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RE: Stephen Hawking dies
(03-14-2018 12:30 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (03-14-2018 12:10 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: (03-14-2018 12:02 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (03-13-2018 11:53 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: (03-13-2018 11:45 PM)Niner National Wrote: He's dead. He doesn't feel any way right now.
I'm fully aware there are people who believe you blink into nothingness the moment your body dies, and all your life experiences, thoughts, dreams and entire conscious existence all vanish into nothingness forever.
I'm not one of them.
Really, if you only commented on it to preach AT him after he's dead, you're doing it wrong. He was an atheist. And presumably died an atheist. You can get your rocks off thinking of whatever you think is God's judgement is for him if you'd like. But its a really bad look.
You really are a twisted & sick little puppy, tom. God bless your heart.
I feel tremendous sympathy for the man, and am very saddened by his passing. It also concerns me deeply because he was a very influential man in his life and appeared to not know His Savior and Creator.
I can only hope that changed at the end, as I hope it does for you as well my friend. With all my heart I hope and pray you find salvation through Christ before you breathe your last.
Spare me. I don't think you're praying for me or Stephen, but AT us. There's a big difference.
That's your reflection of your own hatred. That's not what Eric was doing.
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RE: Stephen Hawking dies
I always found it funny when he made appearances on shows like The Big Bang Theory. He obviously had a sense of humor. And as others pointed out, it's pretty good that he managed to stick around as long as he did.
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RE: Stephen Hawking dies
(03-14-2018 10:04 AM)bullet Wrote: (03-14-2018 12:30 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (03-14-2018 12:10 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: (03-14-2018 12:02 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (03-13-2018 11:53 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: I'm fully aware there are people who believe you blink into nothingness the moment your body dies, and all your life experiences, thoughts, dreams and entire conscious existence all vanish into nothingness forever.
I'm not one of them.
Really, if you only commented on it to preach AT him after he's dead, you're doing it wrong. He was an atheist. And presumably died an atheist. You can get your rocks off thinking of whatever you think is God's judgement is for him if you'd like. But its a really bad look.
You really are a twisted & sick little puppy, tom. God bless your heart.
I feel tremendous sympathy for the man, and am very saddened by his passing. It also concerns me deeply because he was a very influential man in his life and appeared to not know His Savior and Creator.
I can only hope that changed at the end, as I hope it does for you as well my friend. With all my heart I hope and pray you find salvation through Christ before you breathe your last.
Spare me. I don't think you're praying for me or Stephen, but AT us. There's a big difference.
That's your reflection of your own hatred. That's not what Eric was doing.
Statement's like Eric's really appear to be coming from a place of 'I'm right, you're not" on religion. I don't feel he's doing it to share God, but to preach AT us, IMHO. He doesn't know my religion and he will never know it. Because there's no point of discussing religion with someone who doesn't appear to accept any answer other than his own.
There's a difference between saying "God Bless You", that usually is a well intentioned sentiment, and telling people "you better agree with me...or else fire and brimstone, baby".
Had he said "May God bless him, his memory, and those who grieve for his loss", then that would be a well considered response. To attempt to turn it into some sort of thinly veiled attack on the decedent and his beliefs on the day he dies strikes me as something inappropriate.
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RE: Stephen Hawking dies
Quote:At one Royal Society meeting, the still-unknown Hawking interrupted a lecture by renowned astrophysicist Sir Fred Hoyle, then at the pinnacle of his career, to inform him that he had made a mistake.
An irritated Sir Fred asked how Hawking presumed to know that his calculations were wrong. Hawking replied: 'Because I've worked them out in my head.'
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RE: Stephen Hawking dies
(03-14-2018 12:02 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (03-13-2018 11:53 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: (03-13-2018 11:45 PM)Niner National Wrote: (03-13-2018 11:27 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: (03-13-2018 11:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: A brilliant mind. A life well lived.
I wonder if he feels that way right now? These are his first hours in eternity.
I pray he had a deathbed acceptance of Christ as his Savior.
He's dead. He doesn't feel any way right now.
I'm fully aware there are people who believe you blink into nothingness the moment your body dies, and all your life experiences, thoughts, dreams and entire conscious existence all vanish into nothingness forever.
I'm not one of them.
Really, if you only commented on it to preach AT him after he's dead, you're doing it wrong. He was an atheist. And presumably died an atheist. You can get your rocks off thinking of whatever you think is God's judgement is for him if you'd like. But its a really bad look.
A bad look to some. However, there may be those who, at times like these, contemplate the possibilities of the after-life.
If you were a doctor and discovered your patient had cancer, would you tell him? Would you tell him the unpleasant news knowing it would cause emotional pain and distress not only for him but his family?
Wouldn't it be easier and more compassionate to forego telling him and let him carry on his merry way?
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RE: Stephen Hawking dies
(03-14-2018 12:36 PM)umbluegray Wrote: (03-14-2018 12:02 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (03-13-2018 11:53 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: (03-13-2018 11:45 PM)Niner National Wrote: (03-13-2018 11:27 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: I wonder if he feels that way right now? These are his first hours in eternity.
I pray he had a deathbed acceptance of Christ as his Savior.
He's dead. He doesn't feel any way right now.
I'm fully aware there are people who believe you blink into nothingness the moment your body dies, and all your life experiences, thoughts, dreams and entire conscious existence all vanish into nothingness forever.
I'm not one of them.
Really, if you only commented on it to preach AT him after he's dead, you're doing it wrong. He was an atheist. And presumably died an atheist. You can get your rocks off thinking of whatever you think is God's judgement is for him if you'd like. But its a really bad look.
A bad look to some. However, there may be those who, at times like these, contemplate the possibilities of the after-life.
If you were a doctor and discovered your patient had cancer, would you tell him? Would you tell him the unpleasant news knowing it would cause emotional pain and distress not only for him but his family?
Wouldn't it be easier and more compassionate to forego telling him and let him carry on his merry way?
Don't conflate science with religion. Your religion is your opinion. It isn't appropriate to use threats as a recruiting tool.
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03-14-2018 12:44 PM |
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RE: Stephen Hawking dies
(03-14-2018 12:44 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (03-14-2018 12:36 PM)umbluegray Wrote: (03-14-2018 12:02 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (03-13-2018 11:53 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: (03-13-2018 11:45 PM)Niner National Wrote: He's dead. He doesn't feel any way right now.
I'm fully aware there are people who believe you blink into nothingness the moment your body dies, and all your life experiences, thoughts, dreams and entire conscious existence all vanish into nothingness forever.
I'm not one of them.
Really, if you only commented on it to preach AT him after he's dead, you're doing it wrong. He was an atheist. And presumably died an atheist. You can get your rocks off thinking of whatever you think is God's judgement is for him if you'd like. But its a really bad look.
A bad look to some. However, there may be those who, at times like these, contemplate the possibilities of the after-life.
If you were a doctor and discovered your patient had cancer, would you tell him? Would you tell him the unpleasant news knowing it would cause emotional pain and distress not only for him but his family?
Wouldn't it be easier and more compassionate to forego telling him and let him carry on his merry way?
Don't conflate science with religion. Your religion is your opinion. It isn't appropriate to use threats as a recruiting tool.
Do you conflate science with religion? How many genders are there?
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RE: Stephen Hawking dies
(03-14-2018 12:44 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (03-14-2018 12:36 PM)umbluegray Wrote: (03-14-2018 12:02 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (03-13-2018 11:53 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: (03-13-2018 11:45 PM)Niner National Wrote: He's dead. He doesn't feel any way right now.
I'm fully aware there are people who believe you blink into nothingness the moment your body dies, and all your life experiences, thoughts, dreams and entire conscious existence all vanish into nothingness forever.
I'm not one of them.
Really, if you only commented on it to preach AT him after he's dead, you're doing it wrong. He was an atheist. And presumably died an atheist. You can get your rocks off thinking of whatever you think is God's judgement is for him if you'd like. But its a really bad look.
A bad look to some. However, there may be those who, at times like these, contemplate the possibilities of the after-life.
If you were a doctor and discovered your patient had cancer, would you tell him? Would you tell him the unpleasant news knowing it would cause emotional pain and distress not only for him but his family?
Wouldn't it be easier and more compassionate to forego telling him and let him carry on his merry way?
Don't conflate science with religion. Your religion is your opinion. It isn't appropriate to use threats as a recruiting tool.
The religion I follow is not my opinion. It is external to me. It existed before me and will exist after me.
Science is a subset of knowledge. There is knowledge beyond science. I hope you don't disregard knowledge not "provable" by the scientific method. If so, you would be disregarding the basis for science and thus science itself.
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RE: Stephen Hawking dies
(03-13-2018 11:47 PM)fsquid Wrote:
I love the idea that some random dude signed up for Twitter, chose God as his handle, and claimed the Mantle of Heaven for himself to dispense wisdom and snark.
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RE: Stephen Hawking dies
(03-14-2018 01:11 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote: (03-13-2018 11:47 PM)fsquid Wrote:
I love the idea that some random dude signed up for Twitter, chose God as his handle, and claimed the Mantle of Heaven for himself to dispense wisdom and snark.
OK, wait... can you prove that's some random dude?
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RE: Stephen Hawking dies
(03-14-2018 01:26 PM)umbluegray Wrote: (03-14-2018 01:11 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote: [quote='fsquid' pid='15170909' dateline='1521002870']
I love the idea that some random dude signed up for Twitter, chose God as his handle, and claimed the Mantle of Heaven for himself to dispense wisdom and snark.
OK, wait... can you prove that's some random dude?
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RE: Stephen Hawking dies
(03-14-2018 12:36 PM)umbluegray Wrote: (03-14-2018 12:02 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: (03-13-2018 11:53 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: (03-13-2018 11:45 PM)Niner National Wrote: (03-13-2018 11:27 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: I wonder if he feels that way right now? These are his first hours in eternity.
I pray he had a deathbed acceptance of Christ as his Savior.
He's dead. He doesn't feel any way right now.
I'm fully aware there are people who believe you blink into nothingness the moment your body dies, and all your life experiences, thoughts, dreams and entire conscious existence all vanish into nothingness forever.
I'm not one of them.
Really, if you only commented on it to preach AT him after he's dead, you're doing it wrong. He was an atheist. And presumably died an atheist. You can get your rocks off thinking of whatever you think is God's judgement is for him if you'd like. But its a really bad look.
A bad look to some. However, there may be those who, at times like these, contemplate the possibilities of the after-life.
If you were a doctor and discovered your patient had cancer, would you tell him? Would you tell him the unpleasant news knowing it would cause emotional pain and distress not only for him but his family?
Wouldn't it be easier and more compassionate to forego telling him and let him carry on his merry way?
Not much point in arguing with Tom on this imo.
If he wants to believe people hoping he or Stephen Hawking find salvation through Christ before they die is actually somehow hateful and evil, then he will just have to feel that way. Let him twist it completely around and call it hate if it makes him feel better.
I'm certainly not going to stop hoping & praying so with all my heart.
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RE: Stephen Hawking dies
(03-14-2018 12:10 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: I feel tremendous sympathy for the man, and am very saddened by his passing. It also concerns me deeply because he was a very influential man in his life and appeared to not know His Savior and Creator.
I can only hope that changed at the end...
Agree eric. I often wonder how a scientist can't believe in a Creator God when they study, evaluate and discover the truly amazing, wonderful and unending complexities spanning from the universe to the micro-verse. As we discover and try to explain the world around us, more questions come forth with no answers. The idea that all of the known and the unknown in creation just came randomly is so foreign to me. Maybe to put it another way, it often seems there is a hard line between science and creation and I see where you can have both. The scientific method of research and discovery (the process) can operate independently and concurrently of the belief in a Creator God.
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RE: Stephen Hawking dies
He may have been a brilliant mind, but something was definitely off there in his last years making statements about mankind had 200 years to find another planet to colonize or die because the earth,
would be struck by a meteor or,
be destroyed by global warming or,
Artificial Intelligence robots would take over either killing everyone (Terminator) or making us pets (Twilight Zone).
Those weren't his only apocalyptic statements, but certainly were enough to bring in to question a lot of his more recent "scientific findings".
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RE: Stephen Hawking dies
(03-14-2018 01:11 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote: (03-13-2018 11:47 PM)fsquid Wrote:
I love the idea that some random dude signed up for Twitter, chose God as his handle, and claimed the Mantle of Heaven for himself to dispense wisdom and snark.
It's a humor account. Kind like how people create fake"enter coach or celebrity" handles
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RE: Stephen Hawking dies
Si Fi Channel paid tribute all day yesterday with a marathon of Futurerama episodes. He appeared on several episodes and on some video games.
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RE: Stephen Hawking dies
(03-14-2018 06:02 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote: He may have been a brilliant mind, but something was definitely off there in his last years making statements about mankind had 200 years to find another planet to colonize or die because the earth,
would be struck by a meteor or,
be destroyed by global warming or,
Artificial Intelligence robots would take over either killing everyone (Terminator) or making us pets (Twilight Zone).
Those weren't his only apocalyptic statements, but certainly were enough to bring in to question a lot of his more recent "scientific findings".
The odds of our species surviving greatly increases once we establish ourselves as a multiplanetary species. And I think there's some validity to his warnings. Those who believe the singularity is right around the corner should be concerned about the rise of AI.
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