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RE: WNIT:Rockets vs Sparty
(03-20-2018 05:31 AM)Dwight Wrote:  I can't believe Beacham finally got the start in the Rockets' last game, and she proved that she deserved it. I'm guessing Cullop did that to counter MSU's size. But why are we the ones who always have to adjust to the other team? Why not make them adjust to us? I'm not talking about last night, but in general start McIntyre and Beacham together. Sure, one of them might be slightly mismatched guarding a quicker opposing player, but we can exploit the size and strength mismatch at the other end. I swear if St. Fort plays next year ahead of Beacham I'll boycott.

Beacham, Davis, and the UIC transfer will be keys to our improvement next year.

Beacham surely played because of the size of the MSU lineup. And IMO we solved our rebounding problem against a much bigger team with Beacham's presence. And she brings an offensive game which no one else on the bench can do. Final observation .. Beacham played 200 minutes this year and St Fort played 679 minutes. That was a large coaching mistake.
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(03-20-2018 06:53 AM)temoxley Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 05:31 AM)Dwight Wrote:  I can't believe Beacham finally got the start in the Rockets' last game, and she proved that she deserved it. I'm guessing Cullop did that to counter MSU's size. But why are we the ones who always have to adjust to the other team? Why not make them adjust to us? I'm not talking about last night, but in general start McIntyre and Beacham together. Sure, one of them might be slightly mismatched guarding a quicker opposing player, but we can exploit the size and strength mismatch at the other end. I swear if St. Fort plays next year ahead of Beacham I'll boycott.

Beacham, Davis, and the UIC transfer will be keys to our improvement next year.

Beacham surely played because of the size of the MSU lineup. And IMO we solved our rebounding problem against a much bigger team with Beacham's presence. And she brings an offensive game which no one else on the bench can do. Final observation .. Beacham played 200 minutes this year and St Fort played 679 minutes. That was a large coaching mistake.

I never understood playing St Fort so much. Whatever we gained by her supposedly good defense, was clearly lost at the other end of the court.
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(03-20-2018 06:10 AM)cnyrocketfan Wrote:  You guys know me - I always find something to complain or whine about. 03-wink But here goes

Announced attendance for the game in East Lansing was 2144.

http://www.msuspartans.com/sports/w-bask...318ut.html

Announced attendance for the Purdue-Ball State game in Muncie was 1307.

http://ballstatesports.com/boxscore.aspx...ll&id=6093

So Ball State gets to host a Big 10 team in the WNIT while the Rockets play at Michigan State? Maybe the W-L records of the teams had something to do with that, but MSU's record wasn't that much better than Toledo's. Just wondering what the thinking was with this. Somebody smarter than I am can probably explain it. But there undoubtedly would have been more people in Savage than Ball State drew. And I certainly wouldn't have been surprised if UT drew a bigger crowd than the Spartans got.

Maybe somebody mentioned this in the game thread already, but I haven't been through it.

fwiw, this game was announced to be in East Lansing before the Toledo/Wright St game was even played
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(03-20-2018 06:53 AM)temoxley Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 05:31 AM)Dwight Wrote:  I can't believe Beacham finally got the start in the Rockets' last game, and she proved that she deserved it. I'm guessing Cullop did that to counter MSU's size. But why are we the ones who always have to adjust to the other team? Why not make them adjust to us? I'm not talking about last night, but in general start McIntyre and Beacham together. Sure, one of them might be slightly mismatched guarding a quicker opposing player, but we can exploit the size and strength mismatch at the other end. I swear if St. Fort plays next year ahead of Beacham I'll boycott.

Beacham, Davis, and the UIC transfer will be keys to our improvement next year.

Beacham surely played because of the size of the MSU lineup. And IMO we solved our rebounding problem against a much bigger team with Beacham's presence. And she brings an offensive game which no one else on the bench can do. Final observation .. Beacham played 200 minutes this year and St Fort played 679 minutes. That was a large coaching mistake.

I think Beacham and Davis got minutes with an eye to next year. Raz did not play yesterday, nor did St. Fort. Coaches don’t like to mess around too much with lineups during the conference season (although I think we swapped out Santucci and Rokkanen @ some point, then back again) but in the NIT there is no real pressure so freshmen get more minutes. I think both of those players will contribute next year. Not sold on Copeland yet.
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(03-20-2018 07:21 AM)T4C8 Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 06:10 AM)cnyrocketfan Wrote:  You guys know me - I always find something to complain or whine about. 03-wink But here goes

Announced attendance for the game in East Lansing was 2144.

http://www.msuspartans.com/sports/w-bask...318ut.html

Announced attendance for the Purdue-Ball State game in Muncie was 1307.

http://ballstatesports.com/boxscore.aspx...ll&id=6093

So Ball State gets to host a Big 10 team in the WNIT while the Rockets play at Michigan State? Maybe the W-L records of the teams had something to do with that, but MSU's record wasn't that much better than Toledo's. Just wondering what the thinking was with this. Somebody smarter than I am can probably explain it. But there undoubtedly would have been more people in Savage than Ball State drew. And I certainly wouldn't have been surprised if UT drew a bigger crowd than the Spartans got.

Maybe somebody mentioned this in the game thread already, but I haven't been through it.

fwiw, this game was announced to be in East Lansing before the Toledo/Wright St game was even played

Not sure how it works today, but at one time the WNIT wanted to make money and the highest bidder $$$ got the game. That was true when the women won the WNIT.
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Colley Comes Up Clutch In Second Round WNIT Over Toledo
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(03-20-2018 08:16 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 06:53 AM)temoxley Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 05:31 AM)Dwight Wrote:  I can't believe Beacham finally got the start in the Rockets' last game, and she proved that she deserved it. I'm guessing Cullop did that to counter MSU's size. But why are we the ones who always have to adjust to the other team? Why not make them adjust to us? I'm not talking about last night, but in general start McIntyre and Beacham together. Sure, one of them might be slightly mismatched guarding a quicker opposing player, but we can exploit the size and strength mismatch at the other end. I swear if St. Fort plays next year ahead of Beacham I'll boycott.

Beacham, Davis, and the UIC transfer will be keys to our improvement next year.

Beacham surely played because of the size of the MSU lineup. And IMO we solved our rebounding problem against a much bigger team with Beacham's presence. And she brings an offensive game which no one else on the bench can do. Final observation .. Beacham played 200 minutes this year and St Fort played 679 minutes. That was a large coaching mistake.

I think Beacham and Davis got minutes with an eye to next year. Raz did not play yesterday, nor did St. Fort. Coaches don’t like to mess around too much with lineups during the conference season (although I think we swapped out Santucci and Rokkanen @ some point, then back again) but in the NIT there is no real pressure so freshmen get more minutes. I think both of those players will contribute next year. Not sold on Copeland yet.

This team desperately needs one or maybe two good perimeter shooters to improve significantly next year. I don't see that coming from the current recruiting class. Would seem to have to be either Santucci, Cunningham or Rokkanen or the player recruited to replace Wright. And Cunningham's minutes have nearly evaporated. Not sure what her problem is.
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(03-20-2018 09:02 AM)temoxley Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 08:16 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 06:53 AM)temoxley Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 05:31 AM)Dwight Wrote:  I can't believe Beacham finally got the start in the Rockets' last game, and she proved that she deserved it. I'm guessing Cullop did that to counter MSU's size. But why are we the ones who always have to adjust to the other team? Why not make them adjust to us? I'm not talking about last night, but in general start McIntyre and Beacham together. Sure, one of them might be slightly mismatched guarding a quicker opposing player, but we can exploit the size and strength mismatch at the other end. I swear if St. Fort plays next year ahead of Beacham I'll boycott.

Beacham, Davis, and the UIC transfer will be keys to our improvement next year.

Beacham surely played because of the size of the MSU lineup. And IMO we solved our rebounding problem against a much bigger team with Beacham's presence. And she brings an offensive game which no one else on the bench can do. Final observation .. Beacham played 200 minutes this year and St Fort played 679 minutes. That was a large coaching mistake.

I think Beacham and Davis got minutes with an eye to next year. Raz did not play yesterday, nor did St. Fort. Coaches don’t like to mess around too much with lineups during the conference season (although I think we swapped out Santucci and Rokkanen @ some point, then back again) but in the NIT there is no real pressure so freshmen get more minutes. I think both of those players will contribute next year. Not sold on Copeland yet.

This team desperately needs one or maybe two good perimeter shooters to improve significantly next year. I don't see that coming from the current recruiting class. Would seem to have to be either Santucci, Cunningham or Rokkanen or the player recruited to replace Wright. And Cunningham's minutes have nearly evaporated. Not sure what her problem is.

Copeland's class of guards was recruited to solve the shooting problem.
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(03-20-2018 09:30 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 09:02 AM)temoxley Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 08:16 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 06:53 AM)temoxley Wrote:  
(03-20-2018 05:31 AM)Dwight Wrote:  I can't believe Beacham finally got the start in the Rockets' last game, and she proved that she deserved it. I'm guessing Cullop did that to counter MSU's size. But why are we the ones who always have to adjust to the other team? Why not make them adjust to us? I'm not talking about last night, but in general start McIntyre and Beacham together. Sure, one of them might be slightly mismatched guarding a quicker opposing player, but we can exploit the size and strength mismatch at the other end. I swear if St. Fort plays next year ahead of Beacham I'll boycott.

Beacham, Davis, and the UIC transfer will be keys to our improvement next year.

Beacham surely played because of the size of the MSU lineup. And IMO we solved our rebounding problem against a much bigger team with Beacham's presence. And she brings an offensive game which no one else on the bench can do. Final observation .. Beacham played 200 minutes this year and St Fort played 679 minutes. That was a large coaching mistake.

I think Beacham and Davis got minutes with an eye to next year. Raz did not play yesterday, nor did St. Fort. Coaches don’t like to mess around too much with lineups during the conference season (although I think we swapped out Santucci and Rokkanen @ some point, then back again) but in the NIT there is no real pressure so freshmen get more minutes. I think both of those players will contribute next year. Not sold on Copeland yet.

This team desperately needs one or maybe two good perimeter shooters to improve significantly next year. I don't see that coming from the current recruiting class. Would seem to have to be either Santucci, Cunningham or Rokkanen or the player recruited to replace Wright. And Cunningham's minutes have nearly evaporated. Not sure what her problem is.

Copeland's class of guards was recruited to solve the shooting problem.

Well hopefully Copeland or Davis will have a Boyd-like evolution to their second year on the team. We certainly need it. Next year should be our year. McIntyre and Boyd are the heart of the team and as seniors they should be at their best. They will be almost impossible to replace the following year.
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