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(03-20-2018 11:51 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 11:23 AM)bearcatmill Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 07:55 AM)TubaCat Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 06:55 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Interesting comment from Rick Broering in this morning’s Skinny Podcsst. He admitted C gets favorable coverage over UC in the media in town and stated it was because of how Mick treats the media. While I generally think Rick is s Dougherty, occasionally he makes some poignant comments. I think there may be some truth to this.

While that wouldn't surprise me, Rick Broering is known to be a huge ***hole that takes any shot he can against UC. Rick's Twitter harassment of Dan Cronin a few weeks ago really solidified my opinion of him.

Who is Rick Broering? Never heard of him

He is Xavier's Chad Brendel/Gametime 21. He and Chad also do a little bit on Channel 12 from time to time.

No wonder I never heard of him. No one worth knowing.

For the people ready to fire Mick and move on... who do you want UC to go after? Not because we lost to them, but I think Musselman is an interesting candidate for a head coaching job.

Before he got to Nevada here were the three prior seasons:
2013: 12-19
2014: 15-17
2015: 9-22

In his 3 seasons:
2016: 24-14 (won the CBI)
2017: 28-7 (12 seed in NCAAs)
2018: 29-7 (7 seed, sweet 16 and counting)

That's a big turnaround. He hasn't had a great defense, but they always score. He's had NBA head coaching experience which may help with recruiting. He has some Ohio ties as well.

(03-21-2018 12:56 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  For the people ready to fire Mick and move on... who do you want UC to go after? Not because we lost to them, but I think Musselman is an interesting candidate for a head coaching job.

Before he got to Nevada here were the three prior seasons:
2013: 12-19
2014: 15-17
2015: 9-22

In his 3 seasons:
2016: 24-14 (won the CBI)
2017: 28-7 (12 seed in NCAAs)
2018: 29-7 (7 seed, sweet 16 and counting)

That's a big turnaround. He hasn't had a great defense, but they always score. He's had NBA head coaching experience which may help with recruiting. He has some Ohio ties as well.

I would take Musselman in a heartbeat, but would he come here? I think UL likes him as a backup option to Mack.

Gotta be honest, I almost felt bad for Musselman after he got the tech. It legitimately seemed like he and the rest of Nevada were completely embarrassed. It's a wonder how they managed to regain their composure.

I don't like how Cronin looked totally lost for the last 10 minutes of the Nevada game, but I don't think he's going anywhere (unless he wants to).

UC won 31 games. They won the AAC. They won the AAC tournament. They make the NCAA tournament yearly now.

I'm extremely disappointed in how the year ended, but I don't see UC getting rid of Cronin because of the Nevada loss, nor should they.

(03-21-2018 01:03 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  I don't like how Cronin looked totally lost for the last 10 minutes of the Nevada game, but I don't think he's going anywhere (unless he wants to).

UC won 31 games. They won the AAC. They won the AAC tournament. They make the NCAA tournament yearly now.

I'm extremely disappointed in how the year ended, but I don't see UC getting rid of Cronin because of the Nevada loss, nor should they.

I agree with this. I just know many are ready to move on and I'm curious to see if anyone has any thoughts on who they like.

(03-21-2018 12:56 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  For the people ready to fire Mick and move on... who do you want UC to go after? Not because we lost to them, but I think Musselman is an interesting candidate for a head coaching job.

Before he got to Nevada here were the three prior seasons:
2013: 12-19
2014: 15-17
2015: 9-22

In his 3 seasons:
2016: 24-14 (won the CBI)
2017: 28-7 (12 seed in NCAAs)
2018: 29-7 (7 seed, sweet 16 and counting)

That's a big turnaround. He hasn't had a great defense, but they always score. He's had NBA head coaching experience which may help with recruiting. He has some Ohio ties as well.

So, I'm going to bite, ONLY because I have heard this trope over and over and over again.... If we fire Tommy Tuberville, who are we going to get??? If we fire Mick/ If Mick goes to UNLV, who are we going to get??? OMG! Who would want to come to UC???

A couple of thoughts:
1) "I" don't have to "hire" anyone. So this idea that "I" have to propose a candidate in order to want a change is preposterous. I'm not the AD and I don't think Bohn is likely to call me to ask my opinion on who would fill the seat of any of the HC's. So... Not my problem.

That being said...
2) There WILL be candidates lining up to take the job. Not "there may be candidates," there WILL be candidates. Good candidates. Yeah, OK, I get that "Chris Mack" will not be making the trip across town...Huggins is NEVER coming back...Boeheim isn't coming here. BUT THERE WILL BE NO SHORTAGE OF CANDIDATES WHO WANT THIS JOB. There will. There will be young guys chomping at the bit for their "big chance." There will be recognized, veteran names wanting a chance to rehab their careers. There will be lower-level guys who have won at their lower-levels who want to make their reputation at a higher-level school like UC. Say it with me one more time: THERE WILL BE CANDIDATES FOR THIS JOB.

3) Mick will move...sooner or later. Nobody lives forever, nobody coaches forever. You had better wrap your mind around the fact now: there will come a day when we are hiring a new Head Basketball Coach. It might not be today...it might not be for the next decade. But it will come. So the irrational fear that "Nobody will want to coach here!" will have to be addressed sooner or later. You're going to have to get over that.

4) Which brings us back to #1... Nobody on this board will have much to contribute to the actual job search/status. So, we're all free to our opinion with little fear that Bohn is taking us seriously. So, lighten up, Francis.

(03-21-2018 01:07 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  So, I'm going to bite, ONLY because I have heard this trope over and over and over again.... If we fire Tommy Tuberville, who are we going to get??? If we fire Mick/ If Mick goes to UNLV, who are we going to get??? OMG! Who would want to come to UC???

A couple of thoughts:
1) "I" don't have to "hire" anyone. So this idea that "I" have to propose a candidate in order to want a change is preposterous. I'm not the AD and I don't think Bohn is likely to call me to ask my opinion on who would fill the seat of any of the HC's. So... Not my problem.

Who said you did? I was curious if there were people other posters had in mind.

(03-21-2018 01:07 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  That being said...
2) There WILL be candidates lining up to take the job. Not "there may be candidates," there WILL be candidates. Good candidates. Yeah, OK, I get that "Chris Mack" will not be making the trip across town...Huggins is NEVER coming back...Boeheim isn't coming here. BUT THERE WILL BE NO SHORTAGE OF CANDIDATES WHO WANT THIS JOB. There will. There will be young guys chomping at the bit for their "big chance." There will be recognized, veteran names wanting a chance to rehab their careers. There will be lower-level guys who have won at their lower-levels who want to make their reputation at a higher-level school like UC. Say it with me one more time: THERE WILL BE CANDIDATES FOR THIS JOB.

No ****... I was asking if there were specific people others wanted. I've repeatedly made the point that it is idiotic to think UC can't find a quality replacement. UC is a really good job, with good history and a lot of success over the last 3 decades. I've never suggested we should keep Mick because we can't find someone else.

(03-21-2018 01:07 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  3) Mick will move...sooner or later. Nobody lives forever, nobody coaches forever. You had better wrap your mind around the fact now: there will come a day when we are hiring a new Head Basketball Coach. It might not be today...it might not be for the next decade. But it will come. So the irrational fear that "Nobody will want to coach here!" will have to be addressed sooner or later. You're going to have to get over that.

Why do I need to wrap my head around that? You're not telling me anything I'd disagree with. I don't have that fear you're talking about that nobody will coach here. I absolutely believe UC can go out and get a good coach.

(03-21-2018 01:07 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  4) Which brings us back to #1... Nobody on this board will have much to contribute to the actual job search/status. So, we're all free to our opinion with little fear that Bohn is taking us seriously. So, lighten up, Francis.

It's a board...I was interested in what other posters thought. WTF should I lighten up about?

(03-21-2018 01:07 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 12:56 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  For the people ready to fire Mick and move on... who do you want UC to go after? Not because we lost to them, but I think Musselman is an interesting candidate for a head coaching job.

Before he got to Nevada here were the three prior seasons:
2013: 12-19
2014: 15-17
2015: 9-22

In his 3 seasons:
2016: 24-14 (won the CBI)
2017: 28-7 (12 seed in NCAAs)
2018: 29-7 (7 seed, sweet 16 and counting)

That's a big turnaround. He hasn't had a great defense, but they always score. He's had NBA head coaching experience which may help with recruiting. He has some Ohio ties as well.

So, I'm going to bite, ONLY because I have heard this trope over and over and over again.... If we fire Tommy Tuberville, who are we going to get??? If we fire Mick/ If Mick goes to UNLV, who are we going to get??? OMG! Who would want to come to UC???

That being said...
2) There WILL be candidates lining up to take the job. Not "there may be candidates," there WILL be candidates. Good candidates. Yeah, OK, I get that "Chris Mack" will not be making the trip across town...Huggins is NEVER coming back...Boeheim isn't coming here. BUT THERE WILL BE NO SHORTAGE OF CANDIDATES WHO WANT THIS JOB. There will. There will be young guys chomping at the bit for their "big chance." There will be recognized, veteran names wanting a chance to rehab their careers. There will be lower-level guys who have won at their lower-levels who want to make their reputation at a higher-level school like UC. Say it with me one more time: THERE WILL BE CANDIDATES FOR THIS JOB.

I agree, I think Mick should stay, but I've been a fan of firing Marvin for several years now. There are always those who say it's not worth the risk and others who think we our guaranteed to find a great coach. Either way, there are so many coaching cantidates out there that it is impossible to pick out individuals ones and say "he will come here" or "he will do better".

The biggest thing Mick has going for him is that he is committed to staying here long-term. If we find another coach of Cronin's caliber, odds are that coach will only be here 2-3 years as will the next one. Like it or not we aren't in a big conference anymore and that means that we are a stepping stone program - history and tradition don't talk in the same way money does. Short-term success at a mid-major is finding an elite coach who will take you far and then leave you behind. Long-term success is finding a coach who can keep the program at a consistently high level and who is going to stay despite offers from bigger programs and of more money.

(03-21-2018 01:17 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 01:07 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  So, I'm going to bite, ONLY because I have heard this trope over and over and over again.... If we fire Tommy Tuberville, who are we going to get??? If we fire Mick/ If Mick goes to UNLV, who are we going to get??? OMG! Who would want to come to UC???

A couple of thoughts:
1) "I" don't have to "hire" anyone. So this idea that "I" have to propose a candidate in order to want a change is preposterous. I'm not the AD and I don't think Bohn is likely to call me to ask my opinion on who would fill the seat of any of the HC's. So... Not my problem.

Who said you did? I was curious if there were people other posters had in mind.

(03-21-2018 01:07 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  That being said...
2) There WILL be candidates lining up to take the job. Not "there may be candidates," there WILL be candidates. Good candidates. Yeah, OK, I get that "Chris Mack" will not be making the trip across town...Huggins is NEVER coming back...Boeheim isn't coming here. BUT THERE WILL BE NO SHORTAGE OF CANDIDATES WHO WANT THIS JOB. There will. There will be young guys chomping at the bit for their "big chance." There will be recognized, veteran names wanting a chance to rehab their careers. There will be lower-level guys who have won at their lower-levels who want to make their reputation at a higher-level school like UC. Say it with me one more time: THERE WILL BE CANDIDATES FOR THIS JOB.

No ****... I was asking if there were specific people others wanted. I've repeatedly made the point that it is idiotic to think UC can't find a quality replacement. UC is a really good job, with good history and a lot of success over the last 3 decades. I've never suggested we should keep Mick because we can't find someone else.

(03-21-2018 01:07 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  3) Mick will move...sooner or later. Nobody lives forever, nobody coaches forever. You had better wrap your mind around the fact now: there will come a day when we are hiring a new Head Basketball Coach. It might not be today...it might not be for the next decade. But it will come. So the irrational fear that "Nobody will want to coach here!" will have to be addressed sooner or later. You're going to have to get over that.

Why do I need to wrap my head around that? You're not telling me anything I'd disagree with. I don't have that fear you're talking about that nobody will coach here. I absolutely believe UC can go out and get a good coach.

(03-21-2018 01:07 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  4) Which brings us back to #1... Nobody on this board will have much to contribute to the actual job search/status. So, we're all free to our opinion with little fear that Bohn is taking us seriously. So, lighten up, Francis.

It's a board...I was interested in what other posters thought. WTF should I lighten up about?

I probably would have told you Musselman or one of the Hurley brothers. I think Dan Hurley takes the UConn job though.

Here are some other names of interest...
Chris Collins
Nate Oats
Jeff Capel
Quinn Snyder
Hubert Davis
Dane Fife
Joe Dooley

Not saying all of these guys are the answer. But I'm at least throwing out some names

(03-21-2018 01:17 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 01:07 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  So, I'm going to bite, ONLY because I have heard this trope over and over and over again.... If we fire Tommy Tuberville, who are we going to get??? If we fire Mick/ If Mick goes to UNLV, who are we going to get??? OMG! Who would want to come to UC???

A couple of thoughts:
1) "I" don't have to "hire" anyone. So this idea that "I" have to propose a candidate in order to want a change is preposterous. I'm not the AD and I don't think Bohn is likely to call me to ask my opinion on who would fill the seat of any of the HC's. So... Not my problem.

Who said you did? I was curious if there were people other posters had in mind.

(03-21-2018 01:07 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  That being said...
2) There WILL be candidates lining up to take the job. Not "there may be candidates," there WILL be candidates. Good candidates. Yeah, OK, I get that "Chris Mack" will not be making the trip across town...Huggins is NEVER coming back...Boeheim isn't coming here. BUT THERE WILL BE NO SHORTAGE OF CANDIDATES WHO WANT THIS JOB. There will. There will be young guys chomping at the bit for their "big chance." There will be recognized, veteran names wanting a chance to rehab their careers. There will be lower-level guys who have won at their lower-levels who want to make their reputation at a higher-level school like UC. Say it with me one more time: THERE WILL BE CANDIDATES FOR THIS JOB.

No ****... I was asking if there were specific people others wanted. I've repeatedly made the point that it is idiotic to think UC can't find a quality replacement. UC is a really good job, with good history and a lot of success over the last 3 decades. I've never suggested we should keep Mick because we can't find someone else.

(03-21-2018 01:07 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  3) Mick will move...sooner or later. Nobody lives forever, nobody coaches forever. You had better wrap your mind around the fact now: there will come a day when we are hiring a new Head Basketball Coach. It might not be today...it might not be for the next decade. But it will come. So the irrational fear that "Nobody will want to coach here!" will have to be addressed sooner or later. You're going to have to get over that.

Why do I need to wrap my head around that? You're not telling me anything I'd disagree with. I don't have that fear you're talking about that nobody will coach here. I absolutely believe UC can go out and get a good coach.

(03-21-2018 01:07 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  4) Which brings us back to #1... Nobody on this board will have much to contribute to the actual job search/status. So, we're all free to our opinion with little fear that Bohn is taking us seriously. So, lighten up, Francis.

It's a board...I was interested in what other posters thought. WTF should I lighten up about?

Sorry... I over-reacted. It just seems like anytime we approach the topic of a coaching change we end up with an argument that says "Well, if you want to fire 'X' then who do you want???" with an underpinning argument that assumes "Because nobody of quality would want to come here."

I'm NOT saying that I "want Mick to go." But when that day does come, I'm fairly confident that UC will have no shortage of candidates to choose from.

But the whole dynamic of "Well who do you want???" (emphasis on the sarcastic nature of the 'question'), which usually means "Shut the hell up" wears on me. A person could very well be unhappy with a coach and want a change without having to have figured out who would come next.

But again... Over-reaction on my part. Sorry.

(03-21-2018 01:27 PM)jarr Wrote:  I probably would have told you Musselman or one of the Hurley brothers. I think Dan Hurley takes the UConn job though.

Here are some other names of interest...
Chris Collins
Nate Oats
Jeff Capel
Quinn Snyder
Hubert Davis
Dane Fife
Joe Dooley

Not saying all of these guys are the answer. But I'm at least throwing out some names

Interesting list... I"m not a big Collins guy. Oats is interesting, I'd like to see a few more years from him. Not a big Capel guy. Snyder is one of the better NBA coaches right now, doubt he leaves. Hubert Davis is interesting though I'm always skeptical of guys who have never been a head coach. Dooley is a another name that seems to be on a lot of lists.

(03-21-2018 01:34 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 01:27 PM)jarr Wrote:  I probably would have told you Musselman or one of the Hurley brothers. I think Dan Hurley takes the UConn job though.

Here are some other names of interest...
Chris Collins
Nate Oats
Jeff Capel
Quinn Snyder
Hubert Davis
Dane Fife
Joe Dooley

Not saying all of these guys are the answer. But I'm at least throwing out some names

Interesting list... I"m not a big Collins guy. Oats is interesting, I'd like to see a few more years from him. Not a big Capel guy. Snyder is one of the better NBA coaches right now, doubt he leaves. Hubert Davis is interesting though I'm always skeptical of guys who have never been a head coach. Dooley is a another name that seems to be on a lot of lists.

Snyder has always been underrated and is considered a great X and O guy. I think alot ot the mess he ended up with at Mizzou was out of his control. I think he would be a very solid hire of he was available. He does a nice job with the Jazz, but he wont be able to get a team to in the West to do anything with it. Would be worth the call.

(03-21-2018 01:24 PM)skyblade Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 01:07 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 12:56 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  For the people ready to fire Mick and move on... who do you want UC to go after? Not because we lost to them, but I think Musselman is an interesting candidate for a head coaching job.

Before he got to Nevada here were the three prior seasons:
2013: 12-19
2014: 15-17
2015: 9-22

In his 3 seasons:
2016: 24-14 (won the CBI)
2017: 28-7 (12 seed in NCAAs)
2018: 29-7 (7 seed, sweet 16 and counting)

That's a big turnaround. He hasn't had a great defense, but they always score. He's had NBA head coaching experience which may help with recruiting. He has some Ohio ties as well.

So, I'm going to bite, ONLY because I have heard this trope over and over and over again.... If we fire Tommy Tuberville, who are we going to get??? If we fire Mick/ If Mick goes to UNLV, who are we going to get??? OMG! Who would want to come to UC???

That being said...
2) There WILL be candidates lining up to take the job. Not "there may be candidates," there WILL be candidates. Good candidates. Yeah, OK, I get that "Chris Mack" will not be making the trip across town...Huggins is NEVER coming back...Boeheim isn't coming here. BUT THERE WILL BE NO SHORTAGE OF CANDIDATES WHO WANT THIS JOB. There will. There will be young guys chomping at the bit for their "big chance." There will be recognized, veteran names wanting a chance to rehab their careers. There will be lower-level guys who have won at their lower-levels who want to make their reputation at a higher-level school like UC. Say it with me one more time: THERE WILL BE CANDIDATES FOR THIS JOB.

I agree, I think Mick should stay, but I've been a fan of firing Marvin for several years now. There are always those who say it's not worth the risk and others who think we our guaranteed to find a great coach. Either way, there are so many coaching cantidates out there that it is impossible to pick out individuals ones and say "he will come here" or "he will do better".

The biggest thing Mick has going for him is that he is committed to staying here long-term. If we find another coach of Cronin's caliber, odds are that coach will only be here 2-3 years as will the next one. Like it or not we aren't in a big conference anymore and that means that we are a stepping stone program - history and tradition don't talk in the same way money does. Short-term success at a mid-major is finding an elite coach who will take you far and then leave you behind. Long-term success is finding a coach who can keep the program at a consistently high level and who is going to stay despite offers from bigger programs and of more money.

This ***may*** be true... Or it may not be. It's an assumption. I would merely question that assumption (i.e. that a "successful coach" would be here only 3-5 years). A variety of coaches have stayed. for a variety of reasons, at mid-major jobs for extended tenures...even when more prominent and more profitable positions have been offered to them.

UC is not a "low-level" position...especially in basketball. It's not a true "blue blood" but it's not ham-salad either.

(03-21-2018 01:33 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  Sorry... I over-reacted. It just seems like anytime we approach the topic of a coaching change we end up with an argument that says "Well, if you want to fire 'X' then who do you want???" with an underpinning argument that assumes "Because nobody of quality would want to come here."

I'm NOT saying that I "want Mick to go." But when that day does come, I'm fairly confident that UC will have no shortage of candidates to choose from.

But the whole dynamic of "Well who do you want???" (emphasis on the sarcastic nature of the 'question'), which usually means "Shut the hell up" wears on me. A person could very well be unhappy with a coach and want a change without having to have figured out who would come next.

But again... Over-reaction on my part. Sorry.

No biggie, not sure how my post came off as a "Well who do you want?" sarcastic question. I simply asked it and even gave a guy who intrigued me as a candidate. This was the opposite of a "shut the hell up" question and was a legitimate inquiry.

I remember back after year 4 I was growing really frustrated and I wanted UC to start putting feelers out to Greg Marshall and Brad Stevens to see if there was any interest. Didn't necessarily think it was time to fire Mick, but if there was the opportunity to go get someone you really loved I was open to it. I can't think of any guys I thought were as surefire as those guys back then, but I was curious if others had people in mind.

(03-21-2018 01:07 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  1) "I" don't have to "hire" anyone. So this idea that "I" have to propose a candidate in order to want a change is preposterous. I'm not the AD and I don't think Bohn is likely to call me to ask my opinion on who would fill the seat of any of the HC's. So... Not my problem.

If you want to change coaches, it doesn't seem unreasonable to ask whether you think there's someone out there who's likely to do a better job. Because if there's not, then it would be really dumb to fire the current coach.

On the other hand, there's a point in which things are so bad or the program is too stagnant or whatever that it doesn't matter what the alternative is, it's healthier for everyone to try something else. But then the change is for reasons other than the likelihood of success.

(03-21-2018 01:39 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 01:33 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  Sorry... I over-reacted. It just seems like anytime we approach the topic of a coaching change we end up with an argument that says "Well, if you want to fire 'X' then who do you want???" with an underpinning argument that assumes "Because nobody of quality would want to come here."

I'm NOT saying that I "want Mick to go." But when that day does come, I'm fairly confident that UC will have no shortage of candidates to choose from.

But the whole dynamic of "Well who do you want???" (emphasis on the sarcastic nature of the 'question'), which usually means "Shut the hell up" wears on me. A person could very well be unhappy with a coach and want a change without having to have figured out who would come next.

But again... Over-reaction on my part. Sorry.

No biggie, not sure how my post came off as a "Well who do you want?" sarcastic question. I simply asked it and even gave a guy who intrigued me as a candidate. This was the opposite of a "shut the hell up" question and was a legitimate inquiry.

I remember back after year 4 I was growing really frustrated and I wanted UC to start putting feelers out to Greg Marshall and Brad Stevens to see if there was any interest. Didn't necessarily think it was time to fire Mick, but if there was the opportunity to go get someone you really loved I was open to it. I can't think of any guys I thought were as surefire as those guys back then, but I was curious if others had people in mind.

A couple other names:
Will Wade
Wes Miller
Randy Bennett
Frank Martin

Not saying all these are the answer, just saying their are names.

(03-21-2018 01:57 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 01:39 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-21-2018 01:33 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  Sorry... I over-reacted. It just seems like anytime we approach the topic of a coaching change we end up with an argument that says "Well, if you want to fire 'X' then who do you want???" with an underpinning argument that assumes "Because nobody of quality would want to come here."

I'm NOT saying that I "want Mick to go." But when that day does come, I'm fairly confident that UC will have no shortage of candidates to choose from.

But the whole dynamic of "Well who do you want???" (emphasis on the sarcastic nature of the 'question'), which usually means "Shut the hell up" wears on me. A person could very well be unhappy with a coach and want a change without having to have figured out who would come next.

But again... Over-reaction on my part. Sorry.

No biggie, not sure how my post came off as a "Well who do you want?" sarcastic question. I simply asked it and even gave a guy who intrigued me as a candidate. This was the opposite of a "shut the hell up" question and was a legitimate inquiry.

I remember back after year 4 I was growing really frustrated and I wanted UC to start putting feelers out to Greg Marshall and Brad Stevens to see if there was any interest. Didn't necessarily think it was time to fire Mick, but if there was the opportunity to go get someone you really loved I was open to it. I can't think of any guys I thought were as surefire as those guys back then, but I was curious if others had people in mind.

A couple other names:
Will Wade
Wes Miller
Randy Bennett
Frank Martin

Not saying all these are the answer, just saying their are names.

If you could convince me Randy Bennett could recruit at this level I'd be all in for going after him assuming Mick was gone for whatever reason.

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No biggie, not sure how my post came off as a "Well who do you want?" sarcastic question. I simply asked it and even gave a guy who intrigued me as a candidate. This was the opposite of a "shut the hell up" question and was a legitimate inquiry.

I remember back after year 4 I was growing really frustrated and I wanted UC to start putting feelers out to Greg Marshall and Brad Stevens to see if there was any interest. Didn't necessarily think it was time to fire Mick, but if there was the opportunity to go get someone you really loved I was open to it. I can't think of any guys I thought were as surefire as those guys back then, but I was curious if others had people in mind.
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This is the big issue. I think UC is a good job too. And there'd be a lot of quality candidates out there if Mick bolts.

But is there a single person, right now, that anyone here is CERTAIN would come in and replicate Mick's success. Again, there's certainly a few that I believe could do it...but I'm not putting any money down

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No biggie, not sure how my post came off as a "Well who do you want?" sarcastic question. I simply asked it and even gave a guy who intrigued me as a candidate. This was the opposite of a "shut the hell up" question and was a legitimate inquiry.

I remember back after year 4 I was growing really frustrated and I wanted UC to start putting feelers out to Greg Marshall and Brad Stevens to see if there was any interest. Didn't necessarily think it was time to fire Mick, but if there was the opportunity to go get someone you really loved I was open to it. I can't think of any guys I thought were as surefire as those guys back then, but I was curious if others had people in mind.
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This is the big issue. I think UC is a good job too. And there'd be a lot of quality candidates out there if Mick bolts.

But is there a single person, right now, that anyone here is CERTAIN would come in and replicate Mick's success. Again, there's certainly a few that I believe could do it...but I'm not putting any money down