN or other tv networks than to discuss the addition in one more solid basketball program in an already impressive basketball conference, the AAC.
I know this is not pleasant for y’all to hear, but the American is more than just Houston. Travel to Spokane would be a huge burden for almost all of our teams. Why don’t we see how the Wichita experiment pans out before adding more basketball only schools, especially remote ones like Gonzaga.
gonzaga wouldnt be alone, byu too
and their are more than 1 central team (tulane, smu, tulsa)
storrs isn't the location of every aac team
|
|
04-01-2018 11:43 PM |
|
Agust
1st String
Posts: 2,025
Joined: Jan 2017
Reputation: 84
I Root For: Houston
Location:
|
RE: Gonzaga to MWC within 2 weeks?
Let's not derail this thread into a so/so team to the AAC argument. If needed there are probably 100 sdsu,BYU,Boise,army,...to the AAC threads that can get resurrected.
(This post was last modified: 04-02-2018 04:59 AM by Agust.)
|
|
04-02-2018 04:58 AM |
|
UCONNONANDON
Banned
Posts: 6
Joined: Mar 2018
I Root For: Uconn
Location:
|
RE: Gonzaga to MWC within 2 weeks?
(04-02-2018 04:58 AM)Agust Wrote: Let's not derail this thread into a so/so team to the AAC argument. If needed there are probably 100 sdsu,BYU,Boise,army,...to the AAC threads that can get resurrected.
Gonzaga and St Mary's (Olymipic)/Army and Air Force (football) to the AAC! Lol
|
|
04-02-2018 06:43 AM |
|
Chappy
Resident Goonie
Posts: 18,896
Joined: Dec 2008
Reputation: 899
I Root For: ECU
Location: Raleigh, NC
|
RE: Gonzaga to MWC within 2 weeks?
If Gonzaga does eventually wind up in the MWC, it would give them a very similar setup to ours; 12 full members, 11 of which play football, 1 football-only member, 1 military academy.
|
|
04-02-2018 06:54 AM |
|
UCONNONANDON
Banned
Posts: 6
Joined: Mar 2018
I Root For: Uconn
Location:
|
RE: Gonzaga to MWC within 2 weeks?
(04-02-2018 06:54 AM)Chappy Wrote: If Gonzaga does eventually wind up in the MWC, it would give them a very similar setup to ours; 12 full members, 11 of which play football, 1 football-only member, 1 military academy.
copycat wannabes
|
|
04-02-2018 07:20 AM |
|
HoustonRocks
1st String
Posts: 1,229
Joined: Jul 2013
Reputation: 40
I Root For: HoustonCougars
Location:
|
RE: Gonzaga to MWC within 2 weeks?
|
|
04-03-2018 01:33 PM |
|
KNIGHTTIME
Hall of Famer
Posts: 13,511
Joined: May 2002
Reputation: 308
I Root For: '17 Natty Champ
Location:
|
RE: Gonzaga to MWC within 2 weeks?
(04-03-2018 01:33 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote: Gonzaga athletic director Mike Roth says Zags staying in WCC
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/ap...s-stay/#/0
MWC might put together a nice special deal for them in a year. Nobody will make money except Boise and Gonzaga...lol
|
|
04-03-2018 02:43 PM |
|
BigHouston
STRONG
Posts: 12,203
Joined: Jan 2011
Reputation: 362
I Root For: HOUSTON, USC Trojans
Location: Houston Tx
|
RE: Gonzaga to MWC within 2 weeks?
(04-03-2018 02:43 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: (04-03-2018 01:33 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote: Gonzaga athletic director Mike Roth says Zags staying in WCC
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/ap...s-stay/#/0
MWC might put together a nice special deal for them in a year. Nobody will make money except Boise and Gonzaga...lol
Their unfriendly revenue sharing unfortunately screams far more inhouse problems for them... Unless Boise is willing to revise their share $$$.
|
|
04-03-2018 05:22 PM |
|
Attackcoog
Moderator
Posts: 44,830
Joined: Oct 2011
Reputation: 2880
I Root For: Houston
Location:
|
RE: Gonzaga to MWC within 2 weeks?
(04-03-2018 02:43 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: (04-03-2018 01:33 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote: Gonzaga athletic director Mike Roth says Zags staying in WCC
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/ap...s-stay/#/0
MWC might put together a nice special deal for them in a year. Nobody will make money except Boise and Gonzaga...lol
lol...yeah--I thnk they are done with that. One of the most interesting aspects of the next Mountain West TV deal will be if Boise's "special" treatment survives the next contract. I suspect one reason the MW is willing to look at an all streaming deal is that the majority of MW teams don't earn that much TV money from the current set up. A streaming deal would hit Boise---who makes 3-to-4 million off the tv deal much harder than UNLV who barely makes a million.
(This post was last modified: 04-03-2018 05:29 PM by Attackcoog.)
|
|
04-03-2018 05:27 PM |
|
billybobby777
The REAL BillyBobby
Posts: 11,898
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 502
I Root For: ECU, Army
Location: Houston dont sleepon
|
RE: Gonzaga to MWC within 2 weeks?
(04-03-2018 05:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (04-03-2018 02:43 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: (04-03-2018 01:33 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote: Gonzaga athletic director Mike Roth says Zags staying in WCC
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/ap...s-stay/#/0
MWC might put together a nice special deal for them in a year. Nobody will make money except Boise and Gonzaga...lol
lol...yeah--I thnk they are done with that. One of the most interesting aspects of the next Mountain West TV deal will be if Boise's "special" treatment survives the next contract. I suspect one reason the MW is willing to look at an all streaming deal is that the majority of MW teams don't earn that much TV money from the current set up. A streaming deal would hit Boise---who makes 3-to-4 million off the tv deal much harder than UNLV who barely makes a million.
The un even $ model hurts. Look what it did to the big 12! Nebraska had a special deal with the big 12 and still left! Iowa St and Baylor used to make pennies while Nebraska and Texas took the majority of it.
I know any of us would give anything to be in Iowa St's shoes in the big 12 so I won't mock it too much....
|
|
04-04-2018 10:16 AM |
|
DowdyPirate2
1st String
Posts: 1,477
Joined: May 2017
Reputation: 31
I Root For: ECU
Location:
|
RE: Gonzaga to MWC within 2 weeks?
(03-24-2018 07:17 PM)panicstricken Wrote: They are in Spokane Washington. Anyone ever try to fly there? I have you have to take a prop plane Alaska Air flight from Seattle.
Its not a good fit. Its terrible for our olympic non revenue sports. Its a stupid add.
BYU is at least next to a major airport and brings Football.
I flew there from Vegas
|
|
04-04-2018 10:24 AM |
|
gulfcoastgal
All American
Posts: 4,299
Joined: Feb 2007
Reputation: 400
I Root For: Memphis Tigers
Location:
|
RE: Gonzaga to MWC within 2 weeks?
(04-03-2018 05:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (04-03-2018 02:43 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: (04-03-2018 01:33 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote: Gonzaga athletic director Mike Roth says Zags staying in WCC
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/ap...s-stay/#/0
MWC might put together a nice special deal for them in a year. Nobody will make money except Boise and Gonzaga...lol
lol...yeah--I thnk they are done with that. One of the most interesting aspects of the next Mountain West TV deal will be if Boise's "special" treatment survives the next contract. I suspect one reason the MW is willing to look at an all streaming deal is that the majority of MW teams don't earn that much TV money from the current set up. A streaming deal would hit Boise---who makes 3-to-4 million off the tv deal much harder than UNLV who barely makes a million.
Boise term sheet - https://www.usufans.com/Forums/download/...hp?id=1724
|
|
04-04-2018 10:55 AM |
|
Attackcoog
Moderator
Posts: 44,830
Joined: Oct 2011
Reputation: 2880
I Root For: Houston
Location:
|
RE: Gonzaga to MWC within 2 weeks?
(04-04-2018 10:55 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote: (04-03-2018 05:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (04-03-2018 02:43 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: (04-03-2018 01:33 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote: Gonzaga athletic director Mike Roth says Zags staying in WCC
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/ap...s-stay/#/0
MWC might put together a nice special deal for them in a year. Nobody will make money except Boise and Gonzaga...lol
lol...yeah--I thnk they are done with that. One of the most interesting aspects of the next Mountain West TV deal will be if Boise's "special" treatment survives the next contract. I suspect one reason the MW is willing to look at an all streaming deal is that the majority of MW teams don't earn that much TV money from the current set up. A streaming deal would hit Boise---who makes 3-to-4 million off the tv deal much harder than UNLV who barely makes a million.
Boise term sheet - https://www.usufans.com/Forums/download/...hp?id=1724
Whats really interesting to me is term sheet item #6 (Binding effect) which states the terms of the agreement cannot be changed----even by a future vote of the conference members. The funny thing is---they have already changed the terms of the agreement. Specifically, item #4a (which lays out the revenue distribution of the national exposure bonus system) has already been changed by a vote of the members after this agreement was accepted.
That said, item #6 of the agreement would appear to eliminate any possibility of ditching the Boise special deal after the current media deal expires.
(This post was last modified: 04-04-2018 02:12 PM by Attackcoog.)
|
|
04-04-2018 12:48 PM |
|
MWC Tex
Heisman
Posts: 7,850
Joined: Aug 2012
Reputation: 179
I Root For: MW
Location: TX
|
RE: Gonzaga to MWC within 2 weeks?
(04-04-2018 12:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (04-04-2018 10:55 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote: (04-03-2018 05:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (04-03-2018 02:43 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: (04-03-2018 01:33 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote: Gonzaga athletic director Mike Roth says Zags staying in WCC
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/ap...s-stay/#/0
MWC might put together a nice special deal for them in a year. Nobody will make money except Boise and Gonzaga...lol
lol...yeah--I thnk they are done with that. One of the most interesting aspects of the next Mountain West TV deal will be if Boise's "special" treatment survives the next contract. I suspect one reason the MW is willing to look at an all streaming deal is that the majority of MW teams don't earn that much TV money from the current set up. A streaming deal would hit Boise---who makes 3-to-4 million off the tv deal much harder than UNLV who barely makes a million.
Boise term sheet - https://www.usufans.com/Forums/download/...hp?id=1724
Whats really interesting to me is term sheet item #6 (Binding effect) which states the terms of the agreement cannot be changed----even by a future vote of the conference members. The funny thing is---they have already changed the terms of the agreement. Specifically, item #4a (which is lays out the revenue distribution of the national exposure bonus system) has already been changed by a vote of the members after this agreement was accepted.
That said, item #6 of the agreement would appear to eliminate any possibility of ditching the Boise special deal after the current media deal expires.
Sounds like it. The BSU home games will always be sold as a separate package.
From the amendments, that have been, it would lead me to believe that the MW members were getting so restless about the deal that they would have no problem voting them out and thus BSU made consessions to the MW members to keep them happier than before.
It sure is going to be interesting how this will play out next year.
|
|
04-04-2018 01:21 PM |
|
billybobby777
The REAL BillyBobby
Posts: 11,898
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 502
I Root For: ECU, Army
Location: Houston dont sleepon
|
RE: Gonzaga to MWC within 2 weeks?
(04-04-2018 01:21 PM)MWC Tex Wrote: (04-04-2018 12:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (04-04-2018 10:55 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote: (04-03-2018 05:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (04-03-2018 02:43 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: MWC might put together a nice special deal for them in a year. Nobody will make money except Boise and Gonzaga...lol
lol...yeah--I thnk they are done with that. One of the most interesting aspects of the next Mountain West TV deal will be if Boise's "special" treatment survives the next contract. I suspect one reason the MW is willing to look at an all streaming deal is that the majority of MW teams don't earn that much TV money from the current set up. A streaming deal would hit Boise---who makes 3-to-4 million off the tv deal much harder than UNLV who barely makes a million.
Boise term sheet - https://www.usufans.com/Forums/download/...hp?id=1724
Whats really interesting to me is term sheet item #6 (Binding effect) which states the terms of the agreement cannot be changed----even by a future vote of the conference members. The funny thing is---they have already changed the terms of the agreement. Specifically, item #4a (which is lays out the revenue distribution of the national exposure bonus system) has already been changed by a vote of the members after this agreement was accepted.
That said, item #6 of the agreement would appear to eliminate any possibility of ditching the Boise special deal after the current media deal expires.
Sounds like it. The BSU home games will always be sold as a separate package.
From the amendments, that have been, it would lead me to believe that the MW members were getting so restless about the deal that they would have no problem voting them out and thus BSU made consessions to the MW members to keep them happier than before.
It sure is going to be interesting how this will play out next year.
I've never heard of this! So ESPN and Boise don't have an end date to their contract? Even the ACC has an end date to theirs (2009-2036)
|
|
04-04-2018 06:38 PM |
|
MWC Tex
Heisman
Posts: 7,850
Joined: Aug 2012
Reputation: 179
I Root For: MW
Location: TX
|
RE: Gonzaga to MWC within 2 weeks?
(04-04-2018 06:38 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: (04-04-2018 01:21 PM)MWC Tex Wrote: (04-04-2018 12:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (04-04-2018 10:55 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote: (04-03-2018 05:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: lol...yeah--I thnk they are done with that. One of the most interesting aspects of the next Mountain West TV deal will be if Boise's "special" treatment survives the next contract. I suspect one reason the MW is willing to look at an all streaming deal is that the majority of MW teams don't earn that much TV money from the current set up. A streaming deal would hit Boise---who makes 3-to-4 million off the tv deal much harder than UNLV who barely makes a million.
Boise term sheet - https://www.usufans.com/Forums/download/...hp?id=1724
Whats really interesting to me is term sheet item #6 (Binding effect) which states the terms of the agreement cannot be changed----even by a future vote of the conference members. The funny thing is---they have already changed the terms of the agreement. Specifically, item #4a (which is lays out the revenue distribution of the national exposure bonus system) has already been changed by a vote of the members after this agreement was accepted.
That said, item #6 of the agreement would appear to eliminate any possibility of ditching the Boise special deal after the current media deal expires.
Sounds like it. The BSU home games will always be sold as a separate package.
From the amendments, that have been, it would lead me to believe that the MW members were getting so restless about the deal that they would have no problem voting them out and thus BSU made consessions to the MW members to keep them happier than before.
It sure is going to be interesting how this will play out next year.
I've never heard of this! So ESPN and Boise don't have an end date to their contract? Even the ACC has an end date to theirs (2009-2036)
It doesn't have to be with ESPN. It only refers that Boise homes games will be sold as a separate package. We'll see. The other MW members are revolting, especially since BSU isn't as dominate as they were before.
|
|
04-04-2018 06:58 PM |
|
Attackcoog
Moderator
Posts: 44,830
Joined: Oct 2011
Reputation: 2880
I Root For: Houston
Location:
|
RE: Gonzaga to MWC within 2 weeks?
(04-04-2018 06:38 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: (04-04-2018 01:21 PM)MWC Tex Wrote: (04-04-2018 12:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (04-04-2018 10:55 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote: (04-03-2018 05:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: lol...yeah--I thnk they are done with that. One of the most interesting aspects of the next Mountain West TV deal will be if Boise's "special" treatment survives the next contract. I suspect one reason the MW is willing to look at an all streaming deal is that the majority of MW teams don't earn that much TV money from the current set up. A streaming deal would hit Boise---who makes 3-to-4 million off the tv deal much harder than UNLV who barely makes a million.
Boise term sheet - https://www.usufans.com/Forums/download/...hp?id=1724
Whats really interesting to me is term sheet item #6 (Binding effect) which states the terms of the agreement cannot be changed----even by a future vote of the conference members. The funny thing is---they have already changed the terms of the agreement. Specifically, item #4a (which is lays out the revenue distribution of the national exposure bonus system) has already been changed by a vote of the members after this agreement was accepted.
That said, item #6 of the agreement would appear to eliminate any possibility of ditching the Boise special deal after the current media deal expires.
Sounds like it. The BSU home games will always be sold as a separate package.
From the amendments, that have been, it would lead me to believe that the MW members were getting so restless about the deal that they would have no problem voting them out and thus BSU made consessions to the MW members to keep them happier than before.
It sure is going to be interesting how this will play out next year.
I've never heard of this! So ESPN and Boise don't have an end date to their contract? Even the ACC has an end date to theirs (2009-2036)
The term sheet posted is the agreement between the MW and Boise which allowed them to back out of joining the AAC (2012) and rejoin the Mountain West. Its a conference affiliation agreement---its not with ESPN or a network (though it effects how those agreements will be handled).
|
|
04-04-2018 07:19 PM |
|
billybobby777
The REAL BillyBobby
Posts: 11,898
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 502
I Root For: ECU, Army
Location: Houston dont sleepon
|
RE: Gonzaga to MWC within 2 weeks?
(04-04-2018 06:58 PM)MWC Tex Wrote: (04-04-2018 06:38 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: (04-04-2018 01:21 PM)MWC Tex Wrote: (04-04-2018 12:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (04-04-2018 10:55 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote: Boise term sheet - https://www.usufans.com/Forums/download/...hp?id=1724
Whats really interesting to me is term sheet item #6 (Binding effect) which states the terms of the agreement cannot be changed----even by a future vote of the conference members. The funny thing is---they have already changed the terms of the agreement. Specifically, item #4a (which is lays out the revenue distribution of the national exposure bonus system) has already been changed by a vote of the members after this agreement was accepted.
That said, item #6 of the agreement would appear to eliminate any possibility of ditching the Boise special deal after the current media deal expires.
Sounds like it. The BSU home games will always be sold as a separate package.
From the amendments, that have been, it would lead me to believe that the MW members were getting so restless about the deal that they would have no problem voting them out and thus BSU made consessions to the MW members to keep them happier than before.
It sure is going to be interesting how this will play out next year.
I've never heard of this! So ESPN and Boise don't have an end date to their contract? Even the ACC has an end date to theirs (2009-2036)
It doesn't have to be with ESPN. It only refers that Boise homes games will be sold as a separate package. We'll see. The other MW members are revolting, especially since BSU isn't as dominate as they were before.
Well, Boise to the AAC isn’t going to happen now so this will be interesting...
|
|
04-04-2018 07:23 PM |
|