(03-16-2018 07:56 PM)bullet Wrote:  A three conference Big 12 deal with the ESPN "owned" conferences, the SEC and ACC could be a possibility.

We know that there is lots of talk about teaming up. Don't know if it would be valuable enough to interest the Big 10 and SEC, but it could.

ESPN owns 4 conferences: ACC, AAC, Mac, SB 100% of every game/sport played for ACC
ESPN & CBS: SEC*
Fox and ESPN: Big 10, Big 12 and PAC 12
Fox owns: Big East
CBS owns: MWC**and CUSA

*CBS gets the SEC FB game of the week
**ESPN buys some tier 2 games from cbs

$364 million for the Big 12, a conference record:

https://www.diehards.com/big-12/big-12-c...ion-record

$36.5 million per school and it doesn’t include Tier 3 rights. If the LHN is considered T3, then Texas is getting over $50 million. If that’s the case, why would Texas leave the Big XII where they rule and make money to another P5 where they’re just one of the pack and make the same amount of money? It would seem as a lateral move.

Yes, the Big 12 should be imploding on that wad of cash any day now ...

If this money keeps coming in, along with the fact that UT and Oklahoma wants to keep their control over the conference, why would the Big12-2 break up.

It will all depend on the next contract. I am sure the networks will be expecting an extension of the GOR and have not seen this.

(06-02-2018 04:24 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  If this money keeps coming in, along with the fact that UT and Oklahoma wants to keep their control over the conference, why would the Big12-2 break up.

It will all depend on the next contract. I am sure the networks will be expecting an extension of the GOR and have not seen this.

The extension of the GOR will come with the new TV contract.

If the money is right.

This is one of the reasons I wont be surprised at all if both Texas and Oklahoma go absolutely nowhere at the end of the current GOR. Splitting the pie 10 ways is a very effective way of offsetting their slightly smaller population footprint. BUT---dont be surprised if the next CFP agreement disperses earnings based on the number of schools in a conference. I think the other P5's are going to catch onto this ploy. Since these other P5's arent going to kick anyone out---they will take a look at how CFP distributions are done to make the math more equitable for larger conferences.

(06-03-2018 09:25 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  This is one of the reasons I wont be surprised at all if both Texas and Oklahoma go absolutely nowhere at the end of the current GOR. Splitting the pie 10 ways is a very effective way of offsetting their slightly smaller population footprint. BUT---dont be surprised if the next CFP agreement disperses earnings based on the number of schools in a conference. I think the other P5's are going to catch onto this ploy. Since these other P5's arent going to kick anyone out---they will take a look at how CFP distributions are done to make the math more equitable for larger conferences.

Thereby encouraging the Big 12 to invite 2 out of BYU, UH and Cincinnati?

(06-03-2018 09:36 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-03-2018 09:25 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  This is one of the reasons I wont be surprised at all if both Texas and Oklahoma go absolutely nowhere at the end of the current GOR. Splitting the pie 10 ways is a very effective way of offsetting their slightly smaller population footprint. BUT---dont be surprised if the next CFP agreement disperses earnings based on the number of schools in a conference. I think the other P5's are going to catch onto this ploy. Since these other P5's arent going to kick anyone out---they will take a look at how CFP distributions are done to make the math more equitable for larger conferences.

Thereby encouraging the Big 12 to invite 2 out of BYU, UH and Cincinnati?

1. I see no problem with that
2. If other conferences don't want to share, just lock in the number of Big XII teams the CFP would pay for.

(06-03-2018 09:25 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  This is one of the reasons I wont be surprised at all if both Texas and Oklahoma go absolutely nowhere at the end of the current GOR. Splitting the pie 10 ways is a very effective way of offsetting their slightly smaller population footprint. BUT---dont be surprised if the next CFP agreement disperses earnings based on the number of schools in a conference. I think the other P5's are going to catch onto this ploy. Since these other P5's arent going to kick anyone out---they will take a look at how CFP distributions are done to make the math more equitable for larger conferences.

I don't see any reason to think that would happen. It never has before, e.g. during the BCS era there were differences in conference size and pay was to the conference not based on number of schools, and ditto six years ago when the CFP was negotiated.

This isn't some deep hidden situation that has just come to light or something.

(06-03-2018 09:36 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-03-2018 09:25 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  This is one of the reasons I wont be surprised at all if both Texas and Oklahoma go absolutely nowhere at the end of the current GOR. Splitting the pie 10 ways is a very effective way of offsetting their slightly smaller population footprint. BUT---dont be surprised if the next CFP agreement disperses earnings based on the number of schools in a conference. I think the other P5's are going to catch onto this ploy. Since these other P5's arent going to kick anyone out---they will take a look at how CFP distributions are done to make the math more equitable for larger conferences.

Thereby encouraging the Big 12 to invite 2 out of BYU, UH and Cincinnati?

No. E.g. Imagine if the new deal specifies a payout of $5m per P5 school. There would be no incentive for the B12 to add two teams because that would not improve the payout to the 10 existing schools.

Might even reduce it slightly because the entire pot will now likely be divided 67 ways not 65 ways.